{Trophies vs Achievements}

Achievements came first, I'll give MS that much. However, trophies are better. Unlike simply accumulating a number like achievements, trophies have different levels and they give you a bigger since of accomplishment. If you have a lot of platinum trophies, people will know you're a hardcore completionist cause you have to get all the other trophies in the gameto get one. If you have a large gamerscore, people have no way of knowing if you completed games 100 percent, or if you just half-assed a collection of 100+ games unless they throughly check your achievements list. Trophies>>Achievements IMO, what do you guys think based on what I said.

Trophies pwn achievements for me because I don't have a 360. :P

They're the same damn thing! :evil:

Trophies.

It's time for the weekly Achievements vs Trophies thread already? Wow, time flies.

On topic: They're the same, only implemented in different ways, although Achievements are better integrated IMO.

They're the same damn thing! :evil:

Shad0ki11

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

They're the same damn thing! :evil:

nethernova

they are the same thing and both are equally worthlessshadow_hosi

On the contrary, Sony has stated that they plan to make DLC and other content available for free for players with a certain level, therefor making them not really worthless ;)

[QUOTE="nethernova"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

They're the same damn thing! :evil:

angelkimne

I see where you'recoming from, but a platinum trophy instant shows you're a completionist. Comparinga list and seeing 50/50 achievements just isn't the same as seeing as seeing a nice shiny platinum trophy on your profile. :)

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]they are the same thing and both are equally worthlessSonyIsh6Fotta

On the contrary, Sony has stated that they plan to make DLC and other content available for free for players with a certain level, therefor making them not really worthless ;)

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="nethernova"] He already explained some differences. It's not hard to understand, is it? You can get 10000 gamerscore by playing 10000 games getting 1 point in each. But you only get a platinum trophy for completely finishing a game. Therefore I also prefer trophies.-Ichigo1987-

I see where you'recoming from, but a platinum trophy instant shows you're a completionist. Comparinga list and seeing 50/50 achievements just isn't the same as seeing as seeing a nice shiny platinum trophy on your profile. :)

[QUOTE="SonyIsh6Fotta"]

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]they are the same thing and both are equally worthlessshadow_hosi

On the contrary, Sony has stated that they plan to make DLC and other content available for free for players with a certain level, therefor making them not really worthless ;)

Uhh excuse me but, I don't see how giving someone something for free, you otherwise have to pay for worthless :|

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="SonyIsh6Fotta"]

On the contrary, Sony has stated that they plan to make DLC and other content available for free for players with a certain level, therefor making them not really worthless ;)

SonyIsh6Fotta

Uhh excuse me but, I don't see how giving someone something for free, you otherwise have to pay for worthless :|

Achievements came first, I'll give MS that much. However, trophies are better. Unlike simply accumulating a number like achievements, trophies have different levels and they give you a bigger since of accomplishment. If you have a lot of platinum trophies, people will know you're a hardcore completionist cause you have to get all the other trophies in the gameto get one. If you have a large gamerscore, people have no way of knowing if you completed games 100 percent, or if you just half-assed a collection of 100+ games unless they throughly check your achievements list. Trophies>>Achievements IMO, what do you guys think based on what I said.

-Ichigo1987-

Everythign is incorrect. You can look and see what games someone has completed. It even tells you which games you've got 1000/1000 on the first achivement screen before it breaks each game down.

It's not just a number. like trophies you get a visual representation of each achivement. It's been like this since day one.

Obviously you have spent no time with an Xbox.

As they're exactly the same, except Achievements are better implemented.

I like the presentation of trophies better, but aside from the presentationit is pretty much the same and in the end I personally care for neither. I don't need the digital equivalent of a sticker as a reward for playing games. I play games because I like them, not to show other people how many I've played and how good I am.

meh

If you were a true gamer you would realise that trophies are superior. Sony took the basic idea from M$ but made it 10x better. It's not like Sony are the only company to do this, M$ copied loads of things from Sony in the past, like controller designs, analogue sticks and online gaming.PS_John

Hey it's you! :lol:

Love your sig!

If you were a true gamer you would realise that trophies are superior. Sony took the basic idea from M$ but made it 10x better. It's not like Sony are the only company to do this, M$ copied loads of things from Sony in the past, like controller designs, analogue sticks and online gaming.PS_John

I find it funny that for years in SW, PS3 fanboys stated achievements were worthless and how they didn't need or want them on the PS3. All of a sudden, trophies are the greatest thing since sliced bread, better, Better, BETTER than achievements. IMO, trophies seemed tacked on, while achievements are better integrated.Either way, neither of them influence how I play a game or what games I buy.

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]they are the same thing and both are equally worthlessSonyIsh6Fotta

On the contrary, Sony has stated that they plan to make DLC and other content available for free for players with a certain level, therefor making them not really worthless ;)

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]they are the same thing and both are equally worthlessSonyIsh6Fotta

On the contrary, Sony has stated that they plan to make DLC and other content available for free for players with a certain level, therefor making them not really worthless ;)

I find it funny that for years in SW, PS3 fanboys stated achievements were worthless and how they didn't need or want them on the PS3. All of a sudden, trophies are the greatest thing since sliced bread, better, Better, BETTER than achievements. IMO, trophies seemed tacked on, while achievements are better integrated.tbolt76

I find it funny that for years in SW, PS3 fanboys stated achievements were worthless and how they didn't need or want them on the PS3. All of a sudden, trophies are the greatest thing since sliced bread, better, Better, BETTER than achievements. IMO, trophies seemed tacked on, while achievements are better integrated. [QUOTE="SonyIsh6Fotta"] With the latest NXE update, games will give unlockable items for your avatar for getting achievements. tbolt76

Do you really think developers will create custom content to use as free DLC? The free stuff will be for Home, just like the free stuff on 360 is for the avatar. If you think otherwise, you have been sipping to much of that Sony Kool-Aid .

You obviously have never played on a PS3 before. I have first hand experience of both and like many other people I find thophies better and funner.

On a side note.. A mod must be going through my old posts or something. I got modded for a post made over a year ago lol.

Apparently I was using 'Using sexual orientation as an insult' by saying 'OMG fgs!' (Oh my God for god sake) Um ok!PS_John

I own a PS3. So, yes I have played the PS3 and have gotten a couple of trophies. Funny how they didn't make me feel better about myself. Also funny is that a person that calls themself "PS_John" prefers Sony to anything else, even if they were late and the feature was tacked on and half a@#ed.

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]they are the same thing and both are equally worthlessSonyIsh6Fotta

On the contrary, Sony has stated that they plan to make DLC and other content available for free for players with a certain level, therefor making them not really worthless ;)

[QUOTE="tbolt76"]I find it funny that for years in SW, PS3 fanboys stated achievements were worthless and how they didn't need or want them on the PS3. All of a sudden, trophies are the greatest thing since sliced bread, better, Better, BETTER than achievements. IMO, trophies seemed tacked on, while achievements are better integrated.PS_John

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="tbolt76"] With the latest NXE update, games will give unlockable items for your avatar for getting achievements. tbolt76

Do you really think developers will create custom content to use as free DLC? The free stuff will be for Home, just like the free stuff on 360 is for the avatar. If you think otherwise, you have been sipping to much of that Sony Kool-Aid .

[QUOTE="tbolt76"]

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] avatars are also retarded and is simply an attempt to sell games (avatar items are going to be far less popular however then contend from the ps3 stuff (unless its just junk for home))shadow_hosi

Do you really think developers will create custom content to use as free DLC? The free stuff will be for Home, just like the free stuff on 360 is for the avatar. If you think otherwise, you have been sipping to much of that Sony Kool-Aid .

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="tbolt76"]

Do you really think developers will create custom content to use as free DLC? The free stuff will be for Home, just like the free stuff on 360 is for the avatar. If you think otherwise, you have been sipping to much of that Sony Kool-Aid .

tbolt76

There are no experts on this subject on the matter, just a bunch of folks with an opinion, save for a few in this thread.

I can tell you how many retail games I've fully 100% completed in a glance on PS3 by way of Platinums, I can't do the same for 360 (There is a combo score, but no retail only Plat type of assessment)...HOWEVER, the 360 implemented better by being in every game, whereas Trophies are in all new games, and older games only if patched.

It's a trade off.

I wish that the 360 had a checkmark or something to let me know how many 1000/1000 I got, and since Sony copied Achievements, M$ should copy Sony's Platinum concept...but they can call it Gold Stars or Checkmarks, I don't care.

Running through my my 360 gaming list with a pen and paper just to know how many are 1000 isn't as good as a glance.

Fanboy's will just talk, but I've got a TON of experience in both set ups.

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Overall, they are the same thing, since Sony copied Achievements, they add neat things like a PSN level, Platinums, and such, but it all boils down to the same thing.

There are no experts on this subject on the matter, just a bunch of folks with an opinion.

I can tell you how many games I've fully 100% completed in a glance on PS3, I can't do the same for 360...HOWEVER, the 360 implemented better by being in every game, whereas Trophies are in all new games, and older games only if patched.

It's a trade off.

I wish that the 360 had a checkmark or something to let me know how many 1000/1000 I got, and since Sony copied Achievements, M$ should copy Sony's Platinum concept...but they can call it Gold Stars or Checkmarks, I don't care.

Running through my my 360 gaming list with a pen and paper just to know how many are 1000 isn't as good as a glance.

Fanboy's will just talk, but I've got a TON of experience in both set ups.

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Overall, they are the same thing, since Sony copied Achievements, they add neat things like a PSN level, Platinums, and such, but it all boils down to the same thing.

SolidTy

For a guy who supposedly plays the 360 a lot your missing a lot of info on it. I've had mine for about a month and evemn i can tell you it DOES have a page dedicated to showing games you've got 1000/1000 at a glance. It's not hard to find either. You get a special emblem for each games you've completed.

There are no experts on this subject on the matter, just a bunch of folks with an opinion.

I can tell you how many games I've fully 100% completed in a glance on PS3, I can't do the same for 360...HOWEVER, the 360 implemented better by being in every game, whereas Trophies are in all new games, and older games only if patched.

It's a trade off.

I wish that the 360 had a checkmark or something to let me know how many 1000/1000 I got, and since Sony copied Achievements, M$ should copy Sony's Platinum concept...but they can call it Gold Stars or Checkmarks, I don't care.

Running through my my 360 gaming list with a pen and paper just to know how many are 1000 isn't as good as a glance.

Fanboy's will just talk, but I've got a TON of experience in both set ups.

SolidTy

There are no experts on this subject on the matter, just a bunch of folks with an opinion.

I can tell you how many games I've fully 100% completed in a glance on PS3, I can't do the same for 360...HOWEVER, the 360 implemented better by being in every game, whereas Trophies are in all new games, and older games only if patched.

It's a trade off.

I wish that the 360 had a checkmark or something to let me know how many 1000/1000 I got, and since Sony copied Achievements, M$ should copy Sony's Platinum concept...but they can call it Gold Stars or Checkmarks, I don't care.

Running through my my 360 gaming list with a pen and paper just to know how many are 1000 isn't as good as a glance.

Fanboy's will just talk, but I've got a TON of experience in both set ups.

SolidTy

I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned www.mygamercard.net.... Everybody has a profile with stats. For example, my stats:
Completed XBLA: 38 / 80
Completed Retail: 66 / 165
GS Completion %: 68.89%
Country Rank: 452
World Rank: 1,075
Completion Rank: 782

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

There are no experts on this subject on the matter, just a bunch of folks with an opinion.

I can tell you how many games I've fully 100% completed in a glance on PS3, I can't do the same for 360...HOWEVER, the 360 implemented better by being in every game, whereas Trophies are in all new games, and older games only if patched.

It's a trade off.

I wish that the 360 had a checkmark or something to let me know how many 1000/1000 I got, and since Sony copied Achievements, M$ should copy Sony's Platinum concept...but they can call it Gold Stars or Checkmarks, I don't care.

Running through my my 360 gaming list with a pen and paper just to know how many are 1000 isn't as good as a glance.

Fanboy's will just talk, but I've got a TON of experience in both set ups.

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Overall, they are the same thing, since Sony copied Achievements, they add neat things like a PSN level, Platinums, and such, but it all boils down to the same thing.

Stats_

For a guy who supposedly plays the 360 a lot your missing a lot of info on it. I've had mine for about a month and evemn i can tell you it DOES have a page dedicated to showing games you've got 1000/1000 at a glance. It's not hard to find either. You get a special emblem for each games you've completed.

Supposedly?

What do I have to do, get 200,000 to get the word Supposedly removed? Jeebus.

A page dedicated only goes so far, that means you need to scroll...look at my sig. It's very simple. I'm not talking stats, I'm talking a very simple readout.

And yeah, you're a relatively new GS member, and you just got a 360 recently...gotcha. I won't blow your cover. ;)

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

There are no experts on this subject on the matter, just a bunch of folks with an opinion.

I can tell you how many games I've fully 100% completed in a glance on PS3, I can't do the same for 360...HOWEVER, the 360 implemented better by being in every game, whereas Trophies are in all new games, and older games only if patched.

It's a trade off.

I wish that the 360 had a checkmark or something to let me know how many 1000/1000 I got, and since Sony copied Achievements, M$ should copy Sony's Platinum concept...but they can call it Gold Stars or Checkmarks, I don't care.

Running through my my 360 gaming list with a pen and paper just to know how many are 1000 isn't as good as a glance.

Fanboy's will just talk, but I've got a TON of experience in both set ups.

him42

I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned www.mygamercard.net.... Everybody has a profile with stats. For example, my stats:
Completed XBLA: 38 / 80
Completed Retail: 66 / 165
GS Completion %: 68.89%
Country Rank: 452
World Rank: 1,075
Completion Rank: 782

Now, we are getting into internet computer stuff, not to mention you can do that with PS3trophycard.com, and various sites for both systems.
You're missing my point.

Look at my sig.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

There are no experts on this subject on the matter, just a bunch of folks with an opinion.

I can tell you how many games I've fully 100% completed in a glance on PS3, I can't do the same for 360...HOWEVER, the 360 implemented better by being in every game, whereas Trophies are in all new games, and older games only if patched.

It's a trade off.

I wish that the 360 had a checkmark or something to let me know how many 1000/1000 I got, and since Sony copied Achievements, M$ should copy Sony's Platinum concept...but they can call it Gold Stars or Checkmarks, I don't care.

Running through my my 360 gaming list with a pen and paper just to know how many are 1000 isn't as good as a glance.

Fanboy's will just talk, but I've got a TON of experience in both set ups.

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Overall, they are the same thing, since Sony copied Achievements, they add neat things like a PSN level, Platinums, and such, but it all boils down to the same thing.

SolidTy

For a guy who supposedly plays the 360 a lot your missing a lot of info on it. I've had mine for about a month and evemn i can tell you it DOES have a page dedicated to showing games you've got 1000/1000 at a glance. It's not hard to find either. You get a special emblem for each games you've completed.

Supposedly?

What do I have to do, get 200,000 to get the word Supposedly removed? Jeebus.

A page dedicated only goes so far, that means you need to scroll...look at my sig. It's very simple.

And yeah, you're a relatively new GS member, and you jsut got a 360 recently...gotcha. I won't blow your cover. ;)

Well your gamercard hasn't changed since i joined, neither has your gamerscore. For a guy who plays so much that's strange ...

A page dedicated does the job perfectly. Why would you have to go through with a note pad and write which ones down when all you have to do is click one button?

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

There are no experts on this subject on the matter, just a bunch of folks with an opinion.

I can tell you how many games I've fully 100% completed in a glance on PS3, I can't do the same for 360...HOWEVER, the 360 implemented better by being in every game, whereas Trophies are in all new games, and older games only if patched.

It's a trade off.

I wish that the 360 had a checkmark or something to let me know how many 1000/1000 I got, and since Sony copied Achievements, M$ should copy Sony's Platinum concept...but they can call it Gold Stars or Checkmarks, I don't care.

Running through my my 360 gaming list with a pen and paper just to know how many are 1000 isn't as good as a glance.

Fanboy's will just talk, but I've got a TON of experience in both set ups.

WilliamRLBaker

I know, I've had 2 xbox 360's since 2005. I don't know where you are going with this, but try to imagine having 97,000 Gamerscore and scrolling through trying to pick out the 1000's.

My whole point was stated above, it's a conceptual point.

Well your gamercard hasn't changed since i joined, neither has your gamerscore. For a guy who plays so much that's strange ...

A page dedicated does the job perfectly. Why would you have to go through with a note pad and write which ones down when all you have to do is click one button?

Stats_

Huh? That age old arguement again? I got Shadow Complex Achievements, what the, you are obviously not paying much attention, as I had 97,000 and now I have 97,600.

Funny thing is, I you said the same thing when I was at 85,000, it's a waste of time trying to keep up with all the new accounts that claim the strangest things...with no backing of their own. Real legitimate.

Anyways, this must be hard for you to grasp, but I've slowed down on 360 gaming, since so many PS3 games have come out, and my trophies could use a boost.

Obviously, my Gamerscore is high enough to destroy all in my FL, but my PS3 Trophies are not.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

There are no experts on this subject on the matter, just a bunch of folks with an opinion.

I can tell you how many games I've fully 100% completed in a glance on PS3, I can't do the same for 360...HOWEVER, the 360 implemented better by being in every game, whereas Trophies are in all new games, and older games only if patched.

It's a trade off.

I wish that the 360 had a checkmark or something to let me know how many 1000/1000 I got, and since Sony copied Achievements, M$ should copy Sony's Platinum concept...but they can call it Gold Stars or Checkmarks, I don't care.

Running through my my 360 gaming list with a pen and paper just to know how many are 1000 isn't as good as a glance.

Fanboy's will just talk, but I've got a TON of experience in both set ups.

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Overall, they are the same thing, since Sony copied Achievements, they add neat things like a PSN level, Platinums, and such, but it all boils down to the same thing.

SolidTy

For a guy who supposedly plays the 360 a lot your missing a lot of info on it. I've had mine for about a month and evemn i can tell you it DOES have a page dedicated to showing games you've got 1000/1000 at a glance. It's not hard to find either. You get a special emblem for each games you've completed.

Supposedly?

What do I have to do, get 200,000 to get the word Supposedly removed? Jeebus.

A page dedicated only goes so far, that means you need to scroll...look at my sig. It's very simple. I'm not talking stats, I'm talking a very simple readout.

And yeah, you're a relatively new GS member, and you just got a 360 recently...gotcha. I won't blow your cover. ;)

It's not a big issue. You can always just simply click on the persons gamertag to view all the games that he has completed.

Same crap to me. I just have more trophies because I play my ps3 more.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

Well your gamercard hasn't changed since i joined, neither has your gamerscore. For a guy who plays so much that's strange ...

A page dedicated does the job perfectly. Why would you have to go through with a note pad and write which ones down when all you have to do is click one button?

SolidTy

Huh? That age old arguement again? I got Shadow Complex Achievements, what the, you are obviously not paying much attention, as I had 97,000 and now I have 97,600.

Funny thing is, I you said the same thing when I was at 85,000, it's a waste of time trying to keep up with all the new accounts that claim the strangest things...with no backing of their own. Real legitimate.

Anyways, this must be hard for you to grasp, but I've slowed down on 360 gaming, since so many PS3 games have come out, and my trophies could use a boost.

Obviously, my Gamerscore is high enough to destroy all in my FL, but my PS3 Trophies are not.

Are you claiming this isn't my first account? Lmao, mind telling me what my other was?

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

For a guy who supposedly plays the 360 a lot your missing a lot of info on it. I've had mine for about a month and evemn i can tell you it DOES have a page dedicated to showing games you've got 1000/1000 at a glance. It's not hard to find either. You get a special emblem for each games you've completed.

SpinoRaptor24

Supposedly?

What do I have to do, get 200,000 to get the word Supposedly removed? Jeebus.

A page dedicated only goes so far, that means you need to scroll...look at my sig. It's very simple. I'm not talking stats, I'm talking a very simple readout.

And yeah, you're a relatively new GS member, and you just got a 360 recently...gotcha. I won't blow your cover. ;)

It's not a big issue. You can always just simply click on the persons gamertag to view all the games that he has completed.

I agree with you. :) It's not a big issue at all.

Apparently If you have a well informed opinion and expertise on a subject, the some of the "NEW-ACCOUNT-GameSpot members" are not too happy about my post, and want to make it well known.

Reading my initial post, you can see that I agree with you.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

Well your gamercard hasn't changed since i joined, neither has your gamerscore. For a guy who plays so much that's strange ...

A page dedicated does the job perfectly. Why would you have to go through with a note pad and write which ones down when all you have to do is click one button?

Stats_

Huh? That age old arguement again? I got Shadow Complex Achievements, what the, you are obviously not paying much attention, as I had 97,000 and now I have 97,600.

Funny thing is, I you said the same thing when I was at 85,000, it's a waste of time trying to keep up with all the new accounts that claim the strangest things...with no backing of their own. Real legitimate.

Anyways, this must be hard for you to grasp, but I've slowed down on 360 gaming, since so many PS3 games have come out, and my trophies could use a boost.

Obviously, my Gamerscore is high enough to destroy all in my FL, but my PS3 Trophies are not.

Are you claiming this isn't my first account? Lmao, mind telling me what my other was?

Look, you obviously are wrong, as I have Shadow Complex Achievements, and you have been with this account in GS since at least before SComplex came out.

As far as Strange, you are thinking one sidedly, which is strange for someone claiming to have just recently aquired a 360, but had a PS3.

If that's the case, then you would understand there are TWO communities to keep up with, and it's not strange at all to get Trophies over Achievements OR Achievements over Trophies.

In 2005, I made a goal to get 50,000 Gamerscore...when I hit that, I made a goal to get 100,000 GS.

In 2008, I made a PS3 goal to get 25 Platinums, Level 15. I don't understand how this is hard to grasp...UNLESS you are a 360 guy that only values one system over the other.

I've got Plenty of Achievements, so if I exercise my right to slow down to aquire Trophies, what's the problem?

You claiming it was strange, was well, strange. It's not hard to follow, right?

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Supposedly?

What do I have to do, get 200,000 to get the word Supposedly removed? Jeebus.

A page dedicated only goes so far, that means you need to scroll...look at my sig. It's very simple. I'm not talking stats, I'm talking a very simple readout.

And yeah, you're a relatively new GS member, and you just got a 360 recently...gotcha. I won't blow your cover. ;)

SolidTy

It's not a big issue. You can always just simply click on the persons gamertag to view all the games that he has completed.

I agree with you. :) It's not a big issue at all.

Apparently If you have a well informed opinion and expertise on a subject, the some of the "NEW-ACCOUNT-GameSpot members" are not too happy about my post, and want to make it well known.

Reading my initial post, you can see that I agree with you.

Your opinion is no more informed then anyone else who has used an Xbox. Just because you play a lot of games, dosen't mean you know any more of the dashboard then anyone else. It just means your prioritse games over other things.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Huh? That age old arguement again? I got Shadow Complex Achievements, what the, you are obviously not paying much attention, as I had 97,000 and now I have 97,600.

Funny thing is, I you said the same thing when I was at 85,000, it's a waste of time trying to keep up with all the new accounts that claim the strangest things...with no backing of their own. Real legitimate.

Anyways, this must be hard for you to grasp, but I've slowed down on 360 gaming, since so many PS3 games have come out, and my trophies could use a boost.

Obviously, my Gamerscore is high enough to destroy all in my FL, but my PS3 Trophies are not.

SolidTy

Are you claiming this isn't my first account? Lmao, mind telling me what my other was?

As far as Strange, you are thinking one sidedly, which is strange for someone claiming to have just recently aquired a 360, but had a PS3.

One sided? How so? I said they're the same, except Achievements are better implemented. You're being one sided, in claiming the "difficulty" in seeing which games you've completed.