Most overrated elite QB in the NFL?

Now you may not agree that all five men listed below are elite QBs, but they have been the ones getting most of the press this season/off-season.

So I'm asking you all, which one of these fine gents is the most overrated?

Non are overrated. There's no chance anyone can seriously say Ben Roethlisberger. He doesn't get any praise whatsoever. Peyton's been struggling with his team, but still pretty good.

Vick? Elite? He's going to have to have more than one great season throwing the ball for me to consider him elite. Why isn't Drew Brees or Philip Rivers on your list?TheGrat1

I don't know if I would call Rodgers overrated, definitely overhyped. I'd like to see how he'd fare with a different group of receivers, his current corps gets open fairly easily and gets great yards after the catch, which definitely bumps up his numbers. I wonder if his numbers would look as spectacular if he was playing with the group of receivers that Peyton or Vick or Favre was playing with this past season. That still makes him a good quarterback, I just think the love this guy gets from the media surpasses sycophancy and borders into cultish.

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]Vick? Elite? He's going to have to have more than one great season throwing the ball for me to consider him elite. Why isn't Drew Brees or Philip Rivers on your list?BaraChat

Rivers is probably wholly underrated simply by merit of never getting to the big game much less win it. If he goes down as the next Dan Marino it's not going to be his fault, it's the fault of Norv Turner and the organization for not being able to build a team around a player who has 300+,3 touchdown+ games on a regular basis.

Brees certainly was the lovechild of the media there for about a season, now I think people have forgotten about him. How fleeting acclaim can be when you're not going deep anymore. At the beginning of the season Brees was still getting adecent amountof hype and analysts were speculating as to whether or not the Steelers even needed Big Ben, how things change.

Vick, this season had its highs and lows. Personally, I wonder if he can repeat his success given the consistent injuries and how old he's getting. He also struggled in some games, but of the QBs you listed he probably had the worst team behind him this season (full team, not just receivers). Vick's probably always going to be a quarterback who is underrated by his detractors and overrated by his fans.

Big Ben, sure he wins big games. But put up mediocre numbers. But he also rode a great running game and great defense. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]Vick? Elite? He's going to have to have more than one great season throwing the ball for me to consider him elite. Why isn't Drew Brees or Philip Rivers on your list?BaraChat

I think the forum crowd focuses too much on Big Bens 10-2 record, and completely forgets how beast his defense/run game is. That said didn't the NFL Network put Peyton Manning #8 all time?(for the record I'm a Peyton Manning fan) 9-10 for Mr. #8 all time? I don't see how that's not being overrated. jg4xchamp

Um, I dunno, Dan Marino, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Joe Montana, Sid Luckman, Troy Aikman, Rodger Staubach, are all I can think of off the top of my head. I guess that's eight, but really aren't we being nitpicky over one spot? Of course I don't know who they put ahead of him, but stiil. Besides, Brett Favre has gotten way more hype over the years than Peyton Manning and Peyton is definitely the superior QB of the two.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I think the forum crowd focuses too much on Big Bens 10-2 record, and completely forgets how beast his defense/run game is. That said didn't the NFL Network put Peyton Manning #8 all time?(for the record I'm a Peyton Manning fan) 9-10 for Mr. #8 all time? I don't see how that's not being overrated. theone86

Um, I dunno, Dan Marino, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Joe Montana, Sid Luckman, Troy Aikman, Rodger Staubach, are all I can think of off the top of my head. I guess that's eight, but really aren't we being nitpicky over one spot? Of course I don't know who they put ahead of him, but stiil. Besides, Brett Favre has gotten way more hype over the years than Peyton Manning and Peyton is definitely the superior QB of the two.

P.S Note that I said out of the group. I hold firm to my belief that Eli Manning is the most over rated QB in the NFL right now and for some reason is mentioned in the Elite status.No_Hablo_Ingles

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]P.S Note that I said out of the group. I hold firm to my belief that Eli Manning is the most over rated QB in the NFL right now and for some reason is mentioned in the Elite status.jg4xchamp

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I think the forum crowd focuses too much on Big Bens 10-2 record, and completely forgets how beast his defense/run game is. That said didn't the NFL Network put Peyton Manning #8 all time?(for the record I'm a Peyton Manning fan) 9-10 for Mr. #8 all time? I don't see how that's not being overrated. jg4xchamp

Um, I dunno, Dan Marino, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Joe Montana, Sid Luckman, Troy Aikman, Rodger Staubach, are all I can think of off the top of my head. I guess that's eight, but really aren't we being nitpicky over one spot? Of course I don't know who they put ahead of him, but stiil. Besides, Brett Favre has gotten way more hype over the years than Peyton Manning and Peyton is definitely the superior QB of the two.

I thought Unitas and Montana were put higher on the list so that would put him as third best? Either way I do think being 8th of all time is too high. But then again thought Farve was also too high on the list as well.

Anyways out of those, I'd say it's between Vick and Big Ben. I'd like to see how Vick does next season before putting him as an elite Qb. As for Big Ben, the defense and running game he has helps a lot.

I do however think he is one of the top clutch Qb's playing right now.

Fun fact: Vick averaged more Touchdowns per game then any QB in the NFL last season. He averaged 2.5 (Brady averaged 2.25) per game and missed four because of either injury or coaching decision.

If he maintained that average and played all 16 games, he would have scored 40 total Touchdowns (28 passing, 12 rushing).

So if that's not elite, I can't wait till next year, because like Vick said "The sky is the limit"

Big Ben, sure he wins big games. But put up mediocre numbers. But he also rode a great running game and great defense. Just my opinion.

ps3_owns_360Wii

From 1992-2003, Pittsburgh had a top-10 Defense eight times (Rod Woodson, Carnell Lake, Kevin Greene, Greg Lloyd, Levon Kirkland, Chad Brown, Jason Gildon, Kendrell Bell, Joey Porter, etc), plus Pro Bowl receivers Eric Green(TE), Yancey Thigpen and Hines Ward, and PB RBs Barry Foster and Jerome Bettis...

How many big games and/or SBs did they win with Neil O'Donnell, Mike Tomczak, Tommy Maddox or Kordell Stewart at QB?

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Big Ben, sure he wins big games. But put up mediocre numbers. But he also rode a great running game and great defense. Just my opinion.

JackBurton

From 1992-2003, Pittsburgh had a top-10 Defense eight times (Rod Woodson, Carnell Lake, Kevin Greene, Greg Lloyd, Levon Kirkland, Chad Brown, Jason Gildon, Kendrell Bell, Joey Porter, etc), plus Pro Bowl receivers Eric Green(TE), Yancey Thigpen and Hines Ward, and PB RBs Barry Foster and Jerome Bettis...

How many big games and/or SBs did they win with Neil O'Donnell, Mike Tomczak, Tommy Maddox or Kordell Stewart at QB?

Of this group, Michael Vick. But he deserves most of the praise he gets, I don't really think any of them are overrated.monkeytoes61

I agree. Out of all of them, it would be Vick, but his praise is well deserved in my eyes.

Vick isn't really elite yet, so him.

Who voted that Tom Brady was the most overrated QB...No_Hablo_Ingles

I'm sure a lot of the votes are quarterbacks that people don't like, rather than overrated.

Who voted that Tom Brady was the most overrated QB...No_Hablo_Ingles

First off you have to change the title, because overrated and elite cannot be placed in the same sentence.

I just wanna know who voted for Brady, Manning, and Rodgers.

I just wanna know who voted for Brady, Manning, and Rodgers.

ps3_owns_360Wii

The Dog Killer. Master_Live

The Rapistspliffstar12

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I just wanna know who voted for Brady, Manning, and Rodgers.

No_Hablo_Ingles

I'll put Rodgers depends on how he does in the Super Bowl.

[QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

I just wanna know who voted for Brady, Manning, and Rodgers.

ps3_owns_360Wii

I'll put Rodgers depends on how he does in the Super Bowl.

Where's the option for none.

Even though I'm a super huge fan of Peyton I have to go with him. During the regular season he's unstoppable but when it comes to the playoffs he chokes. If he wasn't such a big choker in the playoffs he would be the GOAT.

Of that list, the dog killer without a doubt...

But Peyton Manning is starhting to get into my mind as over-rated... its hard, because his numbers are so brillant... but he just isn't that good in the post season... he doesn't win big games...

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]P.S Note that I said out of the group. I hold firm to my belief that Eli Manning is the most over rated QB in the NFL right now and for some reason is mentioned in the Elite status.No_Hablo_Ingles

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I just wanna know who voted for Brady, Manning, and Rodgers.

No_Hablo_Ingles

Eli is better than Flacco, Romo, and Ryan, wtf are people smoking-Halftime-