I hate the NBA and heres why

Lebron this Lebron that last year it was Dwayne wade this dwayne wade that , the year before that Keven garrnet this Kevin garrnet that. um hello it's not the Lebron james Cavaliers. if i was in the Cavs i would miss those shots on purpose even if i make it Lebrons gonna get the credit for passing it to me.  Ever since MJ  left the game ever year they try to pick another jabrony whos"the next jordan" i swears there been like 6 next jordans and heres there names

Penny Hardaway

Vince Carter

Tracy Magrady

Dwayne Wade

Allen Iverson(whos possibly the closest to jordan there ever was)

Lebron James

Carmello Anthony

So wich one is it ESPN, wich one of these guys is the next jordan? heres the answer none of them none of there names starts with Michael or ends with Jordan. 

skill wise id say LEBRON is the closest to JORDAN....IVERSON just isint a team player...but dont forget JORDAN always had an amazing team to play with,UNLIke lebron...danjam2007

P.S trying to call every kid who can dunk the next Jordanis stupid IMO. there never gonna be a next Jordan. the press needs to stop doing that call them by there names there not Jordan and they will never will be unless Jordan has a boy and names him Michael Jordan JR then there in no Next Jordan

dude the pistons are one of the best defencesive teams in the NBA ...lebron is still young he doesnt have a big man like WADE or a 2nd man like jordan did .....give james a SHAQ or a NASH and hed be unstopabledanjam2007

i know WADE is a guard i just said that he has a big guy to play with SHAQ....lebron is bassically the whole team...HUGES is either on or off...GOODEN is defensive..ISGALSKIS???? HE JUST STINKS...so its to much pressure for a player to put a team on his back,look how hes been doing latley...NOT SO GOODdanjam2007

The closest to MJ is Dwayne Wade, he's got the speed, the athleticism and the technique, he's also just as important as Jordan was to the Bulls(they win with him, they loose without him), LeBron is kind of a mix between Jordan and Pippen, and his mindset is very different then Jordan's, he's also not as clutch as both Jordan and Wade are.

You hate the NBA because there hasn't been a player like Michael Jordan in the leauge since he left, or because they market their upcoming stars as such?

If it's the latter, the key word is potential - all of those guys listed came into the league with loads of talent and plenty of upside, it's up to their actions on the court to define their level of greatness. Of course it's a team game and everyone has to contribute in order to be successful, but it sounds like you're just hating on the most talented guys in the league. Just don't listen to ESPN hype idiots and appreciate their individual games for what they are. 

If it's the former, well, we can't expect another Jordan to come along maybe ever. And even MJ didn't win his first title until he was 29. There will be other dominant and great hall of fame caliber players, but the guy was Tiger Woods, he was the league, he made Space Jam. Let his legacy live in peace, I say.

Personally I think that LeBron is over-publicized. I understand what he is, but doesn't it get boring to admire all of these SG/SF types that average around 25 ppg. They all seem the same after a while. I am personally excited to see Mr. Oden in action (no, I am not a Blazers fan). A good big that has some athleticism will be much more interesting to watch than a guy that flies in for dunks all the time. Of course the PG position is my favorite anyway, so I may be a little biased.adamf_17

The thing that makes LeBron interesting to me is he can play like a PG in the body of a SF - his court vision, decision making, athleticism and natrual ability to score/rebound is really something to behold. He's been improving rapidly on the defensive end and with his outside shot as well. I never saw Oscar Robertson but I imagine he brought a similar skillset to the table.

Unfortunatley he plays in a horribly designed offense that runs about 3 plays, one of which is the dreaded ISO at the top of the key while everyone else clears out and stands around. LeBron can be so much better if he just had some quality teammates that compliment his game and a coach with some more creativity than Mike Brown.

Admittedly, it's the same way with every other major sport. In baseball, it's Sox Yanks Sox Yanks Dice-K Clemens Dice-K Clemens.

In the NFL, it's Farve Brady Manning (insert which).

Not so much in hockey here in the States.

But I'd say the NBA gets much less such exposure on a single athlete than the other major sports. Come on, I hear just as much about Dirk Nowiszki and Steve Nash as I do LeBron, until recently, of course, since the Cavs are only one of four teams left in the playoffs.

I hate the NBA because of the general lack of emotion and ignorance in the stands compared to, say, NCAA basketball, and the fact that the 24-second shot clock really speeds up the game to the point where it looks like there is little strategy involved.

You forgot one. I'm a Spurs fan and dislike the Lakers. But Kobe is better than Jordan. How many rings did Jordan have by the time he was 28? Lakers aren't winning right now because Kobe doesn't have his Pippen. Kobe scoring 81 and his streak of 50 point games is just absurd. I believe Jordan only made it to 69. He didn't start winning til his 30s. I'm sure everyone disagrees but that's my view

You forgot one. I'm a Spurs fan and dislike the Lakers. But Kobe is better than Jordan. How many rings did Jordan have by the time he was 28? Lakers aren't winning right now because Kobe doesn't have his Pippen. Kobe scoring 81 and his streak of 50 point games is just absurd. I believe Jordan only made it to 69. He didn't start winning til his 30s. I'm sure everyone disagrees but that's my view

LessThanMarcus

Jordan had zero help on the Bulls during his early career and was going up against legendary Eastern Conference powerhouses like Bird's Celtics, Isiah's Pistons and Malone's 76ers. Kobe won titles in his early career playing with one of the greatest/most dominant Centers of all time and one of the greatest coaches of all time. I would like to believe Jordan could have matched that feat were he afforded the same luxury. Hell he probably would have won 4 rings with Shaq.

Also you're arguing greatness based on career highs in points, which doesn't make sense at all. Statistical anomolies and records are entertaining but the fact is that only two players in the history of the league AVERAGED over 30 ppg for their entire careers, Wilt and Michael. Jordan also won 7 consecutive scoring titles, 10 total. Averaged over 37ppg in his third season with 8 50+ pt games. And that's just a scoring comparison. Kobe is great, but he is no MJ.

The closest thing to Michael has been Kobe.Master_Live

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You forgot one. I'm a Spurs fan and dislike the Lakers. But Kobe is better than Jordan. How many rings did Jordan have by the time he was 28? Lakers aren't winning right now because Kobe doesn't have his Pippen. Kobe scoring 81 and his streak of 50 point games is just absurd. I believe Jordan only made it to 69. He didn't start winning til his 30s. I'm sure everyone disagrees but that's my view

viberooni

Jordan had zero help on the Bulls during his early career and was going up against legendary Eastern Conference powerhouses like Bird's Celtics, Isiah's Pistons and Malone's 76ers. Kobe won titles in his early career playing with one of the greatest/most dominant Centers of all time and one of the greatest coaches of all time. I would like to believe Jordan could have matched that feat were he afforded the same luxury. Hell he probably would have won 4 rings with Shaq.

Also you're arguing greatness based on career highs in points, which doesn't make sense at all. Statistical anomolies and records are entertaining but the fact is that only two players in the history of the league AVERAGED over 30 ppg for their entire careers, Wilt and Michael. Jordan also won 7 consecutive scoring titles, 10 total. Averaged over 37ppg in his third season with 8 50+ pt games. And that's just a scoring comparison. Kobe is great, but he is no MJ.

Luke Longley

Scottie Pippen 

Steve Kurr

John Paxton 

Tony Kukoks(spelling)

the only player who was of high caliber was Dennis Rodman who till this day is the best defense,hustler and rebounder ever but he came at the end of the Bulls success. Jordan accounted for the rest the first 4 championships and the reason For most of this was the NBA wasn't that competitive.

Kobe is a ballhog and if you go but just points scored you know nothing. Kobe is just scoring so much points cause he made everygood player leave so he can score all the points he's not betetr than jordan if he didn't have Shaq he wouldn't ever win a title and Jordan never had a Shaq type player. Shaq is 7 foot and weighs 300 plus pounds and was like a train who was nasty. 

its funny how they say barry bonds is the next hank aaron... or how cheese is the next tv dinner...yellosnolvr

You forgot one. I'm a Spurs fan and dislike the Lakers. But Kobe is better than Jordan. How many rings did Jordan have by the time he was 28? Lakers aren't winning right now because Kobe doesn't have his Pippen. Kobe scoring 81 and his streak of 50 point games is just absurd. I believe Jordan only made it to 69. He didn't start winning til his 30s. I'm sure everyone disagrees but that's my view

LessThanMarcus

The only things Kobe has over Jordan is 81. Ooutside of that, Jordan has him beat in every way (including PPG averages).

so you hate the NBA because there isnt another Jordan?.....but you said there never will be

or do you hate it because they comapre players to Jordan?.....of course if you consider him the best then shouldnt the rest emulate him? 

Scoring 81 points is ridiculous. Just last night the Pistons scored 79 points. A whole team scored 79 and Kobe drops 81 on the Raptors. Kobe isn't top 5 players of all time like Jordan is but one on one I think Kobe is the better player. And yes I think Pippen WAS in the top 50 greatest players of all time. So I think contributed a bit.LessThanMarcus

There isnt another Michael Jordan because he was one-of-a-kind. They didnt get cut in their junior year of high school, they didnt hit a game clincher in the national championship, they haven't won 6 championships, they didnt make Nike a household name, they haven't tried out for baseball, blah blah blah...There was never a player like Michael Jordan and never will be.d12malu

Deion Sanders

Bo Jackson

Think deions better he was actually awsome in Football as a Croner(prob one of the best ever?) and he played in the MLB that alone is impressive. But remember Bo Jackson running on the wall ttrying to catch a fly ball that was crazy.

[QUOTE="d12malu"]There isnt another Michael Jordan because he was one-of-a-kind. They didnt get cut in their junior year of high school, they didnt hit a game clincher in the national championship, they haven't won 6 championships, they didnt make Nike a household name, they haven't tried out for baseball, blah blah blah...There was never a player like Michael Jordan and never will be.peacebringer

Deion Sanders

Bo Jackson

Think deions better he was actually awsome in Football as a Croner(prob one of the best ever?) and he played in the MLB that alone is impressive. But remember Bo Jackson running on the wall ttrying to catch a fly ball that was crazy.

Heh, I guess baseball isnt a prerequisite for best basketball player ever, but what Michael Jordan brought to the table was more than basketball. To bring not only the best basketball skills with the best marketability made Jordan an even bigger basketball player. Imagine Tim Duncan in GQ regularly. Or Kobe w/o legal issues in his past and winning championships. No one can predict the next player who achieves the stardom that Jordan achieved, they can only wait till the smoke and dust clears and judge it then. But as of right now, it is already too late for this generation of players.  

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[QUOTE="d12malu"]There isnt another Michael Jordan because he was one-of-a-kind. They didnt get cut in their junior year of high school, they didnt hit a game clincher in the national championship, they haven't won 6 championships, they didnt make Nike a household name, they haven't tried out for baseball, blah blah blah...There was never a player like Michael Jordan and never will be.d12malu

Deion Sanders

Bo Jackson

Think deions better he was actually awsome in Football as a Croner(prob one of the best ever?) and he played in the MLB that alone is impressive. But remember Bo Jackson running on the wall ttrying to catch a fly ball that was crazy.

Heh, I guess baseball isnt a prerequisite for best basketball player ever, but what Michael Jordan brought to the table was more than basketball. To bring not only the best basketball skills with the best marketability made Jordan an even bigger basketball player. Imagine Tim Duncan in GQ regularly. Or Kobe w/o legal issues in his past and winning championships. No one can predict the next player who achieves the stardom that Jordan achieved, they can only wait till the smoke and dust clears and judge it then. But as of right now, it is already too late for this generation of players.

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[QUOTE="d12malu"]There isnt another Michael Jordan because he was one-of-a-kind. They didnt get cut in their junior year of high school, they didnt hit a game clincher in the national championship, they haven't won 6 championships, they didnt make Nike a household name, they haven't tried out for baseball, blah blah blah...There was never a player like Michael Jordan and never will be.peacebringer

Deion Sanders

Bo Jackson

Think deions better he was actually awsome in Football as a Croner(prob one of the best ever?) and he played in the MLB that alone is impressive. But remember Bo Jackson running on the wall ttrying to catch a fly ball that was crazy.

Heh, I guess baseball isnt a prerequisite for best basketball player ever, but what Michael Jordan brought to the table was more than basketball. To bring not only the best basketball skills with the best marketability made Jordan an even bigger basketball player. Imagine Tim Duncan in GQ regularly. Or Kobe w/o legal issues in his past and winning championships. No one can predict the next player who achieves the stardom that Jordan achieved, they can only wait till the smoke and dust clears and judge it then. But as of right now, it is already too late for this generation of players.

Exactly. This league is so hungry for another Jordan, they are willing to anoint any phenom that comes in the next great one. Not one player before or since has put it all together. Every superstar now has issues. Image, legal issues, high school player, no championships. Olympics is a perfect example. How many players have coughed up excuses for dropping out of the Olympic team? I mean, Jordan won the 84' Gold Medal in college! Jordan just seemed to have everything covered, so much that it was able to cover up his flaws like gambling, women, and whatever else. If the NBA keeps looking for the next Jordan, they won't find him. NBA is a league of stars now, but no superstars.

Btw, I actually love the NBA but I see your point. It's mostly b/c I love basketball. High school to the pros, it's all the same.

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[QUOTE="d12malu"]There isnt another Michael Jordan because he was one-of-a-kind. They didnt get cut in their junior year of high school, they didnt hit a game clincher in the national championship, they haven't won 6 championships, they didnt make Nike a household name, they haven't tried out for baseball, blah blah blah...There was never a player like Michael Jordan and never will be.d12malu

Deion Sanders

Bo Jackson

Think deions better he was actually awsome in Football as a Croner(prob one of the best ever?) and he played in the MLB that alone is impressive. But remember Bo Jackson running on the wall ttrying to catch a fly ball that was crazy.

Heh, I guess baseball isnt a prerequisite for best basketball player ever, but what Michael Jordan brought to the table was more than basketball. To bring not only the best basketball skills with the best marketability made Jordan an even bigger basketball player. Imagine Tim Duncan in GQ regularly. Or Kobe w/o legal issues in his past and winning championships. No one can predict the next player who achieves the stardom that Jordan achieved, they can only wait till the smoke and dust clears and judge it then. But as of right now, it is already too late for this generation of players.

Exactly. This league is so hungry for another Jordan, they are willing to anoint any phenom that comes in the next great one. Not one player before or since has put it all together. Every superstar now has issues. Image, legal issues, high school player, no championships. Olympics is a perfect example. How many players have coughed up excuses for dropping out of the Olympic team? I mean, Jordan won the 84' Gold Medal in college! Jordan just seemed to have everything covered, so much that it was able to cover up his flaws like gambling, women, and whatever else. If the NBA keeps looking for the next Jordan, they won't find him. NBA is a league of stars now, but no superstars.

Btw, I actually love the NBA but I see your point. It's mostly b/c I love basketball. High school to the pros, it's all the same.

There is no one more talented than Lebron in the league right now. You tell me when you see another 6 foot 8 inch, 240 pound dude run and jump like Lebron.dkhw

[QUOTE="d12malu"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="d12malu"][QUOTE="peacebringer"]

[QUOTE="d12malu"]There isnt another Michael Jordan because he was one-of-a-kind. They didnt get cut in their junior year of high school, they didnt hit a game clincher in the national championship, they haven't won 6 championships, they didnt make Nike a household name, they haven't tried out for baseball, blah blah blah...There was never a player like Michael Jordan and never will be.peacebringer

Deion Sanders

Bo Jackson

Think deions better he was actually awsome in Football as a Croner(prob one of the best ever?) and he played in the MLB that alone is impressive. But remember Bo Jackson running on the wall ttrying to catch a fly ball that was crazy.

Heh, I guess baseball isnt a prerequisite for best basketball player ever, but what Michael Jordan brought to the table was more than basketball. To bring not only the best basketball skills with the best marketability made Jordan an even bigger basketball player. Imagine Tim Duncan in GQ regularly. Or Kobe w/o legal issues in his past and winning championships. No one can predict the next player who achieves the stardom that Jordan achieved, they can only wait till the smoke and dust clears and judge it then. But as of right now, it is already too late for this generation of players.

Exactly. This league is so hungry for another Jordan, they are willing to anoint any phenom that comes in the next great one. Not one player before or since has put it all together. Every superstar now has issues. Image, legal issues, high school player, no championships. Olympics is a perfect example. How many players have coughed up excuses for dropping out of the Olympic team? I mean, Jordan won the 84' Gold Medal in college! Jordan just seemed to have everything covered, so much that it was able to cover up his flaws like gambling, women, and whatever else. If the NBA keeps looking for the next Jordan, they won't find him. NBA is a league of stars now, but no superstars.

Btw, I actually love the NBA but I see your point. It's mostly b/c I love basketball. High school to the pros, it's all the same.

I can quote people too damn it.

I havent watched basketball seriously since jordan left.

And I watched the warriors in the playoffs because they worked hard, and they beat the mavericks. They'll prolly be bak next year

In the 2 years without Jordan ..... Scottie Pippen was All-NBA 1st team and All-NBA 1st defense both years. I just wanted to point that out.

In the 2 years without Jordan ..... Scottie Pippen was All-NBA 1st team and All-NBA 1st defense both years. I just wanted to point that out.

 

 

Nike_Air

Lebron this Lebron that last year it was Dwayne wade this dwayne wade that , the year before that Keven garrnet this Kevin garrnet that. um hello it's not the Lebron james Cavaliers. if i was in the Cavs i would miss those shots on purpose even if i make it Lebrons gonna get the credit for passing it to me.  Ever since MJ  left the game ever year they try to pick another jabrony whos"the next jordan" i swears there been like 6 next jordans and heres there names

Penny Hardaway

Vince Carter

Tracy Magrady

Dwayne Wade

Allen Iverson(whos possibly the closest to jordan there ever was)

Lebron James

Carmello Anthony

So wich one is it ESPN, wich one of these guys is the next jordan? heres the answer none of them none of there names starts with Michael or ends with Jordan. 

 

peacebringer

Dwayne wade is not considered the next jordan, nor Vince carter. your'e list is flawed its missing Kobe Bryant the next MJ.

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In the 2 years without Jordan ..... Scottie Pippen was All-NBA 1st team and All-NBA 1st defense both years. I just wanted to point that out.

 

 

peacebringer

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In the 2 years without Jordan ..... Scottie Pippen was All-NBA 1st team and All-NBA 1st defense both years. I just wanted to point that out.

 

 

Nike_Air

So basically you hate the nba because some tv channel makes a habit of hyping new athletes? By that logic, you must hate all professional sports leagues because tv networks always have and always will hype new athletes as being the next big thing.UT_Wrestler

TV networks are always hyping athletes in all sports who turn out to be total busts. Remember Ryan Leaf? What difference does it make? And what does a tv network have to do with whether or not you enjoy watching a professional sports league?UT_Wrestler

Lebron is more is much more like Magic or Bird. Though he seems to lack the killer instict of either of them. Kobe is definatly the closest thing to Jordan. Others have been as athletic, but very few offer the 'step on your throat' mentality that Kobe and MJ bring to the floor. Lebron, DWade and Carmelo aren't even complete players. They don't seem to play defense too well.MahlerFreak

Kobe lacks the abillity to inspire his team though(something Wade does very well), the Lakers start of well, and seem very motivated, and through the year they tend to fade, the team chemistry gets torn apart, by Kobe stating his team isn't good enough every time they loose, which is something MJ would never do.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

In the 2 years without Jordan ..... Scottie Pippen was All-NBA 1st team and All-NBA 1st defense both years. I just wanted to point that out.

 

 

peacebringer