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#1 Deadlyrain92
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i pick lion heart
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#2 Soulja_West
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#3 iam_the_ONE
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lion heart
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#4 Nimroc
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Lion Heart
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#5 svchaos
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#7 xVxObliVioNxVx
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Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.
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#8 Nimroc
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Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.xVxObliVioNxVx

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

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[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.Nimroc

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

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#10 Nimroc
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[QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.xVxObliVioNxVx

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

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#11 master_of_yore
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Lion Heart.
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#12 xVxObliVioNxVx
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[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.Nimroc

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

maybe they named it that on purpose, considering that sephiroth lost his sword after doing some evil acts. He was a hero afterall.

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#13 Nimroc
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[QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.xVxObliVioNxVx

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

maybe they named it that on purpose, considering that sephiroth lost his sword after doing some evil acts. He was a hero afterall.

How come that Cloud uses Murasame then, because I remember reading that name among the names on his weapons in some guides about FFVII :)

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[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.Nimroc

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

maybe they named it that on purpose, considering that sephiroth lost his sword after doing some evil acts. He was a hero afterall.

How come that Cloud uses Murasame then, because I remember reading that name among the names on his weapons in some guides about FFVII :)

I must have it because I have aquired all of his weapons. But Murasame is not Clouds main sword. But I think they gave the sword to cloud because many times in the game Cloud would resemble Sephiroths evil shadow.

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#15 naz18h
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tough...but i choose Lion Heart
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#18 ex-centrick
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the lion heart
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#19 deactivated-58ea6d14ed786
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Dont u mean Masamune? if not, then Lionheart
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#20 phazonsamus
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Lion Heart all the way
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#22 omegaschamp09
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Dude the lion heart limit break is too good to pass up
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#23 omegaschamp09
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Oh and if you didnt know. Lion heart Means End of heart.
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#24 svchaos
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it probably is murasame that theyre talking about
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stupid glich

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#26 jtrox
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im going to say lion heart. the ultimate from of a weapon that only 2 people have mastered. yeah id have to say lion heart.
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Lion heart no doubt
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#28 MC_RaZaR
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Oh and if you didnt know. Lion heart Means End of heart.omegaschamp09

Lion Heart doesn't really mean End of Heart. In Final Fantasy VIII Japanese version, Squall's weapon was called Lion Heart. However, his last Limit Break was called End of Heart instead of Lion Heart. When Square translated everything for NA and EU versions, they decided to name his final Limit Break Lion Heart and they left the name of the weapon as Lion Heart.

Anyways, my favorite is LionHeart. It looks cool. There are too many versions of the Murasame and I don't know how it looks like.

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lionheart.

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LIONHEART!
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#34 DarkZero5
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I gotta go with the Lionheart.
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~MURASAME~
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#38 Brett_Eversole
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The Lionheart. I've never been a fan of katanas. I'd take a tai chi sword over either of them. The object of the game is to stab/slice your opponent, so why use some heavy *** blade, ya know?
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[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.Nimroc

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

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[QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.ffsage

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

Well Muramasa or Murasame or whatever fits Sephiroth much better than Masamune because when it is drawn it has to shed blood before it is placed back

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[QUOTE="ffsage"][QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.Nimroc

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

Well Muramasa or Murasame or whatever fits Sephiroth much better than Masamune because when it is drawn it has to shed blood before it is placed back

I don't think it would fit Sephiroth much better. According to japanese legends, the Murasame is a blood thirsty sword while the Masamune is a peaceful sword.

Sephiroth was a hero before he went insane, so the Masamune fitted him well. However, when he began killing the villagers with that sword, the last two people that the sword stabbed through is Zack and Cloud. When Cloud got stabbed by the sword he used the sword to throw Sephiroth into the mako field. Cloud was able to throw Sephiroth with the strength of the sword, this would suggest that it was the will of the sword to not be with its master anymore.

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#42 Nimroc
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[QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="ffsage"][QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.xVxObliVioNxVx

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

Well Muramasa or Murasame or whatever fits Sephiroth much better than Masamune because when it is drawn it has to shed blood before it is placed back

I don't think it would fit Sephiroth much better. According to japanese legends, the Murasame is a blood thirsty sword while the Masamune is a peaceful sword.

Sephiroth was a hero before he went insane, so the Masamune fitted him well. However, when he began killing the villagers with that sword, the last two people that the sword stabbed through is Zack and Cloud. When Cloud got stabbed by the sword he used the sword to throw Sephiroth into the mako field. Cloud was able to throw Sephiroth with the strength of the sword, this would suggest that it was the will of the sword to not be with its master anymore.

The thing is that he became a hero by killing people

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[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="ffsage"][QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.Nimroc

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

Well Muramasa or Murasame or whatever fits Sephiroth much better than Masamune because when it is drawn it has to shed blood before it is placed back

I don't think it would fit Sephiroth much better. According to japanese legends, the Murasame is a blood thirsty sword while the Masamune is a peaceful sword.

Sephiroth was a hero before he went insane, so the Masamune fitted him well. However, when he began killing the villagers with that sword, the last two people that the sword stabbed through is Zack and Cloud. When Cloud got stabbed by the sword he used the sword to throw Sephiroth into the mako field. Cloud was able to throw Sephiroth with the strength of the sword, this would suggest that it was the will of the sword to not be with its master anymore.

The thing is that he became a hero by killing people

evil people, the masamune can be used since it is a weapon but only against evil

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#44 Nimroc
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[QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="ffsage"][QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.xVxObliVioNxVx

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

Well Muramasa or Murasame or whatever fits Sephiroth much better than Masamune because when it is drawn it has to shed blood before it is placed back

I don't think it would fit Sephiroth much better. According to japanese legends, the Murasame is a blood thirsty sword while the Masamune is a peaceful sword.

Sephiroth was a hero before he went insane, so the Masamune fitted him well. However, when he began killing the villagers with that sword, the last two people that the sword stabbed through is Zack and Cloud. When Cloud got stabbed by the sword he used the sword to throw Sephiroth into the mako field. Cloud was able to throw Sephiroth with the strength of the sword, this would suggest that it was the will of the sword to not be with its master anymore.

The thing is that he became a hero by killing people

evil people, the masamune can be used since it is a weapon but only against evil

so you call the people of Wutai evil people

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[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="ffsage"][QUOTE="Nimroc"][QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"][QUOTE="Nimroc"]

[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.Nimroc

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

Well Muramasa or Murasame or whatever fits Sephiroth much better than Masamune because when it is drawn it has to shed blood before it is placed back

I don't think it would fit Sephiroth much better. According to japanese legends, the Murasame is a blood thirsty sword while the Masamune is a peaceful sword.

Sephiroth was a hero before he went insane, so the Masamune fitted him well. However, when he began killing the villagers with that sword, the last two people that the sword stabbed through is Zack and Cloud. When Cloud got stabbed by the sword he used the sword to throw Sephiroth into the mako field. Cloud was able to throw Sephiroth with the strength of the sword, this would suggest that it was the will of the sword to not be with its master anymore.

The thing is that he became a hero by killing people

evil people, the masamune can be used since it is a weapon but only against evil

so you call the people of Wutai evil people

a few can be. :P Though they did fight the war against shinra, it never was said that Sephiroth participated in fighting the people of Wutai. The stories of Sephiroth that are heard while playing the game are about him killing great powerful beasts and monsters.:)

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[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.xVxObliVioNxVx

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

Well Muramasa or Murasame or whatever fits Sephiroth much better than Masamune because when it is drawn it has to shed blood before it is placed back

I don't think it would fit Sephiroth much better. According to japanese legends, the Murasame is a blood thirsty sword while the Masamune is a peaceful sword.

Sephiroth was a hero before he went insane, so the Masamune fitted him well. However, when he began killing the villagers with that sword, the last two people that the sword stabbed through is Zack and Cloud. When Cloud got stabbed by the sword he used the sword to throw Sephiroth into the mako field. Cloud was able to throw Sephiroth with the strength of the sword, this would suggest that it was the will of the sword to not be with its master anymore.

The thing is that he became a hero by killing people

evil people, the masamune can be used since it is a weapon but only against evil

so you call the people of Wutai evil people

a few can be. :P Though they did fight the war against shinra, it never was said that Sephiroth participated in fighting the people of Wutai. The stories of Sephiroth that are heard while playing the game are about him killing great powerful beasts and monsters.:)

And beasts and monsters is necessary evil you mean ?

The thing is that Masamune is supossed to scare the enemy more than kill them

One example is a story I have read where Masamune and Murasame/Muramasa is both used againts a leaf that is in the air.

Masamune got the leaf to soar away from the blade while Murasame/Muramasa cleaved the leaf in two.

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[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.Nimroc

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

Well Muramasa or Murasame or whatever fits Sephiroth much better than Masamune because when it is drawn it has to shed blood before it is placed back

I don't think it would fit Sephiroth much better. According to japanese legends, the Murasame is a blood thirsty sword while the Masamune is a peaceful sword.

Sephiroth was a hero before he went insane, so the Masamune fitted him well. However, when he began killing the villagers with that sword, the last two people that the sword stabbed through is Zack and Cloud. When Cloud got stabbed by the sword he used the sword to throw Sephiroth into the mako field. Cloud was able to throw Sephiroth with the strength of the sword, this would suggest that it was the will of the sword to not be with its master anymore.

The thing is that he became a hero by killing people

evil people, the masamune can be used since it is a weapon but only against evil

so you call the people of Wutai evil people

a few can be. :P Though they did fight the war against shinra, it never was said that Sephiroth participated in fighting the people of Wutai. The stories of Sephiroth that are heard while playing the game are about him killing great powerful beasts and monsters.:)

And beasts and monsters is necessary evil you mean ?

The thing is that Masamune is supossed to scare the enemy more than kill them

One example is a story I have read where Masamune and Murasame/Muramasa is both used againts a leaf that is in the air.

Masamune got the leaf to soar away from the blade while Murasame/Muramasa cleaved the leaf in two.

I would assume that they are evil since they choose to kill those they come into contact with.

I have heard a similar story, but instead of the leaf and the swords being in the air it was in water or a river, and the same thing happened just as you said.

I don't think that this would mean that the sword scared its enemies away. I think that the sword chose to be merciful while the Murasame kills without mercy.

So Sephiroth could have been known to be a hero because he was merciful to the good and destroyed those who where evil.

So when he lost his sword in Neblehliem, it was because he chose kill those people without any mercy.

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[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.xVxObliVioNxVx

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

Well Muramasa or Murasame or whatever fits Sephiroth much better than Masamune because when it is drawn it has to shed blood before it is placed back

I don't think it would fit Sephiroth much better. According to japanese legends, the Murasame is a blood thirsty sword while the Masamune is a peaceful sword.

Sephiroth was a hero before he went insane, so the Masamune fitted him well. However, when he began killing the villagers with that sword, the last two people that the sword stabbed through is Zack and Cloud. When Cloud got stabbed by the sword he used the sword to throw Sephiroth into the mako field. Cloud was able to throw Sephiroth with the strength of the sword, this would suggest that it was the will of the sword to not be with its master anymore.

The thing is that he became a hero by killing people

evil people, the masamune can be used since it is a weapon but only against evil

so you call the people of Wutai evil people

a few can be. :P Though they did fight the war against shinra, it never was said that Sephiroth participated in fighting the people of Wutai. The stories of Sephiroth that are heard while playing the game are about him killing great powerful beasts and monsters.:)

And beasts and monsters is necessary evil you mean ?

The thing is that Masamune is supossed to scare the enemy more than kill them

One example is a story I have read where Masamune and Murasame/Muramasa is both used againts a leaf that is in the air.

Masamune got the leaf to soar away from the blade while Murasame/Muramasa cleaved the leaf in two.

I would assume that they are evil since they choose to kill those they come into contact with.

I have heard a similar story, but instead of the leaf and the swords being in the air it was in water or a river, and the same thing happened just as you said.

I don't think that this would mean that the sword scared its enemies away. I think that the sword chose to be merciful while the Murasame kills without mercy.

So Sephiroth could have been known to be a hero because he was merciful to the good and destroyed those who where evil.

So when he lost his sword in Neblehliem, it was because he chose kill those people without any mercy.

How come that he or his clone used it later again then.

And just because a beast or monster attacks everyone don't mean that they are evil, just that they don't have as highly developed minds as humans and are still controlled by their instincts.

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[QUOTE="xVxObliVioNxVx"]Murusame is so much better then lionheart. A weapon only i could use, now that's something.Nimroc

Isn't it Masamune that Sephiroth uses

Just pointing out if you took wrong between them, but you may know it :)

( Just making sure )

:P oh that's right. But what is the Murusame, is it clouds weapon that looks similar to Sephiroths?

I can't remember, but I think that they used wrong name when they named Sephiroth's weapon because Masamune can be considered to be the name on a sword of good in a japanese legend, while Murasame was it's counterpart.

The masamune was used in many of the first games as the best weapon. I think the evil/good kinda goes both ways. For example, in chrono cross, the masamune was an evil sword that was turned good when serge gets it.

Well Muramasa or Murasame or whatever fits Sephiroth much better than Masamune because when it is drawn it has to shed blood before it is placed back

I don't think it would fit Sephiroth much better. According to japanese legends, the Murasame is a blood thirsty sword while the Masamune is a peaceful sword.

Sephiroth was a hero before he went insane, so the Masamune fitted him well. However, when he began killing the villagers with that sword, the last two people that the sword stabbed through is Zack and Cloud. When Cloud got stabbed by the sword he used the sword to throw Sephiroth into the mako field. Cloud was able to throw Sephiroth with the strength of the sword, this would suggest that it was the will of the sword to not be with its master anymore.

The thing is that he became a hero by killing people

evil people, the masamune can be used since it is a weapon but only against evil

so you call the people of Wutai evil people

a few can be. :P Though they did fight the war against shinra, it never was said that Sephiroth participated in fighting the people of Wutai. The stories of Sephiroth that are heard while playing the game are about him killing great powerful beasts and monsters.:)

And beasts and monsters is necessary evil you mean ?

The thing is that Masamune is supossed to scare the enemy more than kill them

One example is a story I have read where Masamune and Murasame/Muramasa is both used againts a leaf that is in the air.

Masamune got the leaf to soar away from the blade while Murasame/Muramasa cleaved the leaf in two.

I would assume that they are evil since they choose to kill those they come into contact with.

I have heard a similar story, but instead of the leaf and the swords being in the air it was in water or a river, and the same thing happened just as you said.

I don't think that this would mean that the sword scared its enemies away. I think that the sword chose to be merciful while the Murasame kills without mercy.

So Sephiroth could have been known to be a hero because he was merciful to the good and destroyed those who where evil.

So when he lost his sword in Neblehliem, it was because he chose kill those people without any mercy.

How come that he or his clone used it later again then.

And just because a beast or monster attacks everyone don't mean that they are evil, just that they don't have as highly developed minds as humans and are still controlled by their instincts.

You know I was actually thinking about that before. I am not sure but I have one theory:

-That the sword was not the real Masamune, just like the clone was not real Sephiroth

So the mosters or beasts are not exactly evil. Nevertheless, Sephiroth still has the right to protect himself and those who are in danger. The Masamune could have strictly been used for protection instead of brutal force.

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