NFL: Who is the best QB in Football? Brady, Manning, Rodgers or Vick?

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#1 Master_Live
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Brady and Manning getting up in age but still getting it done, Rodgers is the future and Vick might be the most exciting player in the League. But right now, I shall take Rodgers.

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Rodgers and Vick aren't in the conversation....yet

It's too tough to call between Brady and Manning.

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#3 Master_Live
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Aaron Rodgers Plus he has the BELT!!!

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#4 JML897
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I think Rodgers will be the best QB in the NFL this year
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I think Rodgers will be the best QB in the NFL this yearJML897
Brady has too many weapons now for anyone to be better than him.
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#6 i5750at4Ghz
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Tom Brady has taken over for Manning. I expect Rivers to take over for Brady in the coming years.
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#7 No_Hablo_Ingles
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Vick isn't in this discussion. He is great, I love watching him play every down like his last, but... yeah, I'm sure you guys know. Now if he wins 2 SBs, 2 SB MVPs and a regular season MVP then we'll talk.
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#8 theone86
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By Manning you mean Eli, right? :P

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#9 Spellingiscool
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It's Brady easily. As much as I like Rodgers, it's Brady.
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#10 theone86
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Tom Brady has taken over for Manning. I expect Rivers to take over for Brady in the coming years.i5750at4Ghz

Rivers has insane numbers every year, only reason he isn't right there with Brady already is because he doesn't make the playoffs every year like Brady does, and really I think that's more of a failure to surround him with a great defense.

Also, why isn't Brees in this conversation? Dude has like 4,000 yards every single year.

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#11 JML897
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Brees threw 22 INTs last year. It's possible that that was just a fluke year but I think he's on the downside of his career.
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Tom Brady has taken over for Manning. I expect Rivers to take over for Brady in the coming years.theone86

Rivers has insane numbers every year, only reason he isn't right there with Brady already is because he doesn't make the playoffs every year like Brady does, and really I think that's more of a failure to surround him with a great defense.

Also, why isn't Brees in this conversation? Dude has like 4,000 yards every single year.

Brees is good, but imo the 3 players I listed are better. And he threw way too many ints last year. Elite QBs shouldn't throw 22 picks.
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#13 No_Hablo_Ingles
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Brees is a top 3 QB. Case closed. Maybe, if he has another down year, Rogers/River/Vick take the title for 3rd best QB, but till then...
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Brees is a top 3 QB. Case closed. Maybe, if he has another down year, Rogers/River/Vick take the title for 3rd best QB, but till then...No_Hablo_Ingles
Vick? Really?
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Tom Brady has taken over for Manning. I expect Rivers to take over for Brady in the coming years.i5750at4Ghz

Rivers has insane numbers every year, only reason he isn't right there with Brady already is because he doesn't make the playoffs every year like Brady does, and really I think that's more of a failure to surround him with a great defense.

Also, why isn't Brees in this conversation? Dude has like 4,000 yards every single year.

Brees is good, but imo the 3 players I listed are better. And he threw way too many ints last year. Elite QBs shouldn't throw 22 picks.

Ummm...Brett Favre?

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Rivers has insane numbers every year, only reason he isn't right there with Brady already is because he doesn't make the playoffs every year like Brady does, and really I think that's more of a failure to surround him with a great defense.

Also, why isn't Brees in this conversation? Dude has like 4,000 yards every single year.

theone86

Brees is good, but imo the 3 players I listed are better. And he threw way too many ints last year. Elite QBs shouldn't throw 22 picks.

Ummm...Brett Favre?

Different time. A prime Favre playing under the rules we have now would throw 50 tds every year. Even still in his MVP years he never threw more than 16 ints.

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#17 SF_KiLLaMaN
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I find it funny how Vick is in this poll and Rivers is not. What a joke.
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#18 i5750at4Ghz
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I find it funny how Vick is in this poll and Rivers is not. What a joke.SF_KiLLaMaN
To be fair Vick did have a better year last year.
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]I find it funny how Vick is in this poll and Rivers is not. What a joke.i5750at4Ghz
To be fair Vick did have a better year last year.

OK. He didn't even play a full year. Rivers has put up great numbers constantly over the past few years with a worse team. He also threw for the most yards last year. You don't judge a quarterback on a small amount of time played.

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#20 No_Hablo_Ingles
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[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]Brees is a top 3 QB. Case closed. Maybe, if he has another down year, Rogers/River/Vick take the title for 3rd best QB, but till then...SF_KiLLaMaN
Vick? Really?

I said maybe. If Vick played 16 game last year he would have threw for 4000 yard, scored 40 TDs, and ran for more then 800 yards so yeah... Vick
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]I find it funny how Vick is in this poll and Rivers is not. What a joke.SF_KiLLaMaN

To be fair Vick did have a better year last year.

OK. He didn't even play a full year. Rivers has put up great numbers constantly over the past few years with a worse team. He also threw for the most yards last year. You don't judge a quarterback on a small amount of time played.

It's not like Vick played 4 games. He missed a total of 3 due to injury. Playing 12-13 games is large enough.
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]I find it funny how Vick is in this poll and Rivers is not. What a joke.SF_KiLLaMaN

To be fair Vick did have a better year last year.

OK. He didn't even play a full year. Rivers has put up great numbers constantly over the past few years with a worse team. He also threw for the most yards last year. You don't judge a quarterback on a small amount of time played.

Vick 5 years starting 5 playoff runs. Rivers not so much, and rivers plays in the AFC west the second worse division in the NFL.
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#23 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] To be fair Vick did have a better year last year.i5750at4Ghz

OK. He didn't even play a full year. Rivers has put up great numbers constantly over the past few years with a worse team. He also threw for the most yards last year. You don't judge a quarterback on a small amount of time played.

Vick 5 years starting 5 playoff runs. Rivers not so much, and rivers plays in the AFC west the second worse division in the NFL.

I could easily argue that the Falcons were a better team than the Chargers are. Also, just running doesn't make you a good quarterback. Yes, Vick is and was a great athlete, but there is a lot more to being a quarterback. Rivers is what a quarterback is supposed to be and he has been excellent for the past few years.
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] OK. He didn't even play a full year. Rivers has put up great numbers constantly over the past few years with a worse team. He also threw for the most yards last year. You don't judge a quarterback on a small amount of time played.

SF_KiLLaMaN

Vick 5 years starting 5 playoff runs. Rivers not so much, and rivers plays in the AFC west the second worse division in the NFL.

I could easily argue that the Falcons were a better team than the Chargers are. Also, just running doesn't make you a good quarterback. Yes, Vick is and was a great athlete, but there is a lot more to being a quarterback. Rivers is what a quarterback is supposed to be and he has been excellent for the past few years.

I can't stand that "supposed to be" crap. Get the job done however as long as it gets done. Rivers is a great QB, look up above I say this same thing. But the fact still remains Vick did have a better year last year. And has always been a playoff QB as a starter.

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#25 No_Hablo_Ingles
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] I could easily argue that the Falcons were a better team than the Chargers are.

The Charger win more then 4 games without Rivers... The Falcons were the worse team in the NFL without Vick when he broke his leg in the preseason.
Also, just running doesn't make you a good quarterback. SF_KiLLaMaN
Good thing Vick doesn't just run...
Rivers is what a quarterback is supposed to be and he has been excellent for the past few years.SF_KiLLaMaN
Who is to say what a QB should be? Winning is the only thing that matters. And btw, Vick had a better Total QBR rating
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Vick 5 years starting 5 playoff runs. Rivers not so much, and rivers plays in the AFC west the second worse division in the NFL.i5750at4Ghz

I could easily argue that the Falcons were a better team than the Chargers are. Also, just running doesn't make you a good quarterback. Yes, Vick is and was a great athlete, but there is a lot more to being a quarterback. Rivers is what a quarterback is supposed to be and he has been excellent for the past few years.

I can't stand that "supposed to be" crap. Get the job done however as long as it gets done. Rivers is a great QB, look up above I say this same thing. But the fact still remains Vick did have a better year last year. And has always been a playoff QB as a starter.

Because Vick has had a better team for his entire career. Rivers can put up huge numbers and still lose because the Charger defense can't stop anything. A QB has to be able to throw the ball good and be accurate. Both of which Rivers is better than Vick at. Sure, Vick can run, but that is only one of the many things that makes a quarter back that he is better than Rivers in. A quarterback can't make a team a playoff team, he needs support.
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#27 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]The Charger win more then 4 games without Rivers... The Falcons were the worse team in the NFL without Vick when he broke his leg in the preseason.
Also, just running doesn't make you a good quarterback. SF_KiLLaMaN
Good thing Vick doesn't just run...
Rivers is what a quarterback is supposed to be and he has been excellent for the past few years.SF_KiLLaMaN
Who is to say what a QB should be? Winning is the only thing that matters. And btw, Vick had a better Total QBR rating

Are you really going to judge Vick by one season? Also, you still can't forget about how much better the Eagles are than the Chargers.
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#28 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] I could easily argue that the Falcons were a better team than the Chargers are. Also, just running doesn't make you a good quarterback. Yes, Vick is and was a great athlete, but there is a lot more to being a quarterback. Rivers is what a quarterback is supposed to be and he has been excellent for the past few years.SF_KiLLaMaN

I can't stand that "supposed to be" crap. Get the job done however as long as it gets done. Rivers is a great QB, look up above I say this same thing. But the fact still remains Vick did have a better year last year. And has always been a playoff QB as a starter.

Because Vick has had a better team for his entire career. Rivers can put up huge numbers and still lose because the Charger defense can't stop anything. A QB has to be able to throw the ball good and be accurate. Both of which Rivers is better than Vick at. Sure, Vick can run, but that is only one of the many things that makes a quarter back that he is better than Rivers in. A quarterback can't make a team a playoff team, he needs support.

Chargers had the number 1 defense and offense last year....
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#29 No_Hablo_Ingles
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Are you really going to judge Vick by one season? Also, you still can't forget about how much better the Eagles are than the Chargers.SF_KiLLaMaN
. Vick is a 4 time probowler, who has numerous records, among them being the first QB in NFL history to beat Greenbay in Lambo field in the playoffs. So, no, I'm not solely judging him off 1 season, but it is obvious he has improved 2. Vick makes them better. Just like how he made the 3-13 Falcons a 10 win team
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Because Vick has had a better team for his entire career. Rivers can put up huge numbers and still lose because the Charger defense can't stop anything. A QB has to be able to throw the ball good and be accurate. Both of which Rivers is better than Vick at. Sure, Vick can run, but that is only one of the many things that makes a quarter back that he is better than Rivers in. A quarterback can't make a team a playoff team, he needs support.SF_KiLLaMaN
Really? I'm pretty sure Peyton did that last season.

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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Are you really going to judge Vick by one season? Also, you still can't forget about how much better the Eagles are than the Chargers.No_Hablo_Ingles
. Vick is a 4 time probowler, who has numerous records, among them being the first QB in NFL history to beat Greenbay in Lambo field in the playoffs. So, no, I'm not solely judging him off 1 season, but it is obvious he has improved 2. Vick makes them better. Just like how he made the 3-13 Falcons a 10 win team

Packers game of last year proves that. Came in and almost brought them back to a win after kolb gave the game away.
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Also I would go with Brady. I may be a Pats fan but he did great last season, no question. And he has been consisent throughout the years.

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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Are you really going to judge Vick by one season? Also, you still can't forget about how much better the Eagles are than the Chargers.No_Hablo_Ingles
. Vick is a 4 time probowler, who has numerous records, among them being the first QB in NFL history to beat Greenbay in Lambo field in the playoffs. So, no, I'm not solely judging him off 1 season, but it is obvious he has improved 2. Vick makes them better. Just like how he made the 3-13 Falcons a 10 win team

Adding a good quarterback obviously makes a team much better, especially when he is most of the offense. but he only excelled in one area, which was scrambling and running. He made the pro bowl because he was a great exciting player, but saying he was one of the best quarterback would just be stupid. Yes, he was and still is an amazing athlete, but to be a great quarterback you have to be well rounded, not just good in one small area of the position. Vick is obviosuly getting better and more balance, but I still wouldn't put ihm in my top 5 QBs.

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Adding a good quarterback obviously makes a team much better, especially when he is most of the offense. but he only excelled in one area, which was scrambling and running. He made the pro bowl because he was a great exciting player, but saying he was one of the best quarterback would just be stupid. Yes, he was and still is an amazing athlete, but to be a great quarterback you have to be well rounded, not just good in one small area of the position.SF_KiLLaMaN
... Rewatch the Redskins game... or the Bears game... or the Giants game... or the Colts game... etc. He is now a dangerous passer who can throw it deeper then any QB in the NFL with a flick, and make it accurate. His spiril is one of the tightest in the NFL, and is accurate on medium to long routes. Look up Celek catch vs Bears on youtube.
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[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Are you really going to judge Vick by one season? Also, you still can't forget about how much better the Eagles are than the Chargers.SF_KiLLaMaN

. Vick is a 4 time probowler, who has numerous records, among them being the first QB in NFL history to beat Greenbay in Lambo field in the playoffs. So, no, I'm not solely judging him off 1 season, but it is obvious he has improved 2. Vick makes them better. Just like how he made the 3-13 Falcons a 10 win team

Adding a good quarterback obviously makes a team much better, especially when he is most of the offense. but he only excelled in one area, which was scrambling and running. He made the pro bowl because he was a great exciting player, but saying he was one of the best quarterback would just be stupid. Yes, he was and still is an amazing athlete, but to be a great quarterback you have to be well rounded, not just good in one small area of the position. Vick is obviosuly getting better and more balance, but I still wouldn't put ihm in my top 5 QBs.

He is and was a great QB, he just wasn't a good passing QB. Your narrow view of what a QB "should be" doesn't change that fact.

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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Adding a good quarterback obviously makes a team much better, especially when he is most of the offense. but he only excelled in one area, which was scrambling and running. He made the pro bowl because he was a great exciting player, but saying he was one of the best quarterback would just be stupid. Yes, he was and still is an amazing athlete, but to be a great quarterback you have to be well rounded, not just good in one small area of the position.No_Hablo_Ingles
... Rewatch the Redskins game... or the Bears game... or the Giants game... or the Colts game... etc. He is now a dangerous passer who can throw it deeper then any QB in the NFL with a flick, and make it accurate. His spiril is one of the tightest in the NFL, and is accurate on medium to long routes. Look up Celek catch vs Bears on youtube.

Again, I know he is a very good quarterback, I just wouldn't rush to put him in my top 5 based on what wasn't even a full season last year. If he does equally as well this year, then he will probably be there, but I need to see more of his passing ability.
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"] . Vick is a 4 time probowler, who has numerous records, among them being the first QB in NFL history to beat Greenbay in Lambo field in the playoffs. So, no, I'm not solely judging him off 1 season, but it is obvious he has improved 2. Vick makes them better. Just like how he made the 3-13 Falcons a 10 win teami5750at4Ghz

Adding a good quarterback obviously makes a team much better, especially when he is most of the offense. but he only excelled in one area, which was scrambling and running. He made the pro bowl because he was a great exciting player, but saying he was one of the best quarterback would just be stupid. Yes, he was and still is an amazing athlete, but to be a great quarterback you have to be well rounded, not just good in one small area of the position. Vick is obviosuly getting better and more balance, but I still wouldn't put ihm in my top 5 QBs.

He is and was a great QB, he just wasn't a good passing QB. Your narrow view of what a QB "should be" doesn't change that fact.

My narrow view? I'm looking at the big picture, you're not. Sure he was a good running QB, but that's only a small percentage of a QB's total job. In order to be great at a job, you have to be good at everything the job involves, which Vick was clearly not on the Falcons.
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Adding a good quarterback obviously makes a team much better, especially when he is most of the offense. but he only excelled in one area, which was scrambling and running. He made the pro bowl because he was a great exciting player, but saying he was one of the best quarterback would just be stupid. Yes, he was and still is an amazing athlete, but to be a great quarterback you have to be well rounded, not just good in one small area of the position. Vick is obviosuly getting better and more balance, but I still wouldn't put ihm in my top 5 QBs.

SF_KiLLaMaN

He is and was a great QB, he just wasn't a good passing QB. Your narrow view of what a QB "should be" doesn't change that fact.

My narrow view? I'm looking at the big picture, you're not. Sure he was a good running QB, but that's only a small percentage of a QB's total job. In order to be great at a job, you have to be good at everything the job involves, which Vick was clearly not on the Falcons.

I disagree. If what you say is true then he wouldn't have been winning games like he was.
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#39 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] He is and was a great QB, he just wasn't a good passing QB. Your narrow view of what a QB "should be" doesn't change that fact.

i5750at4Ghz

My narrow view? I'm looking at the big picture, you're not. Sure he was a good running QB, but that's only a small percentage of a QB's total job. In order to be great at a job, you have to be good at everything the job involves, which Vick was clearly not on the Falcons.

I disagree. If what you say is true then he wouldn't have been winning games like he was.

You don't have to be a great all around QB to win games. You can be great at one small aspect of the job and win by your skill in that, but to be a great QB, you have to be good at everything that has to do with the job. Vick was an amazing athlete, but he wasn't a great QB.

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#40 No_Hablo_Ingles
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Rivers wasn't a great QB in middle school.
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#41 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] My narrow view? I'm looking at the big picture, you're not. Sure he was a good running QB, but that's only a small percentage of a QB's total job. In order to be great at a job, you have to be good at everything the job involves, which Vick was clearly not on the Falcons. SF_KiLLaMaN

I disagree. If what you say is true then he wouldn't have been winning games like he was.

You don't have to be a great all around QB to win games. You can be great at one small aspect of the job and win by your skill in that, but to be a great QB, you have to be good at everything that has to do with the job. Vick was an amazing athlete, but he wasn't a great QB.

He was and still is the best running QB in the NFL. I'm sorry I just don't see your point. Based on your logic Rivers is an incomplete QB as well as he only has 250 yards rushing for his career. Making him "incomplete".
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#42 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] I disagree. If what you say is true then he wouldn't have been winning games like he was.i5750at4Ghz

You don't have to be a great all around QB to win games. You can be great at one small aspect of the job and win by your skill in that, but to be a great QB, you have to be good at everything that has to do with the job. Vick was an amazing athlete, but he wasn't a great QB.

He was and still is the best running QB in the NFL. I'm sorry I just don't see your point. Based on your logic Rivers is an incomplete QB as well as he only has 250 yards rushing for his career. Making him "incomplete".

But rushing isn't an essential part of being a QB, passing is. Being able to run is more of a bonus than anything.
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#43 No_Hablo_Ingles
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But rushing isn't an essential part of being a QB, passing is. Being able to run is more of a bonus than anything. SF_KiLLaMaN
No, producing scoring drives is. You can be a game manager QB like early big ben, Mark Sanchez, etc.
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#44 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] You don't have to be a great all around QB to win games. You can be great at one small aspect of the job and win by your skill in that, but to be a great QB, you have to be good at everything that has to do with the job. Vick was an amazing athlete, but he wasn't a great QB.

SF_KiLLaMaN

He was and still is the best running QB in the NFL. I'm sorry I just don't see your point. Based on your logic Rivers is an incomplete QB as well as he only has 250 yards rushing for his career. Making him "incomplete".

But rushing isn't an essential part of being a QB, passing is. Being able to run is more of a bonus than anything.

I again disagree. Moving the football forward is an essential part of being a QB. Regardless of how you do it.

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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]I find it funny how Vick is in this poll and Rivers is not. What a joke.i5750at4Ghz
To be fair Vick did have a better year last year.

No he didn't. Rivers threw for almost 5k yards, 101.8 QB rating, 30 TDs, and 65.9 completion percentage. Rivers is always overlooked.
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#46 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Adding a good quarterback obviously makes a team much better, especially when he is most of the offense. but he only excelled in one area, which was scrambling and running. He made the pro bowl because he was a great exciting player, but saying he was one of the best quarterback would just be stupid. Yes, he was and still is an amazing athlete, but to be a great quarterback you have to be well rounded, not just good in one small area of the position.No_Hablo_Ingles
... Rewatch the Redskins game... or the Bears game... or the Giants game... or the Colts game... etc. He is now a dangerous passer who can throw it deeper then any QB in the NFL with a flick, and make it accurate. His spiril is one of the tightest in the NFL, and is accurate on medium to long routes. Look up Celek catch vs Bears on youtube.

WOW, I haven't seen so much exaggeration in one post in a while!

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#47 No_Hablo_Ingles
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[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Adding a good quarterback obviously makes a team much better, especially when he is most of the offense. but he only excelled in one area, which was scrambling and running. He made the pro bowl because he was a great exciting player, but saying he was one of the best quarterback would just be stupid. Yes, he was and still is an amazing athlete, but to be a great quarterback you have to be well rounded, not just good in one small area of the position.Chutebox

... Rewatch the Redskins game... or the Bears game... or the Giants game... or the Colts game... etc. He is now a dangerous passer who can throw it deeper then any QB in the NFL with a flick, and make it accurate. His spiral is one of the tightest in the NFL, and is accurate on medium to long routes. Look up Celek catch vs Bears on youtube.

WOW, I haven't seen so much exaggeration in one post in a while!

I do what I do :P!

but, just to clarify, what did I exaggerate? He really does throw 50 yards accurately throwing off his back foot with a flick of the wrist. The rest is kind of meh ish

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#48 monkeytoes61
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Vick isn't even close. Drew Brees should be on the poll in his place. And this isn't even a discussion. You guys did see what Tom Brady did last year, right? I'll take Brady any day.
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We can all agree Brady and Peyton top 1 and 2...

I see Rodgers, then Brees, then Vick, then Rivers... based on two things, their playing ability AAND ability to lead their team to victory.

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#50 blueboxdoctor
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I like Manning the best, but as far as best player I'd have to say Brady just for those years when the Patriots kept going to the superbowl and winning. I put Vick last because he's just hype, that's it. I watch him every Sunday and am a diehard Eagles fan, nothing about him has made me go wow. As soon as the Bears figured him out last year he's been average at best.