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#1 Lucifer007
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TOPIC???
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#2 Lucifer007
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We all know htis is the futre but is it really as good as people say it is. You cant rent games, you need a credit card for everything, and if something ahppend to the consoles so companies might have you buy the ame all over agin.  TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK
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I think they will always have a disc option, like with Warhawk
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#4 drewtwo99
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I love digital distribution. That's how I bought Half-Life 2 and Command and Conquer 3... so convenient.
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There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.
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Hard media is on its way out. Internet speeds are increasing rapidly and soon we will only need large HDD's.

I heart Steam.
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#7 Lucifer007
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 [QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]I think they will always hayve a disc option, like with Warhawk[/QUOTE}

mabe for a couple years than software peole wll stopp lossing money to stores adn shipoping, and packing and just make everything download on consolea andpcs whenbroadband speeds get higher 

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Hard media is on its way out. Internet speeds are increasing rapidly and soon we will only need large HDD's.

I heart Steam.
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The only way Digital Distribution would stay is if we were allowed to make a backup hardcopy; which I don't see happening since everyone is all about 'intellectual property.'  Therefore, physical distribution is the way to go.
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There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.limpbizkit818
Five days what fgame can yu beat in fivedays and be done with tahts worth hte time. You need a credit card to buy microsoft points and Im not talking about the prepaid acard
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The only way Digital Distribution would stay is if we were allowed to make a backup hardcopy; which I don't see happening since everyone is all about 'intellectual property.' Therefore, physical distribution is the way to go.DementedDragon


I can make hardcopies of all the Steam games I have... >_>
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The only way Digital Distribution would stay is if we were allowed to make a backup hardcopy; which I don't see happening since everyone is all about 'intellectual property.' Therefore, physical distribution is the way to go.DementedDragon
But why do you need a backup hard copy?
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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.Lucifer007
Five days what fgame can yu beat in fivedays and be done with tahts worth hte time. You need a credit card to buy microsoft points and Im not talking about the prepaid acard

Debit cards can be used just as easily.
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[QUOTE="DementedDragon"]The only way Digital Distribution would stay is if we were allowed to make a backup hardcopy; which I don't see happening since everyone is all about 'intellectual property.' Therefore, physical distribution is the way to go.limpbizkit818

But why do you need a backup hard copy?

 

There is NO need for a backup copy. If you ever need the game again, just download it again. It's that easy. 

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But why do you need a backup hard copy?limpbizkit818

In case something bad happens to the system.

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The only way Digital Distribution would stay is if we were allowed to make a backup hardcopy; which I don't see happening since everyone is all about 'intellectual property.' Therefore, physical distribution is the way to go.DementedDragon
no I guess they willlet you download it agian like XBL and yuo need a pasword or a account thats login to use the program
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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.Lucifer007
Five days what fgame can yu beat in fivedays and be done with tahts worth hte time. You need a credit card to buy microsoft points and Im not talking about the prepaid acard

You get 5 days when you rent a game from blockbuster. It would be the same thing. And why not talk about prepaid cards? I downloaded the Oblivion expansion pack without a credit card.
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There is NO need for a backup copy. If you ever need the game again, just download it again. It's that easy. drewtwo99

Well if you purchased the game, they would need to provide a product key or something so you can provide proof of purchase in case something happens.

Or are you talking about renting games?

 

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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]But why do you need a backup hard copy?DementedDragon

In case something bad happens to the system.

Why not just download it again? It will be like XBL, your download history is always backed up. I am sure Steam has something like this too.
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[QUOTE="Lucifer007"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.drewtwo99
Five days what fgame can yu beat in fivedays and be done with tahts worth hte time. You need a credit card to buy microsoft points and Im not talking about the prepaid acard



Debit cards can be used just as easily.

Ok and what happens if your under 18 and cant et a debit card 

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#21 goblaa
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With HD content availabel why would I ever buy a blu-ray plyer or an HD-DVD player? I can just download everything.
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#22 Panzer_Zwei
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But the physical form is so beautiful...
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#23 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="drewtwo99"] There is NO need for a backup copy. If you ever need the game again, just download it again. It's that easy. DementedDragon

Well if you purchased the game, they would need to provide a product key or something so you can provide proof of purchase in case something happens.

Or are you talking about renting games?

Why would you need a product key? They have your account information stored, including order history. I imagine they'll implement something like iTunes (you can have this game active on only five PCs at a time), but nothing more than that.
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[QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.Lucifer007

Five days what fgame can yu beat in fivedays and be done with tahts worth hte time. You need a credit card to buy microsoft points and Im not talking about the prepaid acard



Debit cards can be used just as easily.

Ok and what happens if your under 18 and cant et a debit card

Then you get a prepaid card (if the system allows) or, like every other minor, ask mommy and daddy for $$$.
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Ok and what happens if your under 18 and cant et a debit card

Lucifer007



Hahaha, then this won't be a concern for you by the time digital distribution becomes the standard anyway.

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Ok and what happens if your under 18 and cant et a debit card Lucifer007


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#27 Lucifer007
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But the physical form is so beautiful...Panzer_Zwei
yeah beautifully breakable
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[QUOTE="Lucifer007"]

[QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.mjarantilla

Five days what fgame can yu beat in fivedays and be done with tahts worth hte time. You need a credit card to buy microsoft points and Im not talking about the prepaid acard



Debit cards can be used just as easily.

Ok and what happens if your under 18 and cant et a debit card


Then you get a prepaid card (if the system allows) or, like every other minor, ask mommy and daddy for $$$.

That and many banks offer special accounts for kids. They get debit/check cards and everything. 

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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]But the physical form is so beautiful...Lucifer007
yeah beautifully breakable

I've never broken a single game in my 24 years I've been gaming.
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Why would you need a product key? They have your account information stored, including order history. I imagine they'll implement something like iTunes (you can have this game active on only five PCs at a time), but nothing more than that.mjarantilla

Well as long as they have stored information of the consumers purchase of the product; I suppose digital distribution is a great idea, but I would still prefer a physical copy.  ^_^

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#31 Lucifer007
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"]

[QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.goblaa

Five days what fgame can yu beat in fivedays and be done with tahts worth hte time. You need a credit card to buy microsoft points and Im not talking about the prepaid acard



Debit cards can be used just as easily.

Ok and what happens if your under 18 and cant et a debit card


Then you get a prepaid card (if the system allows) or, like every other minor, ask mommy and daddy for $$$.

That and many banks offer special accounts for kids. They get debit/check cards and everything.

Yeah but most parents like mine would find doing all that bank stuff to much just so their kid can play some games and not sign that form 

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[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"]

[QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.Lucifer007

Five days what fgame can yu beat in fivedays and be done with tahts worth hte time. You need a credit card to buy microsoft points and Im not talking about the prepaid acard



Debit cards can be used just as easily.

Ok and what happens if your under 18 and cant et a debit card


Then you get a prepaid card (if the system allows) or, like every other minor, ask mommy and daddy for $$$.

That and many banks offer special accounts for kids. They get debit/check cards and everything.

Yeah but most parents like mine would find doing all that bank stuff to much just so their kid can play some games and not sign that form

They wouldn't do it JUST for this. Good God, talk about grasping for straws. If I were a parent, I would set up this kind of bank account for more important expenses to teach my kid some independence.
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but I would still prefer a physical copy. ^_^

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Same, packaging has been an important part of games. I feel gaming would die a little if it went full digital distribution. I really wouldn't keep buying games.
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Well, it's quickly taking over pcgaming, but for consoles i don't think it will happen that fast or if everit will overtake retail
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[QUOTE="Lucifer007"][QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"]

[QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.mjarantilla

Five days what fgame can yu beat in fivedays and be done with tahts worth hte time. You need a credit card to buy microsoft points and Im not talking about the prepaid acard



Debit cards can be used just as easily.

Ok and what happens if your under 18 and cant et a debit card


Then you get a prepaid card (if the system allows) or, like every other minor, ask mommy and daddy for $$$.

That and many banks offer special accounts for kids. They get debit/check cards and everything.

Yeah but most parents like mine would find doing all that bank stuff to much just so their kid can play some games and not sign that form


They wouldn't do it JUST for this. Good God, talk about grasping for straws. If I were a parent, I would set up this kind of bank account for more important expenses to teach my kid some independence.

Im not a parent im 16 and I know most kids dont use bank accounts I knwo plenty with evne my self I keep all my money in my wallet or hiding spot because going to the bank and needing a riding and all the sgnatures is just to much to go through unless your over 18 and have a ride 

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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"][QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"]

[QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="Lucifer007"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]There is no down side to it, and I want it now sooner then later. Also you do not need a credit card, look at Microsoft Points. Again with XBL you never need to pay for something twice. Also, why cant you rent games? Pay $5 and you get the download for a five days.Lucifer007

Five days what fgame can yu beat in fivedays and be done with tahts worth hte time. You need a credit card to buy microsoft points and Im not talking about the prepaid acard



Debit cards can be used just as easily.

Ok and what happens if your under 18 and cant et a debit card


Then you get a prepaid card (if the system allows) or, like every other minor, ask mommy and daddy for $$$.

That and many banks offer special accounts for kids. They get debit/check cards and everything.

Yeah but most parents like mine would find doing all that bank stuff to much just so their kid can play some games and not sign that form


They wouldn't do it JUST for this. Good God, talk about grasping for straws. If I were a parent, I would set up this kind of bank account for more important expenses to teach my kid some independence.

Im not a parent im 16 and I know most kids dont use bank accounts I knwo plenty with evne my self I keep all my money in my wallet or hiding spot because going to the bank and needing a riding and all the sgnatures is just to much to go through unless your over 18 and have a ride

......... Ok, stop talking now. I'm saving you from yourself. Just stop talking.
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#37 Lucifer007
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whatever

 

 

 

Ok so since games are tkaing up more space on a disc will internet speeds catch up so I dont have to leacve my systme on for several hours 

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whatever

Ok so since games are tkaing up more space on a disc will internet speeds catch up so I dont have to leacve my systme on for several hours

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Well look at what the new 360 update is going to do: you will be able to put the system is to a low power mode while it downloads and when it is done the system shuts off. No worries.
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#39 limpbizkit818
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[QUOTE="DementedDragon"]

but I would still prefer a physical copy. ^_^

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Same, packaging has been an important part of games. I feel gaming would die a little if it went full digital distribution. I really wouldn't keep buying games.

I failed to see how it makes a difference. I enjoyed Shivering Isles just as much by downloading as I would if it was on a disk. Why would it stop you from buying a game? If anything its more convenient having every game in one spot, right on the HDD.
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#40 Lucifer007
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how do you know whta the new update does
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1st the net speeds arent increasing that fast...A 30gb movie will take at least a month to download on the average 1mbps line...
2nd The lines double in speed every 1.5-2 years so it will take at least 5 years to get 10mbps in homes...
3rd the download limits will make sure that this will never work...
4th the hdd space will have to get much cheaper...if the 120gb hdd for the new 360 costs 180$ its not helping...
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how do you know whta the new update doesLucifer007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwd00FGpKrU
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It'll happen in a few generations maybe. The bigger question is what will happen to the game stores that sell the physical copies of games right now. I could see maybe some adapting into just smaller stores based around selling game-related merchandise like shirts and stuffed toys etc. but most would just die off.
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#44 limpbizkit818
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1st the net speeds arent increasing that fast...A 30gb movie will take at least a month to download on the average 1mbps line...
2nd The lines double in speed every 1.5-2 years so it will take at least 5 years to get 10mbps in homes...
3rd the download limits will make sure that this will never work...
4th the hdd space will have to get much cheaper...if the 120gb hdd for the new 360 costs 180$ its not helping...True_Gamer_
We already have over 10MBS in homes (Fios). 720p movies are far from 30 Gb.
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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="DementedDragon"]

but I would still prefer a physical copy. ^_^

limpbizkit818
Same, packaging has been an important part of games. I feel gaming would die a little if it went full digital distribution. I really wouldn't keep buying games.

I failed to see how it makes a difference. I enjoyed Shivering Isles just as much by downloading as I would if it was on a disk. Why would it stop you from buying a game? If anything its more convenient having every game in one spot, right on the HDD.

Call me antiquated, but I'd stick with physical form. I enjoy the cover, the box, the manual, it's just not the same on a monitor or tv screen. Maybe on the PC side it's not a big issue since they've always lacked in that aspect compared to the Japanese.
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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="DementedDragon"]

but I would still prefer a physical copy. ^_^

Panzer_Zwei

Same, packaging has been an important part of games. I feel gaming would die a little if it went full digital distribution. I really wouldn't keep buying games.


I failed to see how it makes a difference. I enjoyed Shivering Isles just as much by downloading as I would if it was on a disk. Why would it stop you from buying a game? If anything its more convenient having every game in one spot, right on the HDD.

Call me antiquated, but I'd stick with physical form. I enjoy the cover, the box, the manual, it's just not the same on a monitor or tv screen. Maybe on the PC side it's not a big issue since they've always lacked in that aspect compared to the Japanese.

You either have started gaming a year ago or you have never seen PC game box 

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#47 jellomeister24
Member since 2003 • 1321 Posts
"digital distribution" is my primary way of acquiring games right now!! im WAAAY past the disc generation, even on my consoles... (PS2 hard drive IS extremely useful, contrary to popular beilef. :))