Apple Products - Over rated Junk? A Reality Check (56K friendly...sorta)

This is a clear and concise comparison of basic tech vs "Apples" tech.

1)Price

Iphone - A 3gs model of an Iphone costs £500 in UK for a 16gb. Looking at this at a logical term, what you can buy for that much:

360 Elite - £160

Ps3 - £250

AND a 2nd hand DS or PSP for £60.

But but its a Phone?

Last time i checked, this Phone could do almost everything the bottom phones can do.

2) What can Iphone do that any other phone cant?

NOTHING

Here are a list of Phones that can practically do everything the Iphone can do.

-Nokia E90

One of the best Nokia Phones ever created. A design like a mini laptop, hard rock design, and litterally does everything you want it to do. Does it have Office? yes! does it have GPS? yes, does it have TomTom, Sygic, and sat navs, YES! does it have qwerty? YES!, Are any functions gimped? NO. Full range bluetooth, trully astounding GPS signal, and 3g capable.

- Motorola Droid

Android powered Phone with 1ghz and a powerful GPU eating up all the games it is thrown. Full qwerty keyboard if you are not a fan of touch screen, and the first google based Satnav via google maps. The interface alone makes Iphone look dated.

Other mentionables:

£500 for Iphone, or £350 for something that destroys Iphone?

4G tech

8.1 HD camera

and so much more!

But But teh Apple Store has everything?

Much of how Apple Iphone started, it had very limited support. Its only within 2009-2010 we have seen true blockbuster titles such as GTA, NFS, Plants V Zombies and others. Let's have an in-depth look at what Nokia has to offer?

Nokia Ngage 2.0 – Cross Platform based for all N series Phones.

Metal Gear Solid:

A proper MGS title much to taht of the first MGS on PSX unlike Iphone MGS

Bounce Ngage 2.0

One:

Tekken ****fighting game

And so much more.

Collection:

Ngage 2.0 – 58 titles
Java based – 300+
Ngage 1.0 – 40 titles

Apps for Nokia:

There is an app for literally everything that Iphone has (the ones that actually are useful, not pointless junk like Ghost detector). Mail, camera apps, flight track, mp3 player, Last FM, and pretty much Iphone has. Listed amount on imserba and impart are over 3000 apps.

Android:

A very fast and growing market with severe cpu power and gpu power (droid, and nexus).

Gaming on Android:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7qbqSnLU0

Toonwars running at solid 60FPS. NOVA on Iphone can barely pull out 30FPS with not much going on.

IPAD – UK Price - £300, ranging to £600.

This "Iphone gone fat" is no replacement for a laptop. FACT.

For £300, this is what a laptop can get you:

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/toshiba-satellite-l450d-13x-04127252-pdt.html

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.208-2101.aspx

and for £600

http://www.saverstore.com/product/20039260/7725665/Samsung-X420-JA01-Core-2-Duo-SU7300-13GHz-3GB-320GB-Windows-7-Home-Premium-14-WXGA-Exte

Easily outpacing Ipad.

Secondly, we all seen RE4 on Ipad :lol:

Lets look at RE4 on a laptop:

....Oh wait.....

Heres Resident Evil 5 running on a £500 laptop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ihsyDBhoY

Making RE4 run just as easy.

Overall – All you are paying for is an "I" infront of your product. IS it worth those heavy price tags? No

This is just to show the reality taht I products are not worth its value. The real reason it sells is for the "I" infront of it.

5 words. user friendly and sleek design. the public doesn't care how overpriced they are. The iphone is easy to navigate and understand, yet looks cool and somewhat futureristic with its multitouch screen.

Apple is trash :] If they slashed their prices by about 50% I'd have a lot more respect for them.

They aren't overrated, just overpriced.

Your poll made me actually have to read what you wrote, so I could make sure I was on the Apple Sucks side

Apple is trash :] If they slashed their prices by about 50% I'd have a lot more respect for them.

Mestitia

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

Apple is trash :] If they slashed their prices by about 50% I'd have a lot more respect for them.

Jared2720

It would be nice if their products were as functional as they are good to look at and didn't lock you into their stuff. People always complain about Microsoft but I think Apple is far worse. People are just blinded by pretty shiny things.

I would pay more for an Apple product than some other companies product because i know that i will be getting a high quality, easy to use and good looking MP3 player.

Meh. Apple products are well built, well designed and aesthetically pleasing but they are still incredibly overpriced.

I'm sorry Apple but I am not paying $1200 for a 13 inch Macbook Pro when I can buy a 14 inch Lenovo which lacks only the aluminum body and glass trackpad of the Macbook Pro and packs in a great deal more hardware under the hood for far less money.

And I did. And I am very happy with my purchase.

I would pay more for an Apple product than some other companies product because i know that i will be getting a high quality, easy to use and good looking MP3 player.

hoola

If the iPad sells bucketloads, I'll be convinced that Apple can get away with selling feces if they figured out a way to make them look shiny, sleek and trendy.

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

Apple is trash :] If they slashed their prices by about 50% I'd have a lot more respect for them.

Jared2720

Offtopic. Maynard owns. :D

Ontopic. There's no denying the quality and design of Apple products, but there's no justifying the price tags of their catalog either. Seriously, £500 for the iPad? I could buy a budget gaming laptop with that which could do ALOT more.

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

Apple is trash :] If they slashed their prices by about 50% I'd have a lot more respect for them.

Jared2720

Apples is....

Overpriced

Lacks customization

And Apples tries to force you to only buy their overpriced software.

Also Apple makes some of the most insulting ads AKA: MAC vs PC.

To me apple died back in the 1990s.

I think it goes without saying that Apple products are overrated, but Apple knows their audience; they know pretentious people are going to buy macbooks to sit in coffee shops and pretend to write novels.

Ugh, the Ngage's library is not superior to the iPhone's just because it has one decent Metal Gear Solid port. Ngage has been around much longer than the App Store - dating all the way back to 2003. It has not succeeded and there is no sign of strong developer support for OVI.

Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars, Civilization Revolution, Super Monkey Ball, Monkey Island, Call of Duty: WWZ, Geometry Wars, Red Alert, Mirror's Edge, Zenonia, Street Fighter 4, Final Fantasy, Dungeon Hunter, NOVA, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, etc. etc.

Anyway, the proper handheld comparison should be the iPod Touch ($199) to the DSi ($169-$189) and PSP ($169-$199).

Apple is trash :] If they slashed their prices by about 50% I'd have a lot more respect for them.

Mestitia

Apples products are beaten out by almost everything out there for price and features. It's just a fad and "cool" to have a apple product these days.Ringx55

Personally im not dissing the iphone and ipod touch that much, im just alot more critical on macs and ipads

oh and btw. N-GAGE?!? that is probably the worst "phone" in history

Apple products are..

1.Overpriced

2.Fragile

3.They lock you to their programs

and this can be said for all their products.

Apple proves how shallow the thinking of alot of people are, aesthetics over better/more features and price seem reasonable for them.

If the iPad sells bucketloads, I'll be convinced that Apple can get away with selling feces if they figured out a way to make them look shiny, sleek and trendy.

GreySeal9

There was an episode of mythbusters where they managed to make feces shine. It was a time consuming process though which would probably reduce the interest of corporations like apple :?.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]If the iPad sells bucketloads, I'll be convinced that Apple can get away with selling feces if they figured out a way to make them look shiny, sleek and trendy.

_Tobli_

There was an episode of mythbusters where they managed to make feces shine. It was a time consuming process though which would probably reduce the interest of corporations like apple :?.

lol.

And BTW, how the hell did they manage to make feces shine?

Apple makes great products. They're easy to use and they're aesthetically pleasing. They're disliked by a very small portion of the population, the sort of crowd that frequents forums like this one. I know people here hate Apple and the iPad, but people thinking the iPad is going to be a failure are only kidding themselves. They sold nearly 1 million iPads at launch yesterday: http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/04/03/analyst-apple-sold-600-700-thousand-ipads-the-first-day/ The iPad is going to be a behemoth, like it or not.Jared2720

their computers are.

what they do puts MS's tactics to shame.

I would pay more for an Apple product than some other companies product because i know that i will be getting a high quality, easy to use and good looking MP3 player.

hoola

Really?

http://www.avforums.com/forums/iphone-discussions/1116630-iphone-3g-gps-stopped-working.html

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=687882

http://www.fixya.com/tags/iphone_touch_screen_not_working

The Iphone alone has more faults than the N series put together. These are not nitty gritty problems, i was an owner of Iphone for a while before moving to n900 and im glad.

And BTW, how the hell did they manage to make feces shine?

GreySeal9

I don't remember the process all that well.

They rolled it into a ball, stored it in a cool place, polishd the heck out of it once it was fairly compact, etc.

Personally im not dissing the iphone and ipod touch that much, im just alot more critical on macs and ipads

oh and btw. N-GAGE?!? that is probably the worst "phone" in history

DoomZaW

I agree N-gage was a flop (the phone). What im discussing is the Ngage app that allows you to play all the latest Ngage games on any latest nokia phone.

I am waiting for the future, seems it will only get better from here.

I posted this earlier, but I think it applies.

I think it goes without saying that Apple products are overrated, but Apple knows their audience; they know pretentious people are going to buy macbooks to sit in coffee shops and pretend to write novels.

Vyylent5

Apple proves how shallow the thinking of alot of people are, aesthetics over better/more features and price seem reasonable for them.

Espada12

Apple products are..

1.Overpriced

2.Fragile

3.They lock you to their programs

and this can be said for all their products.

Apple proves how shallow the thinking of alot of people are, aesthetics over better/more features and price seem reasonable for them.

Here are two of the most telling comments of the thread. It's not about the products, it's about thinking you're better than someone else because you don't use them. And yet Mac users are supposedly the elitist ones.lowe0

The iPhone as a development platform has propelled it past all other smartphones by a *huge* margin. Its user base being so massive is also reason for it having such weight in development behind it. Which is why other smartphones pale in comparison really, *especially* as far as gaming is concerned. That and Apple products have some of the best industrial design and build quality about; the iPhone especially. - However I think the iPad is just ridiculous. skrat_01

[QUOTE="hoola"]

I would pay more for an Apple product than some other companies product because i know that i will be getting a high quality, easy to use and good looking MP3 player.

Disturbed123

Really?

http://www.avforums.com/forums/iphone-discussions/1116630-iphone-3g-gps-stopped-working.html

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=687882

http://www.fixya.com/tags/iphone_touch_screen_not_working

The Iphone alone has more faults than the N series put together. These are not nitty gritty problems, i was an owner of Iphone for a while before moving to n900 and im glad.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Apple products are..

1.Overpriced

2.Fragile

3.They lock you to their programs

and this can be said for all their products.

Apple proves how shallow the thinking of alot of people are, aesthetics over better/more features and price seem reasonable for them.

clone01

Looking at Iphone, its not a very versitile phone. You drop it, and game over. You put it in your pocket, and the back nano panel will scratch with ease. Its a very delicate phone. Now, taking something like HTC Hero, which has the same capacitive touch as Iphone is far more stronger build and feels alot more solid in your hand. Iphone 2g and 3g do tend to be a bit on the slow side once you start packing it with apps, and it becomes far more daunting when you are using the 32gb version of the phone and you have packed 20gb worth of data on it.

I'd take my nexus one over an iphone any day.

what i find silly is that many of the posters here really don't have experience with the system to make a qualified judgement.clone01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]The iPhone as a development platform has propelled it past all other smartphones by a *huge* margin. Its user base being so massive is also reason for it having such weight in development behind it. Which is why other smartphones pale in comparison really, *especially* as far as gaming is concerned. That and Apple products have some of the best industrial design and build quality about; the iPhone especially. - However I think the iPad is just ridiculous. clone01

Looking at Iphone, its not a very versitile phone. You drop it, and game over. You put it in your pocket, and the back nano panel will scratch with ease. Its a very delicate phone. Now, taking something like HTC Hero, which has the same capacitive touch as Iphone is far more stronger build and feels alot more solid in your hand. Iphone 2g and 3g do tend to be a bit on the slow side once you start packing it with apps, and it becomes far more daunting when you are using the 32gb version of the phone and you have packed 20gb worth of data on it.

As long as there are idiots in this world, Apple will be around.fzdk