Wonderful Trump. Give that intel away.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.94b359955049

At this point I hope no sane people are supporting this. Giving sensitive information away that compromises future intel and something we don't share with our allies but okay for doing so with Russia.

What at a scumbag fake president idiot is, a complete disgrace to the office of the presidency.

He doesn't realize what he's doing. What an idiot.

he can't be that stupid

Apparently he can..........

Nice fake news

@LJS9502_basic:

At this point, I'd imagine his supporters would just be plugging their ears with their fingers yelling, "LA, LA, LA, LA, LA!!! FAKE NEWS!!! I'M NOT LISTENING!! LA, LA, LA, LA, LA!!!! IF I DON'T LISTEN, IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!"

Lock him up! Lock him up!

Am I doing it right?

Statement from Secretary Tillerson:

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/864248406298021888

Too bad the Trump Administration doesn't have much credibility. Lets see how this develop. Distraction from the Comey firing?

https://twitter.com/SpeakerRyan/status/751198307972767744

Case in point.....

Lol according to an article WAPost wrote, nearly every conservative outlet on the internet is actually Russian news agent. Do you pick and choose which articles from WAPo you choose to ignore or do you just accept them all as true? Are you aware WAPost used to regularly publish Russian propaganda?

Link.

He's going to link The Washington Times again.

Sigh...

"The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation," H.R. McMaster, Trump's national security adviser, who was in the meeting, told the Post. "At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly."

"During that exchange, the nature of specific threats were discussed, but they did not discuss sources, methods, or military operations," Tillerson added.

And Deputy National Security Adviser Dina Powell said the "story is false."

"The president only discussed the common threats that both countries faced," she said.

Moving on....

Trumps team said otherwise? They are so trust worthy! Then lets completely dismiss it! Just like the Russian meddling (which did happen) and climate change and all news except Fox being fake.

Nah. I think i'll wait and see more facts/truth from other parties instead of coming to any conclusion, both vindicating or damning.

Those US officials that had to publically critique Trump are making the situation worse. What the president said sounds bad if you put a magnifying glass on it. Now that they're making a big story out of it terrorist will examine what Trump said again carefully.

so people are saying this is legal.... where does it say in the constitution or bill of rights

Never thought impeachment would be possible... but....

BUT HER EMAILS, BUT HER EMAILS, RIGHT RIGHT??? ....

The president has widespread authority to declassify information at his discretion. From what I understand, it's essentially legal by default although the issue isn't entirely black and white.

there has been zero facts released (according to your standards) yet you're all up in arms.

Legality here is largely irrelevant to the issue, prudence is what matters.

This is about compromising national security and at this point it's up in the air, but hell if I'm going to believe a single word this administration says in its defense. They're proven deceivers. It wouldn't surprise me at all to have Trump be so obtuse as to brain-fart something that he doesn't even realize the implications of just by nature of who he is. He's a braggart, and he doesn't think before he speaks. He's been doing it constantly, and it is a grave danger to this nation to place such gravitas and responsibility into the hands of someone so incapable of grasping its significance.

But, Trump supporters will march merrily onward in their delusions, advocating the slow deterioration of the country they actually believe they're bettering.

LOL that bit doesn't dispute anything the Washington Post wrote about. It wasn't methods or sources in dispute, it was the actual content of the intelligence that was allegedly discussed in the meeting with the Russians.

I see you are now being purposely obtuse because your attempt at a "gotcha!" fell flat. How boring.

From what I gathered, is this talking about the information being passed on about ISIS using laptops and other devices as bombs?

That's what I'm getting from the CNN article.

You mean, fake news article. CNN is fake news. Watch Fox News.

I'm not up in arms. The WaPo story has me curious, and i'll wait until more information is released to come to a conclusion as Trump's team has proven to be unreliable factually.

oh look, an alt.

Hey @horgen, can we make it so alts can't post until they hit 100 posts?
:D :D

Ok, my apologies. Certain people are up in arms. I'll leave it at that.

Ya, that's me...

Oh, I agree. I wouldn't have brought it up had I not been specifically addressing another post on legality.

This is an interesting predicament. One one hand the president is able to declassify any information at any point, it is the presidents prerogative -- on the other hand, this is not merely declassifying information, this is sharing top secret information with a long time rival and adversary.

To show how sensitive this information was:

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

Also, John McCain gives us an interesting insight into what should be the Congressional GOP opinion on the president sharing secrets. And then there is Paul Ryan from 2016.

@mattbbpl: Ah, well it's good we've cleared up our misunderstandings.

Ouch, looks like @LJS9502_basic embarrassed himself again with another fake news story.

From the same news outlet that imagined Russian hackers in our power grids. Not very bright to be taking these guys seriously lmao. I mean, do you guys forget about the constant things WApost gets wrong or do you just wake up the next day and forget it because they share your views on Trump? Or are you really that ignorant and shameless about it?

Lol

The fact your have to even ask is hilarious. Are you that ignorant or is your memory really all that short termed? I guess your mind just blocked out all the incredibly embarrassing things about your favorite publications. Sad!

Intelligence regarding psychos looking to blow up airliners should be widely shared. Unless of course, you think it is fine for other countries' airliners to be blown up.

Now why don't you tell me what specific information was shared that shouldn't have been shared.... I'll wait while you source your outrage with facts and details. You know, like real details. Not schlock like it is part of a super sensitive intelligence sharing agreement....unlike the non-super sensitive kind.

I am not sure which group is dumber....Trump and his advisers? or the great unwashed anti-Trump masses who will believe any headline they read with zero critical thought?

Meanwhile there is a certain paper which is doing an amazing job of driving traffic.

@KHAndAnime: you should start reading the things you post.

WAPost alleged the President divulged classified info. It's been denied by the Natl Security Adviser McMaster and specifically confirmed the article was fake. It's not very complicated. Are you really that desperate that all you have is to claw into news that's dismissed as fake the same day?

I'm enjoying the beautiful display of denial and cognitive dissonance from fans of the WA Compost.

Do you know what the problem even is?

It's not about sharing intelligence that there was a plot to blow up airliners with laptop batteries. The Trump administration came out not too long ago to warn the public on this. It's that Trump (if this accusation is to be believed) compromised the manner and general location of the source that's provided this intel. From what I've read it was not anything specifically mentioned but enough to point Russia into the general direction of that source. The articles are also saying that this intelligence was given away without the consent of who gathered it for us, and while Trump's legally within his rights to do that, it's nevertheless a breach of espionage etiquette which holds the potential to anger or scare our asset away from our confidence and compromise their security, which consequently weakens our own.

It fits perfectly with Trump. He probably didn't mean any harm with it if in fact this is what he did, he's just being typical Trump and acting without any thought as to the repercussions prior.

If you can't see the distinction then you're beyond hope.

One is sharing intelligence with Russia, the other is the president not only sharing intelligence but (again, if this is true) hinting as to how we attained it. That we and Russia hold a common desire to destroy ISIS in the sharing of knowledge doesn't mean we expose our methods of procuring it. They are not the same.

Well, that's that.

At this point no-one but you are to blame if you give that fool classified information. It's a wonder he didn't tweet it

Holy shit, someone who actually is taking this with a bit of common sense.

I give the same amount of credibility to the Washington Post and it´s anonymous sources as a Kellyann statement. I love the Post´s idea "Anonymous sources current and former wh staff" and it's not like it´s stories have ever been proven wrong cough "Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say" cough.....

LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP

lulz

You know, Nixon and his administration said similar things too. Were they true? And what happened again?

lol nothing but bootlickers here.

Hold hold up, breaking news bub:

LINK to Donald Trump's twitter

Well obviously it still sounds like fake news since it contradicts the official government story and obviously it's fake news since it's attacking the beloved Donald Trump. I mean, I don't know who this @realdonaldtrump is but he needs to stop attacking the president.

To expand on Drunk_PI's post above, Trump just contradicted another story from his White House staff.

After the story broke of him sharing intel with the Russians, the National Security Adviser and Deputy National Security Adviser stated that the Washington Post article that broke the story was false, but Trump just admitted via Twitter (no surprise) that the article was indeed true.

Full Story Here

You're comparing apples to oranges

In the first case (the Obama case) the entire instance was a plan between the White House and the State Department to potentially share information, in which all parties involved were aware of the circumstances.

Trump just divulged, laissez-faire style, classified information what was delivered to the US by an ally. As of now, no ancillary parties (such as the State Department, as they were involved in the process in the first article you mentioned) were said to have been aware of the corroboration between the president and Russian officials.

It came from WAPO you can wipe your butt with it.

The Trump team needs to coordinate their message a little better. First the classified talks didn't happen. Then it was only kinda classified stuff, then Trump hops on Twitter at 4 am to say he has the right to discuss what he wants with who he wants. Why is Fox only talking about the "fake news" angle here? Trump all but admitted he did it in his tweet.