An honest high end gaming PC build, not exactly $500, more like $2,000+

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#1 Xplode_games
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I know a lot of people love to post threads about the gaming PC they can build for $500 or so dollars but it's not something they or anyone would ever actually build.

This is something that someone would actually build. This is not a super high end PC because that can run upwards of $5,000.

CPU + Motherboard Combo - $644.98

i7-7800X 6-core Skylake, MSI X299 Tomahawk motherboard

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3649933

RAM - 32GB(4X8GB) DDR4 3000 - $300.46

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIACVB5J86371&ignorebbr=1

Case - Corsair Obsidian Series 750D - $159.99

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139060&ignorebbr=1

Power Supply Unit - EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Fully Modular - $99.99

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438093&ignorebbr=1

SSD boot drive for the OS - Samsung 850 EVO M.2 500 GB - $169.99

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147399

Storage - Western Digital Gold 4TB HD - $167.99

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W048F0291&ignorebbr=1

Operating System - Windows 10 Home 64-bit OEM - $99.99

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416892

Graphics Processing Unit - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB - $529.99 - Includes Shadow of War game

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125880&ignorebbr=1

Misc accessories - $203.32

Keyboard and Mouse Combo - $44.99 https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Wave-Combo-MK550/dp/B003VAHYNC/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1506904045&sr=1-8&keywords=wireless+keyboard+and+mouse

Xbox One Wireless Controller - $45.86 https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-Wireless-Controller-Black-one/dp/B01LPZM7VI/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1506904134&sr=1-4&keywords=xbox%2Bone%2Bcontroller&th=1

CPU Fan - MasterAir Pro 4 - $39.99 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103229&ignorebbr=1

Thermal Compound - Arctic MX-4 - $19.49 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186056&ignorebbr=1

Blu-Ray Drive - $52.99 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135247

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GRAND TOTAL = $2,376.70

This is a complete high end gaming PC system. Actually this system should have a GTX 1080 Ti because it would only increase the price by $200. Something that is already so expensive can have a massive increase in graphics performance for only $200, I think it's definitely worth it. I didn't include it because I don't want to be accused of using the most expensive components just to make it more expensive.

There is no denying, this system is better than an Xbox One X and it should be. The price definitely reflects that as well. There is also no denying, the X1X is one hell of a bargain for only $500.

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#2 MonsieurX
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What a terrible build

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@MonsieurX said:

What a terrible build

And yet it costs over $2,000 to build it yourself. If I go higher end it will be much more expensive.

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@MonsieurX: agreed lol. Console gamers act like u have to drop thousands on a PC just to play games lol. U can build a PC from scratch that matches Xbox one X for probably $800. It's not $500 but no one only spends $500 on an Xbox when they pay out the ass for Xbox live and pay more for games.

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>Paying over $100 for a computer case

>having Optical drive

>overpriced thermal compound

>Spending over 150$ on a motherboard

Yep, shit build.

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#6 Jebus213
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@Xplode_games said:
@MonsieurX said:

What a terrible build

And yet it costs over $2,000 to build it yourself. If I go higher end it will be much more expensive.

lol no it won't. Depending on what you need or want of course. Slap a 1080 Ti in their instead of a regular 1080 it basically becomes a work station/gaming PC.

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@Fairmonkey said:

@MonsieurX: agreed lol. Console gamers act like u have to drop thousands on a PC just to play games lol. U can build a PC from scratch that matches Xbox one X for probably $800. It's not $500 but no one only spends $500 on an Xbox when they pay out the ass for Xbox live and pay more for games.

An $800 PC that beats the X1X? You must mean with a $50 motherboard, a $50 PSU, the worst possible and cheapest RAM, a worthless $50 CPU, no aftermarket CPU cooler, a cut down middle end GPU like the 1060, no OS, no keyboard, no mouse, no controller, no SSD, crappy hard drive and no games! That sounds great to anyone who knows absolutely ZERO about computers. Another thing, a crappy PC build like that isn't high end(laughable) and doesn't beat the X1X in gaming performance.

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I don't understand your point. You don't need to spend remotely that much to surpass consoles. If your point is that the sky is the limit on pc, then ok? I guess that's a pro if anything. You can spend a metric ton of money on a space age rig if you put your mind to it, but you are certainly free to spend way less

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#9  Edited By Nick3306
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This is a horrible system, lets go through a list of dumb decisions you made

1. A bluray drive is not necessary

2.An i7 7800x and x299 for gaming is ridiculous and an awful decision

3. 32GB of ram is useless for gaming, 16GB is more than enough

4. 4TB harddrive is way too much for a gaming PC

5. You get the hyper 212 evo cpu fan, its cheaper and it comes with thermal compound.

I don't know what you were trying to prove but all you proved was how ignorant you are.

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@Jebus213 said:

>Paying over $100 for a computer case

>having Optical drive

>overpriced thermal compound

>Spending over 150$ on a motherboard

Yep, shit build.

1. If you want a decent case. You can get a cheaper one but the system won't be the same. It will be cramped in the case which will make it tougher to work in and more restricted to upgrade(can't use larger GPUs). The cooling will be inferior. A cheaper case also may come with less or no case fans so when you add up the cost of case fans that you should add, it may be closer to a good case than you think.

2. Yes you can omit that. But what if you want to play blu-ray movies? You can buy a system without a drive but it will be a lesser system. You won't be able to play DVDs or Blu-ray movies. You lose out on something for saving that money but yes you can save it.

3. It's $20, you can get cheap thermal compound for $5 or $10. Ok so maybe you can get thermal compound at a better deal and save a few dollars. But don't get different quality thermal compound and say it's the same and save like that.

4. That's because it's an X299 motherboard which is a higher end motherboard with the pro CPU slot that takes up to an 18 core/32 thread uber high end CPU. I chose this one because it would be absurd at this point in time to buy a 4 core/8 thread intel i7 processor for $360 when very soon you will see the next gen mainstream i7 CPU that will be 6 core, 12 threads for the same amount of money. My build includes an intel i7 6 core/12 thread CPU that is only $360 but you have to use the higher end motherboards which are more expensive but also have more features such as quad channel memory support, multiple X16 PCI lanes and so on.

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@Xplode_games: X1X is hardly high end. It will play pretty much all games above 1080p at 30fps and it has a potato CPU. I would maybe believe you but multiple people have already proved u wrong and built PCs that match Xbox one x in gaming performance for $800 or less

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#12  Edited By commander
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@Jebus213 said:

>Paying over $100 for a computer case

>having Optical drive

>overpriced thermal compound

>Spending over 150$ on a motherboard

Yep, shit build.

Not to mention a whopping 32 gigs of expensive ram lmao

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#13  Edited By commander
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@Xplode_games said:
@Fairmonkey said:

@MonsieurX: agreed lol. Console gamers act like u have to drop thousands on a PC just to play games lol. U can build a PC from scratch that matches Xbox one X for probably $800. It's not $500 but no one only spends $500 on an Xbox when they pay out the ass for Xbox live and pay more for games.

An $800 PC that beats the X1X? You must mean with a $50 motherboard, a $50 PSU, the worst possible and cheapest RAM, a worthless $50 CPU, no aftermarket CPU cooler, a cut down middle end GPU like the 1060, no OS, no keyboard, no mouse, no controller, no SSD, crappy hard drive and no games! That sounds great to anyone who knows absolutely ZERO about computers. Another thing, a crappy PC build like that isn't high end(laughable) and doesn't beat the X1X in gaming performance.

Not only have you made an unbalanced build with too much ram, too expensive ram, a too expensive ssd, case, cpu and motherboard (heck even the thermal paste is too expensive), you also are clueless of how much power you need to beat the x1x.

A 1080 with an I7 since ivy bridge will murder it, and 16gb of ddr3 will be more than enough.

You can use the stock cooler...

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Good God, that's terrible.

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@Nick3306 said:

This is a horrible system, lets go through a list of dumb decisions you made

1. A bluray drive is not necessary

2.An i7 7800x and x299 for gaming is ridiculous and an awful decision

3. 32GB of ram is useless for gaming, 16GB is more than enough

4. 4TB harddrive is way too much for a gaming PC

5. You get the hyper 212 evo cpu fan, its cheaper and it comes with thermal compound.

I don't know what you were trying to prove but all you proved was how ignorant you are.

1. Yes you can omit that. But what if you want to play blu-ray movies? You can buy a system without a drive but it will be a lesser system. You won't be able to play DVDs or Blu-ray movies. You lose out on something for saving that money but yes you can save it.

2. That's because it's an X299 motherboard which is a higher end motherboard with the pro CPU slot that takes up to an 18 core/32 thread uber high end CPU. I chose this one because it would be absurd at this point in time to buy a 4 core/8 thread intel i7 processor for $360 when very soon you will see the next gen mainstream i7 CPU that will be 6 core, 12 threads for the same amount of money. My build includes an intel i7 6 core/12 thread CPU that is only $360 but you have to use the higher end motherboards which are more expensive but also have more features such as quad channel memory support, multiple X16 PCI lanes and so on.

3. 32GB of RAM is not useless for gaming. It's overall better and the norm in the near future. You don't build a high end PC with the same amount of RAM of high end PCs of a few years ago. I understand you can save some money on RAM but you will have worse overall performance. My decision was for higher performance and more future proofing. You can opt for 16GB of RAM but you will be upgrading RAM in a couple of years.

4. It depends on how many games you have. Maybe for your it is. I think it's bare minimum. I have over 200 PC games on steam, Origin and GOG. For me 4 TB is the bare minimum. For a high end PC build I would think 4 TB is the bare minimum. Of course you can get less storage space but it would be a worse system that would need to be upgraded soon.

5. I am familiar with the Hyper 212 because I have it in my current build. This CPU cooler is the one that replaces the Hyper 212. It is also from Cooler Master. It has more copper pipes to keep things cooler and is only $5 more expensive. It also brings it's own thermal compound but I like the one I chose. Of course anyone can save the $20 and use the standard one that the heatsink brings but I wouldn't get a last gen heatsink just to save $5.

It's funny that you think i'm ignorant because I priced out an honest build that has high quality components. If I would've put up some worthless crap build just to show how cheap it can be, I wonder if you would've complained.

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#16  Edited By commander
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@Fairmonkey said:

@Xplode_games: X1X is hardly high end. It will play pretty much all games above 1080p at 30fps and it has a potato CPU. I would maybe believe you but multiple people have already proved u wrong and built PCs that match Xbox one x in gaming performance for $800 or less

That cpu is stronger than you think, but a 7800x is more than double the performance. Probably even triples it.

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Go big or go home https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QW2wd6

$6k, Dual 1080Ti, Threadripper 8-core 3.8 GHz, 64 PCIe lanes, 3 PCIe NVMe SSDs in RAID 0 for 12 GB/sec reads, 64 GB DDR4-3200, 10Gbit NIC, Custom water loop, Yes that's $300 worth of fans and a $500 case. Dope AF.

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@pyro1245 said:

Go big or go home https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QW2wd6

$6k, Dual 1080Ti, Threadripper 8-core 3.8 GHz, 64 PCIe lanes, 3 PCIe NVMe SSDs in RAID 0 for 12 GB/sec reads, 64 GB DDR4-3200, 10Gbit NIC, Custom water loop, Yes that's $300 worth of fans and a $500 case. Dope AF.

Lol, now that is a super high end system. They didn't even go for the top of the line threadripper. You can always go more high end, even higher than that one although that one is pretty darn high.

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#19  Edited By Jebus213
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@Xplode_games said:
@pyro1245 said:

Go big or go home https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QW2wd6

$6k, Dual 1080Ti, Threadripper 8-core 3.8 GHz, 64 PCIe lanes, 3 PCIe NVMe SSDs in RAID 0 for 12 GB/sec reads, 64 GB DDR4-3200, 10Gbit NIC, Custom water loop, Yes that's $300 worth of fans and a $500 case. Dope AF.

Lol, now that is a super high end system. They didn't even go for the top of the line threadripper. You can always go more high end, even higher than that one although that one is pretty darn high.

That's basically a workstation.

>SLI'd GTX 1080 Ti's

>64GB's or RAM

>Threadripper

That's completely unnecessary for gaming alone.

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#20  Edited By commander
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@Xplode_games said:
@pyro1245 said:

Go big or go home https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QW2wd6

$6k, Dual 1080Ti, Threadripper 8-core 3.8 GHz, 64 PCIe lanes, 3 PCIe NVMe SSDs in RAID 0 for 12 GB/sec reads, 64 GB DDR4-3200, 10Gbit NIC, Custom water loop, Yes that's $300 worth of fans and a $500 case. Dope AF.

Lol, now that is a super high end system. They didn't even go for the top of the line threadripper. You can always go more high end, even higher than that one although that one is pretty darn high.

Why don't you go for the 18 core 7980xe while you're at it, put a dozen nvidia teslas on there, and play battlefield 1 in 8k at 700 fps.

price tag 100 000 $

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@commander said:
@Xplode_games said:
@pyro1245 said:

Go big or go home https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QW2wd6

$6k, Dual 1080Ti, Threadripper 8-core 3.8 GHz, 64 PCIe lanes, 3 PCIe NVMe SSDs in RAID 0 for 12 GB/sec reads, 64 GB DDR4-3200, 10Gbit NIC, Custom water loop, Yes that's $300 worth of fans and a $500 case. Dope AF.

Lol, now that is a super high end system. They didn't even go for the top of the line threadripper. You can always go more high end, even higher than that one although that one is pretty darn high.

Why don't you go for the 18 core 7980xe while you're at it, put a dozen nvidia teslas on there, and play battlefield 1 in 8k at 700 fps.

price tag 100 000 $

Lol, that's funny. It's interesting though that some are acting as if my build is ridiculously high end. First, I didn't even include a 1080 ti which is the only GPU on this planet Earth that can run 99% of games at 4K max settings and 60 fps. If you look closely at my build, you will notice I really tried to chose the most reasonably priced parts. Finally, I have seen many members on this site with PC builds superior than the one I posted here. I have never seen anyone on this site with a build like the one pyro1245 pointed out but better than my build all the time. And this is just me looking at the sig of posters with their PC build there to see what system they have. I am not talking about threads where this is discussed as I don't frequent the PC forum on this site.

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There are many hermits that try to be pc salesmen to sell console gamers garbage pcs to make pc gaming appear cheaper. These pcs often dont have an os and cut major corners.

However that being said this post is just as dumb but on the other end of the spectrum.

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This time we actually need @ronvalencia

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@Xplode_games: good try, but a few things.

32 Gb of ram, 4TB of hdd, and the x299 platform are all wastes of money.

I would change it to 16 GB of ram, use the i7 8700K launching next week, on a mid range (say $150ish) motherboard, and use the money for a 1080ti, and faster/larger ssd instead.

The point of diminishing returns for a high end build is more like $1500.

By that I mean, you can spend up to that much, and get decent improvements, but going over that amount won't net you much benefit for the added cost.

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#25  Edited By Xplode_games
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@Fairmonkey said:

@Xplode_games: X1X is hardly high end. It will play pretty much all games above 1080p at 30fps and it has a potato CPU. I would maybe believe you but multiple people have already proved u wrong and built PCs that match Xbox one x in gaming performance for $800 or less

Well, if you can answer the following question for me then you win. Why is it that most people who build their own high end PC, will have a build similar to the one I have shown here, however you will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER(I'm leaving some out) see anyone on this forum or any other forum or on planet Earth who has a build like the $800 builds posted here that "beat" the X1X?

The $800 PC is a sham, it is used in threads to damage control and put down the X1X. Same thing happened back when the 360 was released. Now people say no they always said it destroyed top end PCs. I remember these forums back in 2005, I was a regular back then. They were saying the same things you hear now. First it was 360 is more Xbox 1.5 and wait till the PS3 comes out. Then countless threads demonstrating how even mid end GPUs are vastly superior. It gave an impression that the 360 was garbage and you should wait for the PS3. Even when the PS3 was released they moved the goal post and fast forward till today where it serves them to say the 360 was always a wildly high end console that beat the high end PCs of the time. Yea right, no it didn't it was the same as the X1X is now and no one ever would admit that here even if it did.

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#26 Jebus213
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@Xplode_games said:

Why is it that most people who build their own high end PC, will have a build similar to the one I have shown here,

>most

annnd that's where you lost.

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what in the hell is even the point of this?

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@appariti0n said:

@Xplode_games: good try, but a few things.

32 Gb of ram, 4TB of hdd, and the x299 platform are all wastes of money.

I would change it to 16 GB of ram, use the i7 8700K launching next week, on a mid range (say $150ish) motherboard, and use the money for a 1080ti, and faster/larger ssd instead.

The point of diminishing returns for a high end build is more like $1500.

By that I mean, you can spend up to that much, and get decent improvements, but going over that amount won't net you much benefit for the added cost.

The main reason I wanted the 32 GB of RAM is because if I chose the 16 GB then it would take up 4 slots anyway and the next upgrade would be 4 additional RAM chips that would leave all 8 RAM slots filled. I don't like to necessarily do that if I can avoid it. However, you are right about the 8700k solving this problem because then I could just save on the RAM and motherboard and you are right with the savings I can add a 1080 ti. I would've chosen that CPU and a corresponding motherboard for this build if it were out now. However, I pointed it out that I chose the components I did because it would be absurd to purchase a 7700K system when the 8700K will be out soon with 50% more cores and threads.

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@Xplode_games said:

Why is it that most people who build their own high end PC, will have a build similar to the one I have shown here,

what are you basing this on?

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#30  Edited By appariti0n
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@Xplode_games: Look up "7800x ring bus latency" on google if you're interested. It kind of explains why the 7800x, while being a decent workstation chip, is actually pretty bad for gaming considering the price. I don't know wtf Intel was thinking.

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@drlostrib said:
@Xplode_games said:

Why is it that most people who build their own high end PC, will have a build similar to the one I have shown here,

what are you basing this on?

I'm basing this on just paying attention to what most PC gaming builds consist of. For example, do you ever pay attention to a PC gamer that has his list of components as his sig? Also basing it on I have never heard of anyone that builds a gaming PC with a $50 CPU, no aftermarket CPU cooler, $50 case, $50 motherboard, no OS, cheapest worst RAM, no mouse, no keyboard, no SSD, no wireless controller and $450 GPU for example. It is something that doesn't make sense and no one would ever do. Maybe now that I say this, there will be a thread with a whole bunch of people saying that they have those worthless $800 "gaming PCs".

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@appariti0n said:

@Xplode_games: Look up "7800x ring bus latency" on google if you're interested. It kind of explains why the 7800x, while being a decent workstation chip, is actually pretty bad for gaming considering the price. I don't know wtf Intel was thinking.

I will definitely do that.

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#33  Edited By DrLostRib
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@Xplode_games said:
@drlostrib said:
@Xplode_games said:

Why is it that most people who build their own high end PC, will have a build similar to the one I have shown here,

what are you basing this on?

I'm basing this on just paying attention to what most PC gaming builds consist of. For example, do you ever pay attention to a PC gamer that has his list of components as his sig? Also basing it on I have never heard of anyone that builds a gaming PC with a $50 CPU, no aftermarket CPU cooler, $50 case, $50 motherboard, no OS, cheapest worst RAM, no mouse, no keyboard, no SSD, no wireless controller and $450 GPU for example. It is something that doesn't make sense and no one would ever do. Maybe now that I say this, there will be a thread with a whole bunch of people saying that they have those worthless $800 "gaming PCs".

"most PC gaming builds" seriously where are you seeing this. who is recommending an i7 7800x with 32GB of RAM and a 4TB Enterprise Server HDD?

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#34 Nick3306
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@Xplode_games said:
@Nick3306 said:

This is a horrible system, lets go through a list of dumb decisions you made

1. A bluray drive is not necessary

2.An i7 7800x and x299 for gaming is ridiculous and an awful decision

3. 32GB of ram is useless for gaming, 16GB is more than enough

4. 4TB harddrive is way too much for a gaming PC

5. You get the hyper 212 evo cpu fan, its cheaper and it comes with thermal compound.

I don't know what you were trying to prove but all you proved was how ignorant you are.

1. Yes you can omit that. But what if you want to play blu-ray movies? You can buy a system without a drive but it will be a lesser system. You won't be able to play DVDs or Blu-ray movies. You lose out on something for saving that money but yes you can save it.

2. That's because it's an X299 motherboard which is a higher end motherboard with the pro CPU slot that takes up to an 18 core/32 thread uber high end CPU. I chose this one because it would be absurd at this point in time to buy a 4 core/8 thread intel i7 processor for $360 when very soon you will see the next gen mainstream i7 CPU that will be 6 core, 12 threads for the same amount of money. My build includes an intel i7 6 core/12 thread CPU that is only $360 but you have to use the higher end motherboards which are more expensive but also have more features such as quad channel memory support, multiple X16 PCI lanes and so on.

3. 32GB of RAM is not useless for gaming. It's overall better and the norm in the near future. You don't build a high end PC with the same amount of RAM of high end PCs of a few years ago. I understand you can save some money on RAM but you will have worse overall performance. My decision was for higher performance and more future proofing. You can opt for 16GB of RAM but you will be upgrading RAM in a couple of years.

4. It depends on how many games you have. Maybe for your it is. I think it's bare minimum. I have over 200 PC games on steam, Origin and GOG. For me 4 TB is the bare minimum. For a high end PC build I would think 4 TB is the bare minimum. Of course you can get less storage space but it would be a worse system that would need to be upgraded soon.

5. I am familiar with the Hyper 212 because I have it in my current build. This CPU cooler is the one that replaces the Hyper 212. It is also from Cooler Master. It has more copper pipes to keep things cooler and is only $5 more expensive. It also brings it's own thermal compound but I like the one I chose. Of course anyone can save the $20 and use the standard one that the heatsink brings but I wouldn't get a last gen heatsink just to save $5.

It's funny that you think i'm ignorant because I priced out an honest build that has high quality components. If I would've put up some worthless crap build just to show how cheap it can be, I wonder if you would've complained.

1. Most people dont play bluray movies on their gaming computers.
2. x299 is a dead end chipset that is actually not close to the best gaming performance, it is mainly a workstation processor. It costs WAY more than better gaming CPUs
3. 32GB is useless for gaming and until you can show me a game that requires it it will be useless.
4. 4TB is massive and nowhere near what should be considered for a high end gaming computer. yes you can have tons of games but 4TB is an insane number of games, no one would realistically have that many installed at once.
5. Well it is good you know that but it is obvious you just added the thermal compound to up the price.

It is funny that you try to justify your ignorance on a topic where you aimed to unrealistically show how expensive high end PC gaming is as sort of an advertisement for the xbox one x. The problem is that in terms of power, the xbox one x is relatively weak. Sure it will perform a bit better since optimization on consoles is better but it isn't even close to what even an $800 PC can do. When will people like you just face the fact that it is two different audiences. They are both better to their own audiences. Instead you make this troll post full of flaws and embarrass yourself.

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TC, please get a clue. You know nothing about PCs.

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#36  Edited By Juub1990
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I have 16GB of RAM and no game comes close to maxing it out so I don't know where you're getting 32GB from lol.

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#37  Edited By Jebus213
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@Xplode_games said:

I have never heard of anyone that builds a gaming PC with no aftermarket CPU cooler, $50 case, $50 motherboard, no OS, no mouse, no keyboard, no SSD, no wireless controller

Really?

Some people use stock coolers when they don't play plan on overclocking or unless the CPU doesn't come with a stock cooler.

I have a $50 mid-tower case and my GTX 1080 fits just fine. <_< I mean really, how often am I gonna go inside my case to upgrade? Every two or three years? Not that much of a hassle. Also, I don't have space for a Full tower case.

I already have a keyboard and mouse. I didn't need to buy either.

Most of the time I already have the OS. This time I needed one because 7th gen Intel processors require Windows 10.

I don't use controllers. I don't play platformers, racers, fighters, etc. except for maybe the Trine series which works well with a Mouse and Keyboard.

If you plan on going small or have no need for a ATX motherboard some people will go out and buy Mini-ITX and Micro ATX motherboards for $50 and slap a high end GPU and CPU on it. I've done this and no, they're not only off brands: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132871

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@Fairmonkey said:

@MonsieurX: agreed lol. Console gamers act like u have to drop thousands on a PC just to play games lol. U can build a PC from scratch that matches Xbox one X for probably $800. It's not $500 but no one only spends $500 on an Xbox when they pay out the ass for Xbox live and pay more for games.

Might even be less than $800. My brothers i5 office computer was $300 at microcenter and he paid $300 to upgrade the powersupply/video card. i5 with 1060 6GB is better than the XboxX and it only cost him about $600 total.

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#39  Edited By MirkoS77
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You can get a perfectly serviceable rig for gaming for a grand that'll last you a few years. $2k is going to get you a very good rig, but it's not at all necessary.

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#40  Edited By reavis86
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This build destroys your $2500 build with little to no sacrifices and in many ways is better. Total $1798..doesnt include controller or kb&m, but everyone has the laying around...maybe add $50 to the total for a xb1 controller. I disregarded coffeelake and went ahead and went with kabylake. Any gamer could scale down this build to suit their needs and come in alot cheaper.

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.00 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.00 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: MSI - Z270 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($101.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($130.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($98.94 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)

Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB DUKE OC Video Card ($744.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Fractal Design - Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.98 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $1798.74

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#41  Edited By AnthonyAutumns
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> wasteful power supply, good for 2x 1080

> too big ram, recommended is 8gb - 16gb

> going big, not choosing Titan Xp or 1080 TI

> disk drive too big, are you planning to torrent a lot of files?

> using fan when you can go liquid cooling

> using optical drive, what is this year 2000?

> Win10 Home? wtf

> keyboard and mouse, not ideal for gaming

> no headset and/or speakers

> no monitor. will you be using TV? not ideal for pc gaming.

rate: 4/10

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@Nick3306 said:

4. 4TB is massive and nowhere near what should be considered for a high end gaming computer. yes you can have tons of games but 4TB is an insane number of games, no one would realistically have that many installed at once.

Exactly I have a 1TB HDD and I have 70 games installed on it currently and I still got enough room to install a couple more and this isn't even factoring all the space I'm using that isn't for games like my hundreds of FLAC music files, video files, gifs, photoshop, illustrator, and etc.

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#44  Edited By adamosmaki
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Most people dont need

a $160 case

a $100 fully modular PSU

a 6 core skylake x CPU that costs $450 and literally offers no performance advantage over a Ryzen 5 1600

a $150 motherboard

32GB of Ram where as 16gb is more than enough and even 8gb are still enough

$340 of storage space when a 256gb SSD+2TB HD will cost $150 and will cover most gamers needs

an overpriced blue ray drive that 99% of people interested in pc gaming will have no use for it

$200 of overpriced accessories ( a decent $30 gaming mouse and a basic keyboard are more than enough)

a $40 aftermarket cooler when the aforementioned Ryzen has a decent cooler that even allows a bit of overclocking

Also a

A gtx 1070 offers better performance than X1X and a 1060 6gb offers similar performance

Windows 10 can be downloaded and work for free completely legal from microsoft even when not activated ( you have some options like personalization settings disable until activated but otherwise they work just fine )

Horrible thread horrible build

Edit * a $20 thermal paste ? You dont even trying arent you

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#45 dxmcat
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You can make a living with a strong PC. You cant make a living off an Xbox :P

oh yea, misleading topic.........."HONEST" my ass.

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2600k i7, released in 2011, 250€still runs circles around xXx

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#47  Edited By Wizard
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@Xplode_games: You should stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself. Nobody around here calls $500 PCs "high end" and all of the "high end" PC owners around here would never buy the PC you've just trolled together. That's an enormous waste of money. My PC shits on that in gaming for close to the same cost, luxury items and water cooling included.

Fail.

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@Xplode_games said:
@Fairmonkey said:

@MonsieurX: agreed lol. Console gamers act like u have to drop thousands on a PC just to play games lol. U can build a PC from scratch that matches Xbox one X for probably $800. It's not $500 but no one only spends $500 on an Xbox when they pay out the ass for Xbox live and pay more for games.

An $800 PC that beats the X1X? You must mean with a $50 motherboard, a $50 PSU, the worst possible and cheapest RAM, a worthless $50 CPU, no aftermarket CPU cooler, a cut down middle end GPU like the 1060, no OS, no keyboard, no mouse, no controller, no SSD, crappy hard drive and no games! That sounds great to anyone who knows absolutely ZERO about computers. Another thing, a crappy PC build like that isn't high end(laughable) and doesn't beat the X1X in gaming performance.

50+50+50+(Worst possible RAM would cost around $50 so:) 50+(GTX 1060 on average goes for $250 so:) 250 +(a "crappy" Hard drive, I can imagine its something like $50 so:) 50 = $500, thats a $300 gap from an $800 build, so in conclusion, your math is as shit as your build.

an $800 can easily rape an Xbox ONE X, and I'm not gonna bother showing you examples, you are clearly the clueless one here and as such you are banned (yes BANNED) from giving anyone advise on building a PC, now apologize to everyone.

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#49  Edited By Pcmasterrace69
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@Xplode_games:

I spent 800 on a pc (built from scratch with 1050ti 8gb ddr4 ram g4560 1tb hdd blu ray player and windows 10 from microsoft directly) and even if people put the blu ray drive and buy win10 from kingwin (some keys being fake generated keys that get no support from microsoft since you didnt buy direcly from microsoft)... that would bring down the price to 600+

xbox one x brings 4k drive and runs games a lot better than my pc rig. I only made a pc rig like this thanks to people that teach these rigs online just to attack consoles and I fell like a fool on the budget pc trap...

Ill be buying xbox one x day 1 as I regret buying a cheap pc with promisses of beating consoles easily while one x for 300 less brings both more power and 4k drive (I have a big dvd and blu ray collection and will start my 4k movie collection after getting my one x.

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This loser should stick to consoles, fucking idiot.