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#1 AA7
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Can Any Shooter Stand Up To Halo 3?

With other high profile games on the way like Haze, Killzone 2, The Darkness, and Crysis, does anyone believe that any of these games can compete with the 10005080 tone freight train that is Halo 3?

Although some of these games promise to be excellent and look like they will deliver, does the hype of Halo 3 alone outweigh any chance that they have to be successful, because we all know that Halo 3 would sell even if Bungie just shoved some dog crap in the box and told you to throw it at your parents.

Personally I don't think that any game, regardless of its pedigree or its outcome, can or will stand up to Halo 3, that's not to say that Halo 3 will be a better game than any of these other games, that is simply based on the ridiculous amounts of Hype and fan love that surround this series.


What do you think?

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#2 DDX2
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in my book, there are already tons of FPS's better than halo 2....err 3, sry
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#3 ShmenonPie
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I think that unfortunately, you're probably right, even though every other shooter that's come out in the past 10 years has already owned the whole Halo franchise combined. Halo 3 will be a dreadful game that will sadly sell well.
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#4 TheCrazed420
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If you're talking sales, than no. Though UT3 releasing on 3 platforms instead of one might do well. I think as a game, Crysis or Bioshockwill be the better title.They just seem to bebringing a lot more new things to the genre.
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#5 TekkenMaster606
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Episode 2 is going to be godly...

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#6 Verge_6
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Sales-wise? Nope. Quality-wise? I can name a few now that are arguably better.
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#7 DDX2
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Episode 2 is going to be godly...

TekkenMaster606

agreed

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#8 MyLargefeet
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Another weak bait to fuel the flame. Sorry but seriously, you need to play more FPS before saying that Halo is the greatest game ever made. This is what I hate about Halo fanboys even though I don't mind the franchise. They have attitude that Halo is the greatest game ever made and that no other FPS can stand up to it, which makes me hate the franchise just to offset all the snobby fanboy hype despite the fact that it is not a bad game.
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#9 turgore
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UT3 if it will be anyhting like UT2004 it will crush halo .
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#10 TheCrazed420
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Episode 2 is going to be godly...

TekkenMaster606

True, but it will still only be an episode, and not a full title. Though Portal and TF2 will make it a lot more worth it, I'm sure. :)

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#11 turgore
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Episode 2 is going to be godly...

DDX2

agreed

6 hours long.

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#12 Elviathan
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Are you talking about sales wise? If you are then Halo 3 will probably be the best selling shooter this year. But if you're talking about FPS that come out this year and are better then I would have to say yes. There are a lot of FPS that are coming out this year that will probably be better than Halo 3.
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#13 kingsy_the_one
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Sales-wise, better game or not, nothing will beat Halo 3..
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[QUOTE="DDX2"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Episode 2 is going to be godly...

turgore

agreed

6 hours long.

Max Payne was one of the shortest games ever but it's probably one of the greatest shooters of all time. Valve is packing in a lot of extra content with EP2 to make it very worthwhile.

Can't wait to preload on Steam.

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#15 skrat_01
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Crysis, UT3, HL2 ep2, Bioshock.

There.

Halo 3 may be a frieght train - but frieght trains are bloody hard to control, and are prone to derailment.

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#16 SpaceDragonMan
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UT3 if it will be anyhting like UT2004 it will crush halo .turgore

UT3 will crush Halo 3 in every single aspect, expect sales, scores and popularity...

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#17 Verge_6
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Crysis, UT3, HL2 ep2, Bioshock.

There.

Halo 3 may be a frieght train - but frieght trains are bloody hard to control, and are prone to derailment.

skrat_01

Very good.

And hail, fellow Kerberos fan. :P

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#19 -The-G-Man-
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Sales-wise, Halo 3 will probably beat out everyone else. Game-wise, I really don't think Halo 3 is as great a game as some make it out to be; it's just okay, and there were other, better shooters out there and there look to be more other, better shooters coming.
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#20 dieasgrey
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The Halo series is way overrated. Just a cut and paste job of the Tribe Series and Unreal Tournament.

the Jedi Knight series, Half-Life Series , Unreal Tournament Series and Battlefield series are all better .

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[QUOTE="DDX2"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Episode 2 is going to be godly...

turgore

agreed

6 hours long.

+TF2.....

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#22 Deihmos
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UT3 if it will be anyhting like UT2004 it will crush halo .turgore

If UT3 is anything like UT2004 i will hate it. all the mindelss jumping around like you were on crackgot boring fast.

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#23 gameruk2010
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For the 1938474th time. HALF-LIFE 2
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#24 The_Game21x
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On the console side of things, nope. Not a chance.

There's a reason all the next best things (Your Resistances and Killzones) are all billed as "Halo killers". Halo as a series is an unstoppable juggernaut that has yet to be topped in any form on consoles.Halo set the bar so high that most games can't even see it, let alone hope to step above it.

If you bring PC shooters into the mix, well, possibly. I don't really keep tabs on PC shooters so I can't vouch for them.

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#25 onewiththegame
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The Halo series is way overrated. Just a cut and paste job of the Tribe Series and Unreal Tournament.

the Jedi Knight series, Half-Life Series , Unreal Tournament Series and Battlefield series are all better .

dieasgrey

link?

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#26 Kiron22
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[QUOTE="turgore"]UT3 if it will be anyhting like UT2004 it will crush halo .Deihmos

If UT3 is anything like UT2004 i will hate it. all the mindelss jumping around like you were on crackgot boring fast.

dude, halo is nothing but UT lite

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#27 C-May-AB
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Halo 3 may be one of the greatest shooters come to man kind

but i wasnt to pleased with halo 2, it was way too short and there wasnt a lot of change between the two halos so far... there better be some better vehicles or weapons otherwise it will just be the same as the other ones, besides the mapping and such, if they have some amazing maps it could turn out better, like the halo 1 and halo 2 maps were getting kind of bored as you play then like 10 million times,

...i am glad that they're bringing back the assault rifle it's way better than the smg's

the games were great and all, just wasnt what i thought i was going to live up to, now all this mumbo jumbo coming about halo 3, it may also not live up to the expectation i thought i could, but i could also

i still think resistance is greater than any of the 360 FPS out there so far

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#28 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Crysis, UT3, HL2 ep2, Bioshock.

There.

Halo 3 may be a frieght train - but frieght trains are bloody hard to control, and are prone to derailment.

Verge_6

Very good.

And hail, fellow Kerberos fan. :P

Haha! Quite the observation!

Very nice sig you have there :D

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#29 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="turgore"][QUOTE="DDX2"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Episode 2 is going to be godly...

omgimba

agreed

6 hours long.

+TF2.....

+ PORTAL :P

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#30 TekkenMaster606
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The charts for 2007 will have these games at the top.

1. Grand Theft Auto IV

2. World of Warcraft : Burning Crusade

3. Something Pokemon

4. Madden

5. Halo 3

Guess what, Madden will be at the top. The other 4 can fight for #2.

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#31 gingerdivid
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Almost any recent acclaimed PC shooter can.
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#32 Episode_Eve
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Umm....Has anyone seen a couple of games called "Call of Duty 4" & "Crysis"? Right now, they're looking better than Halo 3 in terms of gameplay and visuals. But unfortuneately won't sell as much :(. Even Haze looks to be a real competitor. And we'll have to wait on Killzone to see.
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#33 Episode_Eve
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And with UT3 coming this year...H3 really does have ALOT of critical competition.
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CoD4, this game looks amazing and realistic shooters are sooo much fun.
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#35 Ninja-Vox
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I think that unfortunately, you're probably right, even though every other shooter that's come out in the past 10 years has already owned the whole Halo franchise combined. Halo 3 will be a dreadful game that will sadly sell well.ShmenonPie

You need to read the stickied thread in system wars. Particularly this section:

So how do we deal with Fakeboys and Fanboys?

There is only one suggestion I have for fakeboys and fanboys - ignore them, and move on. I think the mods who are most often here (casey and cake) would agree with my sentiments. If you are in a thread, and realize that the person posting has become belligerent, or that they are simply here to troll, leave the thread. Responding to a fakeboy simply encourages them. Despite your best intentions, a fanboy will not change their ways or admit fault (unlike a fan) in a discussion, your response is only encouragement for them to continue "the defense", because in their mind this is an all-out war, rather than a place where we can openly compare systems and games (across platforms).

It concerns you.

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#36 Ninja-Vox
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As for the topic, i think any game can become a huge hit. Just look at Gears of War. The combination of it being a brilliant game in its own right, strong reviews and decent marketing made it a huge hit, almost to the same levels as the original Halo. Any game, so long as it's good enough and fun enough can be a hit. Nothing is invinceable. Just look at Mario.
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#37 MronoC
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In terms of sales, probably not, in terms of quality, an almost definite yes
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#38 skrat_01
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Nothing is invinceable. Just look at Mario.Ninja-Vox
Zelda?

Hell, Halo 2 on PC?

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#39 -Ninja_Dog-
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Nope.

No FPS other than Crysis maybe, will be able to compete with the complete package Halo 3 will be.

Every other FPS is lame in one way or another to the Halo franchise. Halo is the everything you see in other games except its refined to a orgasmic climax of awesomeness and completeness.

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#40 skrat_01
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CoD4, this game looks amazing and realistic shooters are sooo much fun.mattyomo99

LoL, COD is one of the most unrealisticseries of games EVER.

They are all very good though. COD1 on PC FTW - best COD by a LONG mile.

Realistic shooter =

Operation Flashpoint

ArmA: Amred Assault

Rainbow 6: Raven Shield (not that console tripe)

Ghost Recon (original, not 2, or GRAW)

SWAT 3 + 4

Red Orchestra

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#41 skrat_01
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Nope.

No FPS other than Crysis maybe, will be able to compete with the complete package Halo 3 will be.

Every other FPS is lame in one way or another to the Halo franchise. Halo is the everything you see in other games except its refined to a orgasmic climax of awesomeness and completeness.

-Ninja_Dog-

HALF LIFE > Halo*

UT3?

Bioshock?

Does that mean Halo is unoriginal? Methinks you need to think about that statement. :P

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#42 Ontain
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in popularity. probably none. in quality. sure.
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#43 -Ninja_Dog-
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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Nope.

No FPS other than Crysis maybe, will be able to compete with the complete package Halo 3 will be.

Every other FPS is lame in one way or another to the Halo franchise. Halo is the everything you see in other games except its refined to a orgasmic climax of awesomeness and completeness.

skrat_01

HALF LIFE > Halo* ----Hell no

UT3?---overated crap

Bioshock? ----more of an adventure game that a balls to the wall shooter like Halo

Does that mean Halo is unoriginal? Methinks you need to think about that statement. :P

Nothing original except its quality, nothing comes close.

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#44 InsaneBasura
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Personally I don't think that any game, regardless of its pedigree or its outcome, can or will stand up to Halo 3, that's not to say that Halo 3 will be a better game than any of these other games, that is simply based on the ridiculous amounts of Hype and fan love that surround this series.


What do you think?

AA7

The "Shooter of 2007" thread posted the other day pretty much proves your assumption will be correct. Personally I've never really cared for Halo. Me and purple snail-elephants don't mesh. It's all a bit too....alien for my taste. And the indoor levels were just crap. Should've designed the whole game to take place outdoors.

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In sales no, but in quality yes

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#46 casey7672
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I think Rainbow 6 Vegas and Resistance are right with it.
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"] Nothing is invinceable. Just look at Mario.skrat_01

Zelda?

Hell, Halo 2 on PC?

I dont understand your point. Zelda sells well because its a good game. Halo 2 hasn't sold amazingly on the PC, but not exactly poorly either. Both are good games and so sell. How does that make them invinceable?

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#48 Ninja-Vox
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The "Shooter of 2007" thread posted the other day pretty much proves your assumption will be correct. Personally I've never really cared for Halo. Me and purple snail-elephants don't mesh. It's all a bit too....alien for my taste. And the indoor levels were just crap. Should've designed the whole game to take place outdoors.

InsaneBasura

Whurt? What covenant on Halo resembles a purple snail-elephant? :?

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#49 baddog121390
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I don't expect Crysis to outsell Halo 3, especially in the first few months but, I also don't expect Halo 3 to crush Crysis in overall sales. If Halo 2 sold 9 million so far, and FarCry sold around 3.5 million (was barely hyped and had major competition with Doom 3 and Half-life 2) I have big expectations with Crysis. The fact that it is Vista's main killer app (Microsoft proposed it as Vista's "Halo") means it will be getting large marketing along with the help of the juggernaut that is EA.

You have to remember that the original Half-Life outsold both Halos so far. Crysis could be a surprise phenomenon just like Half-Life.

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#50 Raidea
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Sales wise. Nope.

Multiplayer. Nope.

Single player, yes I think so. Bioshock comes to mind.

I think Rainbow 6 Vegas and Resistance are right with it. casey7672

Neither of those games were in the same league as the H3 beta.