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#1 Jamex1987
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/xbox-360...ound-18-article

Skate 2

360 has more stable framerate

360 version
Reduced: 50% of original size [ 1280 x 720 ]

PS3 version
Reduced: 50% of original size [ 1280 x 720 ]





Silent Hill: Incoming

360 is 720p and PS3 is 576p
360 is 50% more detailed than PS3

PS3
Reduced: 50% of original size [ 1280 x 720 ]


360
Reduced: 50% of original size [ 1280 x 720 ]




Need for Speed: Undercover




PS3
Reduced: 50% of original size [ 1280 x 720 ]


360
Reduced: 50% of original size [ 1280 x 720 ]


Quote - In just about every measurable sense, NFS: Undercover is an unsavoury experience on PS3, while on 360 it is, as Kristan said in the original review, 'a reasonably decent game' and while it's too easy, there's enough of the old Most Wanted DNA in there to make it sufficiently entertaining. Certainly its technical credentials are a league above what is on display in the PS3 version.




Tom Clancy's Endwar

Quote - In terms of other differences between the games, there's not a huge amount in it, aside from a whopping great 4.8GB, 12-minute mandatory installation on PS3. Curiously, the 360 game running from the DVD still manages to load faster.


360
Reduced: 33% of original size [ 1920 x 1080 ]


PS3
Reduced: 33% of original size [ 1920 x 1080 ]





Rise of the Argonauts

360 has more anti aliasing

360
Reduced: 50% of original size [ 1280 x 720 ]



PS3
Reduced: 50% of original size [ 1280 x 720 ]

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#2 finalfantasy94
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I dont bother with Euro. Most of the time they notice stuff only if you look real hard. On the skate 2 issue IGN said they run and play the exact same.

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#3 GabeNewellsPie
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Thanks for this.

SH:HC 576p on teh PS3? The power of the cell is showing.

The PS3's hardware is a total joke.I don't care if its theoretically more powerful in certain situations( situations that will never be replicated to give similar realworld performance),the evidence is there for all to see,and to play.

360 FTW.

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#4 BobSacamento
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I dont bother with Euro. Most of the time they notice stuff only if you look real hard. On the skate 2 issue IGN said they run and play the exact same.

finalfantasy94

lol ^^ rationalizaaaations

when you pay $200 more for a console you shouldn't have to "settle" - it should be better

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#5 Giancar
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Thanks for this.

SH:HC 576p on teh PS3? The power of the cell is showing.

The PS3's hardware is a total joke.I don't care if its theoretically more powerful in certain situations( situations that will never be replicated t give similar realworld performance),the evidence is there for all to see,and to play.

360 FTW.

GabeNewellsPie
your sig dissapeared :shock:
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#6 swazidoughman
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Thanks for this.

SH:HC 576p on teh PS3? The power of the cell is showing.

The PS3's hardware is a total joke.I don't care if its theoretically more powerful in certain situations( situations that will never be replicated t give similar realworld performance),the evidence is there for all to see,and to play.

360 FTW.

GabeNewellsPie

The PS3 and 360 are pretty much equal in processing power.

It really all depends on the devs.

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#7 lundy86_4
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Meh who really cares? A few, lackluster games are shown here. Non-descriptive of the awesome library the PS3 offers. Usually this is an issue of Porting from 360 to PS3, as we have seen that porting from PS3 to 360 = very similar multiplats.

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#8 lolfaqs
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So you're saying the 360 got better versions of mediocre multiplats that were built from the ground up on the 360 and ported over to the PS3?

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#9 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Thanks for this.

SH:HC 576p on teh PS3? The power of the cell is showing.

The PS3's hardware is a total joke.I don't care if its theoretically more powerful in certain situations( situations that will never be replicated t give similar realworld performance),the evidence is there for all to see,and to play.

360 FTW.

swazidoughman

The PS3 and 360 are pretty much equal in processing power.

It really all depends on the devs.

This, as his idea doesn't seem to explain some of the fantastic PS3 exclusives. And RE5 on PS3 is pretty much equal with 360. Take your fanboy goggles off lad.

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#10 moose_knuckler
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I saw the PS3 show it's "true" power as everyone claims it has............but then I woke up ;).
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[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Thanks for this.

SH:HC 576p on teh PS3? The power of the cell is showing.

The PS3's hardware is a total joke.I don't care if its theoretically more powerful in certain situations( situations that will never be replicated t give similar realworld performance),the evidence is there for all to see,and to play.

360 FTW.

Giancar

your sig disappeared :shock:

you noticed that to huh? :lol:

I can only really tell (from those stills) that SH looks better on PS3.

I'm not really sure what the intent of this thread is. *shrug*

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#12 Coolio10
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Its obvious by now xbox 360 has better multiplats but some of the statements are suspicious to me.

50% more detail? How do you measure detail in a percentage?

Also "Curiously, the 360 game running from the DVD still manages to load faster. ", which technically makes no sense, but logically possible if the ps3 has problems.

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[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Thanks for this.

SH:HC 576p on teh PS3? The power of the cell is showing.

The PS3's hardware is a total joke.I don't care if its theoretically more powerful in certain situations( situations that will never be replicated t give similar realworld performance),the evidence is there for all to see,and to play.

360 FTW.

Giancar

your sig dissapeared :shock:

Not the first time it happened:lol:

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#14 PAL360
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Nothing new here. Everybody knows that every time a multiplat comes out is ownage day for mighty cell...

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#15 Aku101
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Yes PS3 has can't do good graphics as evidenced by Killzone 2.

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#16 Uptown
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silent hill for 360 has 50% more detail? Am I the only one that thinks the PS3 shot looks better in the comparison? lol

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#17 lundy86_4
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Nothing new here. Everybody knows that every time a multiplat comes out is ownage day for mighty cell...

PAL360

Multiplats built from the ground up on 360 yes... When God created man, did he hand out ignorance by the truck load?

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#18 swazidoughman
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50% more detail? How do you measure detail in a percentage?

Coolio10

Render resolution

Texture resolution

Shadow resolution etc etc.

Although in that picture it doesn't look like the 360 has 50% more detail.

It just looks like it's running at a higher resolution, has slightly better textures/ texture filtering, and it isn't as dark.

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#19 Coolio10
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The PS3 has some multiplats which are better than the xbox 360 ones such as burnout paradise, which proves it depends on the devs not the game.

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#20 GabeNewellsPie
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The PS3 has some multiplats which are better than the xbox 360 ones such as burnout paradise, which proves it depends on the devs not the game.

Coolio10

Burnout paradise is equal on both consoles,this is despite the PS3 being the lead format.

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#21 Cherokee_Jack
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LOL at "Silent Hill: Incoming". Why is it that PS3 multiplats always look so washed out, anyway?
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Meh who really cares? A few, lackluster games are shown here. Non-descriptive of the awesome library the PS3 offers. Usually this is an issue of Porting from 360 to PS3, as we have seen that porting from PS3 to 360 = very similar multiplats.

lundy86_4

are fallout 3, the orange box, F.E.A.R, Rainbow Six Vegas and Lost Planet lackluster games??

those are just the ones off the top of my head with HUGE quality differences - but pretty much all multiplats are just a teensie bit worse on the ps3

and i know it's not that big a deal - it's just you're paying MORE for this crap

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#23 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I dont bother with Euro. Most of the time they notice stuff only if you look real hard. On the skate 2 issue IGN said they run and play the exact same.

BobSacamento

lol ^^ rationalizaaaations

when you pay $200 more for a console you shouldn't have to "settle" - it should be better

What its the truth. IF I must look real hard to see a difference why should I care. Im not going to pause and zoom everytime. I know theres some games that obvioulsy look better on 360,but most of the time the difference are so tiny that you have to look so hard that your not even playing the game anymore.

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#24 BobSacamento
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it's not always just the still frame images

it's the performance - that's whats more important

slowdown and bad load times

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#25 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Nothing new here. Everybody knows that every time a multiplat comes out is ownage day for mighty cell...

lundy86_4

Multiplats built from the ground up on 360 yes... When God created man, did he hand out ignorance by the truck load?

And multiplats built from the ground up on PS3 looks.......the same on both systems! Thats sad considering PS3 is far more expensive and its supposed to be more powerfull.

Anyway....doesnt the fact that most multiplats are and will be developed first to 360 and then ported to PS3 bothers you?

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#26 Master-Thief-09
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The Skate and NFS differences = crime.
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#27 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Meh who really cares? A few, lackluster games are shown here. Non-descriptive of the awesome library the PS3 offers. Usually this is an issue of Porting from 360 to PS3, as we have seen that porting from PS3 to 360 = very similar multiplats.

BobSacamento

are fallout 3, the orange box, F.E.A.R, Rainbow Six Vegas and Lost Planet lackluster games??

those are just the ones off the top of my head with HUGE quality differences - but pretty much allmultiplats are just a teensie bit worse on the ps3

No, that's not true.

and it only takes one to dispel the myth.. and that happen way back in the Oblivion days.

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#28 BobSacamento
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People are still so hung up on the E3 06' promises

the sony playstation 3 - is NOT more powerful, the ram, cpu, and graphics card in the both of them are as close as you can get

people thinking the ps3 is going to like jump through the screen or something, the best you could hope for is a few more textures

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#29 tylergamereview
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[QUOTE="BobSacamento"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Meh who really cares? A few, lackluster games are shown here. Non-descriptive of the awesome library the PS3 offers. Usually this is an issue of Porting from 360 to PS3, as we have seen that porting from PS3 to 360 = very similar multiplats.

are fallout 3, the orange box, F.E.A.R, Rainbow Six Vegas and Lost Planet lackluster games??

those are just the ones off the top of my head with HUGE quality differences - but pretty much all multiplats are just a teensie bit worse on the ps3

and i know it's not that big a deal - it's just you're paying MORE for this crap

I'm pretty sure that he was talking about the games in the comparison. Not the ones with major flaws that were not compared.
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#30 BobSacamento
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[QUOTE="BobSacamento"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Meh who really cares? A few, lackluster games are shown here. Non-descriptive of the awesome library the PS3 offers. Usually this is an issue of Porting from 360 to PS3, as we have seen that porting from PS3 to 360 = very similar multiplats.

FragTycoon

are fallout 3, the orange box, F.E.A.R, Rainbow Six Vegas and Lost Planet lackluster games??

those are just the ones off the top of my head with HUGE quality differences - but pretty much allmultiplats are just a teensie bit worse on the ps3

No, that's not true.

and it only takes one to dispel the myth.. and that happen way back in the Oblivion days.

oblivion got an extra year development on the playstation 3

install oblivion from 05' to the 360 hard drive and it's the same

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#31 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Meh who really cares? A few, lackluster games are shown here. Non-descriptive of the awesome library the PS3 offers. Usually this is an issue of Porting from 360 to PS3, as we have seen that porting from PS3 to 360 = very similar multiplats.

BobSacamento

are fallout 3, the orange box, F.E.A.R, Rainbow Six Vegas and Lost Planet lackluster games??

those are just the ones off the top of my head with HUGE quality differences - but pretty much all multiplats are just a teensie bit worse on the ps3

and i know it's not that big a deal - it's just you're paying MORE for this crap

what is it with people not reading my posts lol. Read again, i'll even bold it for you. Your point still is factual, but it offers some great exclusives, as does the 360, why can't we just enjoy them all instead of being anal and nitpicking. I also use my PS3 as my Blu-Ray player, so the price didn't bother me, as players at the time cost $300 alone

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#32 BobSacamento
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[QUOTE="BobSacamento"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Meh who really cares? A few, lackluster games are shown here. Non-descriptive of the awesome library the PS3 offers. Usually this is an issue of Porting from 360 to PS3, as we have seen that porting from PS3 to 360 = very similar multiplats.

tylergamereview

are fallout 3, the orange box, F.E.A.R, Rainbow Six Vegas and Lost Planet lackluster games??

those are just the ones off the top of my head with HUGE quality differences - but pretty much all multiplats are just a teensie bit worse on the ps3

and i know it's not that big a deal - it's just you're paying MORE for this crap

I'm pretty sure that he was talking about the games in the comparison. Not the ones with major flaws that were not compared.

ah well im just talking in general

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#33 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Nothing new here. Everybody knows that every time a multiplat comes out is ownage day for mighty cell...

PAL360

Multiplats built from the ground up on 360 yes... When God created man, did he hand out ignorance by the truck load?

And multiplats built from the ground up on PS3 looks.......the same on both systems! Thats sad considering PS3 is far more expensive and its supposed to be more powerfull.

Anyway....doesnt the fact that most multiplats are and will be developed first to 360 and then ported to PS3 bothers you?

It's not supposed to be more powerful, even a PS3 hater (or disliker?) bought into the Sony hype. They are both equally powerful, with the PS3 having a much worse design architecture.

No it doesn't bother me as I own a PC, PS3 and 360. I just buy 360/PS3/PC games on PC and immediately I have the better version. However the PS3/360 offer great exclusives, so that makes the PS3 worth the purchase.

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#34 BZSIN
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I get just as much slowdown on the 360 version of Skate 2 as I did on the PS3 version. If you don't install it on the HDD the load times are also longer, but that's due to the mandatory install on the PS3 version. Fully installed on the HDD the load times are pretty much identical. The 360 version definitely looks more vibrant, though.

I know it's nearly a year old, but I've just started playing the 360 version of GTAIV and it's a lot less jaggy than the PS3 version. You especially notice it on the car models. It also seems to be a bit less blurry.

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#35 lundy86_4
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I get just as much slowdown on the 360 version of Skate 2 as I did on the PS3 version. If you don't install it on the HDD the load times are also longer, but that's due to the mandatory install on the PS3 version. Fully installed on the HDD the load times are pretty much identical. The 360 version definitely looks more vibrant, though.

I know it's nearly a year old, but I've just started playing the 360 version of GTAIV and it's a lot less jaggy than the PS3 version. You especially notice it on the car models. It also seems to be a bit less blurry.

BZSIN

In general the 360 has the edge in AA due to the 10mb of eDRAM, which really helps out.

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#36 PoppaGamer
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Funny, most of those posted screens make the PS3 look better. But anyway...
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#37 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Multiplats built from the ground up on 360 yes... When God created man, did he hand out ignorance by the truck load?

lundy86_4

And multiplats built from the ground up on PS3 looks.......the same on both systems! Thats sad considering PS3 is far more expensive and its supposed to be more powerfull.

Anyway....doesnt the fact that most multiplats are and will be developed first to 360 and then ported to PS3 bothers you?

It's not supposed to be more powerful, even a PS3 hater (or disliker?) bought into the Sony hype. They are both equally powerful, with the PS3 having a much worse design architecture.

No it doesn't bother me as I own a PC, PS3 and 360. I just buy 360/PS3/PC games on PC and immediately I have the better version. However the PS3/360 offer great exclusives, so that makes the PS3 worth the purchase.

Yeah...i agree with your post. Of course PS3 has good exclusives but not everyone has deep pockets enough to get all those systems and being harder to develop for is not a good thing for PS3 multiplats.

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#38 SMR-Venom
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The only one that stands out is NFS Undercover and I don't really care about NFS lately...
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#39 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

And multiplats built from the ground up on PS3 looks.......the same on both systems! Thats sad considering PS3 is far more expensive and its supposed to be more powerfull.

Anyway....doesnt the fact that most multiplats are and will be developed first to 360 and then ported to PS3 bothers you?

PAL360

It's not supposed to be more powerful, even a PS3 hater (or disliker?) bought into the Sony hype. They are both equally powerful, with the PS3 having a much worse design architecture.

No it doesn't bother me as I own a PC, PS3 and 360. I just buy 360/PS3/PC games on PC and immediately I have the better version. However the PS3/360 offer great exclusives, so that makes the PS3 worth the purchase.

Yeah...i agree with your post. Of course PS3 has good exclusives but not everyone has deep pockets enough to get all those systems and being harder to develop for is not a good thing for PS3 multiplats.

definately not... I think if developers had the time and money this gen we would see more equal multiplats, but as it stands we don't. PS3 should not be hard to develop for, because that is just a downfall for the end user. This is th exact reason why I own a 360 and PS3, that and for the exclusives they both offer

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#40 BobSacamento
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the ps3 architecture doesnt exactly bode well for business, you know people trying to make money and put out a product

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#41 bdum_pshhh
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silent hill for 360 has 50% more detail? Am I the only one that thinks the PS3 shot looks better in the comparison? lol

Uptown
Nope, I would definitely agree with you on that one. KZ2 is still IMO console graphics benchmark, when the 360 reaches that I'll actually care about these multiplat comparisons.
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#42 jjenkins78x
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So you're saying the 360 got better versions of mediocre multiplats that were built from the ground up on the 360 and ported over to the PS3?

lolfaqs
NOWAI, right? I can't believe it either. The PS3 sucks, that's why their exclusives look like trash.
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#43 killa4lyfe
Member since 2008 • 3849 Posts

Thanks for this.

SH:HC 576p on teh PS3? The power of the cell is showing.

The PS3's hardware is a total joke.I don't care if its theoretically more powerful in certain situations( situations that will never be replicated to give similar realworld performance),the evidence is there for all to see,and to play.

360 FTW.

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yes games like Killzone 2 look crap compared to games like PONG and PAC-MAN ..../sarcasm anyways do u guys notice that the Silent hill photo on PS3 looks better. To me atleast i unno but anyways w.e i still blame the devs for bieng lazy :P
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#44 jjenkins78x
Member since 2009 • 751 Posts

it's not always just the still frame images

it's the performance - that's whats more important

slowdown and bad load times

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People are still so hung up on the E3 06' promises

the sony playstation 3 - is NOT more powerful, the ram, cpu, and graphics card in the both of them are as close as you can get

people thinking the ps3 is going to like jump through the screen or something, the best you could hope for is a few more textures

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Dude. Kramer's buddy? Bob SacaMANO. Tsk tsk.
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#45 mixmax5
Member since 2006 • 2347 Posts

Oh shnap!

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#46 Shattered007
Member since 2007 • 3139 Posts

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Thanks for this.

SH:HC 576p on teh PS3? The power of the cell is showing.

The PS3's hardware is a total joke.I don't care if its theoretically more powerful in certain situations( situations that will never be replicated t give similar realworld performance),the evidence is there for all to see,and to play.

360 FTW.

lundy86_4

The PS3 and 360 are pretty much equal in processing power.

It really all depends on the devs.

This, as his idea doesn't seem to explain some of the fantastic PS3 exclusives. And RE5 on PS3 is pretty much equal with 360. Take your fanboy goggles off lad.

You sir are eighter lying or don't know what you are talking about. No, RE5 is not equal on the PS3 as on the 360. Twas the reason when I traded in Killzone 2 yesterday, I orignally wanted it for the PS3 (So, I wouldn't go back down to 1 PS3 game again) but the manditory 4+ gig install, the "Small but noticable" texture differents and the more stable/framerate differents between the them forced my hand. Will I'm disapponted in the continuing poor showing of the PS3 mutilplats, I'm not mad because my PS3 was free!

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#47 lolfaqs
Member since 2009 • 1776 Posts

Speaking of Silent Hill: Homecoming, why do Xbots hype Alan Wake so much? It looks graphically on par with Silent Hill: Homecoming, IMO.

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#48 Shattered007
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Speaking of Silent Hill: Homecoming, why do Xbots hype Alan Wake so much? It looks graphically on par with Silent Hill: Homecoming, IMO.

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#49 Hitman533
Member since 2008 • 642 Posts

[QUOTE="Coolio10"]

The PS3 has some multiplats which are better than the xbox 360 ones such as burnout paradise, which proves it depends on the devs not the game.

GabeNewellsPie

Burnout paradise is equal on both consoles,this is despite the PS3 being the lead format.

Dead Space is higher on PS3 than the 360 in gamerankings.com and so does GTAIV, now explain that to me? Have fun playing your crappy games just because they look 50% better doesn't make them good games.
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#50 Shattered007
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[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

[QUOTE="Coolio10"]

The PS3 has some multiplats which are better than the xbox 360 ones such as burnout paradise, which proves it depends on the devs not the game.

Hitman533

Burnout paradise is equal on both consoles,this is despite the PS3 being the lead format.

Dead Space is higher on PS3 than the 360 in gamerankings.com and so does GTAIV, now explain that to me? Have fun playing your crappy games just because they look 50% better doesn't make them good games.

What.... LOL, with the Killzone 2 avater you say that!

GTAIV is rated lower on the PC then it's console counterpart yet it's the best looking outta all three. Oh and it plays better on my PC then it did on the PS3 and 360. So, there goes your logic!