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#52 daredevils2k
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I agree with him. Look at Starfield, Redfall, and now Forza. All three games are getting bad publicity and I believe Game Pass is destroying the quality of games being put out by MS. Whats the point of devs making sure they are making the best game when it's going to be free on Game Pass?

The GOTY critics must be high on something for selecting a buggy racing game as racing game of the year in 2023. GOTY is a retard hype train.

You weren't complaining when Spiderman 2 a buggy mess got nominated for 7 awards, but you sure did complain when it didn't win anything. You cows need to stop being hypocrites.

And a word of advice, the R word is frowned upon (and rightfully so) here.

I take it you didn't watch any of the videos. there is a difference between Forza and Spider-Man. Even though both were released with bugs, Spider man 2 didn't release features missing from the previous game. That is what the Forza community is mad about. They feel that the latest Forza game is missing tons of game modes and features that the previous game has. so @last_lap you can bring up bugs all day long, but doesn't change the fact that the latest Forza is just an empty shell of a game.

yup and its going to take 2 years or so to get that complete game.

just like grounded and sea of thieves and halo.

just release them to get that money that releasing it as a full price would of gotten at launch.

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@last_lap said:

You weren't complaining when Spiderman 2 a buggy mess got nominated for 7 awards, but you sure did complain when it didn't win anything. You cows need to stop being hypocrites.

And a word of advice, the R word is frowned upon (and rightfully so) here.

That is what the Forza community is mad about. They feel that the latest Forza game is missing tons of game modes and features that the previous game has. but doesn't change the fact that the latest Forza is just an empty shell of a game.

Good thing none of that is true ^.

Good thing @kvallyx lives in a

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#53 KvallyX
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@daredevils2k said:
@kvallyx said:
@daredevils2k said:
@last_lap said:

You weren't complaining when Spiderman 2 a buggy mess got nominated for 7 awards, but you sure did complain when it didn't win anything. You cows need to stop being hypocrites.

And a word of advice, the R word is frowned upon (and rightfully so) here.

That is what the Forza community is mad about. They feel that the latest Forza game is missing tons of game modes and features that the previous game has. but doesn't change the fact that the latest Forza is just an empty shell of a game.

Good thing none of that is true ^.

Good thing @kvallyx lives in a

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@gifford38 said:
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He is 100% correct. You can very clearly see a massive quality fall off on games that are built for gamepass in mind.

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I mean, it's obvious that the quality of games falls off a cliff when they are made direct for Game Pass. This is undeniable. For that reason, the shit has got to go, or at the least, devs making top quality releases like BG3 need to stay far, far away from GP.

You cows are crazy. Can you name games AND define what makes those games made with Gamepass in mind?

With Gamepass in mind makes no sense, and I say this as someone who will never pay for Gamepass and see its pluses and minuses.

ok high graphic fatality games are short. hellblade 50 bucks.

sea of thieves took 2 years to be complete.

grounded beta form for over a year.

gamepass fill ins.

what gamepass has what maybe 4 AAA quality high profile games.

were sony makes every first party title huge and 5 year developing cycle.

look at the list of the top games from xbox and then look at sonys.

Why do you think when it comes to gameplay Sony's games for the most part are shallow? because Sony's devs spend most of their time creating the story and the 7hrs of cutscenes it takes to make those shitty stories.

The more you cows cheer on these games the longer they take and cost Sony to make, keep it up because it means less games for lot.

Cows say that Halo Infinite cost $500 million to make, but then say it was built with gamepass in mind. So which narrative are you cows going to go with today?

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#55 Gifford38
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@last_lap said:
@gifford38 said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:

He is 100% correct. You can very clearly see a massive quality fall off on games that are built for gamepass in mind.

@nod_calypse said:

I mean, it's obvious that the quality of games falls off a cliff when they are made direct for Game Pass. This is undeniable. For that reason, the shit has got to go, or at the least, devs making top quality releases like BG3 need to stay far, far away from GP.

You cows are crazy. Can you name games AND define what makes those games made with Gamepass in mind?

With Gamepass in mind makes no sense, and I say this as someone who will never pay for Gamepass and see its pluses and minuses.

ok high graphic fatality games are short. hellblade 50 bucks.

sea of thieves took 2 years to be complete.

grounded beta form for over a year.

gamepass fill ins.

what gamepass has what maybe 4 AAA quality high profile games.

were sony makes every first party title huge and 5 year developing cycle.

look at the list of the top games from xbox and then look at sonys.

Why do you think when it comes to gameplay Sony's games for the most part are shallow? because Sony's devs spend most of their time creating the story and the 7hrs of cutscenes it takes to make those shitty stories.

The more you cows cheer on these games the longer they take and cost Sony to make, keep it up because it means less games for lot.

Cows say that Halo Infinite cost $500 million to make, but then say it was built with gamepass in mind. So which narrative are you cows going to go with today?

yeah because sea of thieves, crackdown3, halo, grounded, forza and more gameplay is not shallow lmao. only people that say that are xbox fans.

because ghost,god of war,horizon,ratchet and clank,returnal,demon souls, and more are so shallow. please last of us 2 gameplay was said to be fake and scripted before it came out yet here we are playing it.

because 500 million and did not win any awards for nothing. hfw2 graphics was so beyond it.

name one person praising halo for its graphics.

so what game has shallow gameplay?

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#56 Gifford38
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@kvallyx said:
@daredevils2k said:
@kvallyx said:
@daredevils2k said:
@last_lap said:

You weren't complaining when Spiderman 2 a buggy mess got nominated for 7 awards, but you sure did complain when it didn't win anything. You cows need to stop being hypocrites.

And a word of advice, the R word is frowned upon (and rightfully so) here.

That is what the Forza community is mad about. They feel that the latest Forza game is missing tons of game modes and features that the previous game has. but doesn't change the fact that the latest Forza is just an empty shell of a game.

Good thing none of that is true ^.

Good thing @kvallyx lives in a

love how you always use pre-build shots that are review copies before the final product.

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#57 KvallyX
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@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:
@daredevils2k said:

Good thing @kvallyx lives in a

love how you always use pre-build shots that are review copies before the final product.

Sadly, this happened in the final product as well. Happened to me and many others that never had review copies.

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#58 Gifford38
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@kvallyx said:
@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:
@daredevils2k said:

Good thing @kvallyx lives in a

love how you always use pre-build shots that are review copies before the final product.

Sadly, this happened in the final product as well. Happened to me and many others that never had review copies.

wait it happened to you? yeah ok nice try though.

person who hates on it all day plays it. please.

so a glitch in a cut scene makes the game a dumpster fire?

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#59 KvallyX
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@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:
@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:
@daredevils2k said:

Good thing @kvallyx lives in a

love how you always use pre-build shots that are review copies before the final product.

Sadly, this happened in the final product as well. Happened to me and many others that never had review copies.

so a glitch in a cut scene makes the game a dumpster fire?

When there are thousands of bugs and glitches throughout the entire game, yes. Would you like me to post all the Youtube videos? There are TONS of videos showing how buggy and glitched the game is. The quality is equal to a dumpster fire.

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#60 Gifford38
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@kvallyx: must of been a kicks ass game if it still scored a 8 with all of these bugs.

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#61 KvallyX
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@kvallyx: must of been a kicks ass game if it still scored a 8 with all of these bugs.

Same with Starfield! WOOT! But yeah, Spider-Man 2 was a dumpster fire when it come to quality.

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#62  Edited By SecretPolice
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Poo cows. lol :P

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Hmm. Palworld is on Game Pass, and it is a bit bigger of a launch than BG3.

This thread has not aged well.

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#64  Edited By Sancho_Panzer
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Hmm. Palworld is on Game Pass, and it is a bit bigger of a launch than BG3.

This thread has not aged well.

I think he's just talking about maximizing profits for megabucks AAAs like BG3, to be fair.

He does appear to concede none of that really holds for the less heavily bankrolled projects without their kind of marketing resources.

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@gifford38 said:
@last_lap said:
@gifford38 said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:

He is 100% correct. You can very clearly see a massive quality fall off on games that are built for gamepass in mind.

@nod_calypse said:

I mean, it's obvious that the quality of games falls off a cliff when they are made direct for Game Pass. This is undeniable. For that reason, the shit has got to go, or at the least, devs making top quality releases like BG3 need to stay far, far away from GP.

You cows are crazy. Can you name games AND define what makes those games made with Gamepass in mind?

With Gamepass in mind makes no sense, and I say this as someone who will never pay for Gamepass and see its pluses and minuses.

ok high graphic fatality games are short. hellblade 50 bucks.

sea of thieves took 2 years to be complete.

grounded beta form for over a year.

gamepass fill ins.

what gamepass has what maybe 4 AAA quality high profile games.

were sony makes every first party title huge and 5 year developing cycle.

look at the list of the top games from xbox and then look at sonys.

Why do you think when it comes to gameplay Sony's games for the most part are shallow? because Sony's devs spend most of their time creating the story and the 7hrs of cutscenes it takes to make those shitty stories.

The more you cows cheer on these games the longer they take and cost Sony to make, keep it up because it means less games for lot.

Cows say that Halo Infinite cost $500 million to make, but then say it was built with gamepass in mind. So which narrative are you cows going to go with today?

yeah because sea of thieves, crackdown3, halo, grounded, forza and more gameplay is not shallow lmao. only people that say that are xbox fans.

because ghost,god of war,horizon,ratchet and clank,returnal,demon souls, and more are so shallow. please last of us 2 gameplay was said to be fake and scripted before it came out yet here we are playing it.

because 500 million and did not win any awards for nothing. hfw2 graphics was so beyond it.

name one person praising halo for its graphics.

so what game has shallow gameplay?

You are all over the place and can't form one coherent argument. How is one meant to respond to any of that dribble?

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#66  Edited By Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

yeah because sea of thieves, crackdown3, halo, grounded, forza and more gameplay is not shallow lmao. only people that say that are xbox fans.

because ghost,god of war,horizon,ratchet and clank,returnal,demon souls, and more are so shallow. please last of us 2 gameplay was said to be fake and scripted before it came out yet here we are playing it.

because 500 million and did not win any awards for nothing. hfw2 graphics was so beyond it.

name one person praising halo for its graphics.

so what game has shallow gameplay?

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@Pedro: lolol what is this GIF meaning?

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@thatforumuser: that I get a lot of pussy cats.

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#69 Pedro
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@Pedro: lolol what is this GIF meaning?

He needs to stop typing. If there is anyone that has a knack for typing utter nonsense, it is him.