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#1 VirusVaccine21
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NOTE: This is absolutely your personal opinion, as it's your predictions. Leaving that disclaimer.

My expectations, I think Biden has the edge. The 2018 and the insane local elections including governor seats that have flipped blue is showing that it's more a referendum on Trump - and probably a warning sign for the GOP. Some other takes:

  • Biden is way more popular than Clinton, which was heavily disliked.
  • Democrats won't stay home this time, they got arrogant in 2016
  • Biden appears to appeal to the rust belt, something neither Obama or Clinton could do
  • Trumps handling of the Coronavirus based on polls shows him widely unpopular
  • The economy isn't going to recover by November.
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I wish Biden was 10 years younger, he's not the perfect candidate. I do not like ALL of his policies, but they are not too bad. Independents like it, Left wingers like it. They aren't far leaning tilted like Bernie or Trump. Trump is just too far right,

He has the best shot out of the other candidates and I'm glad he won for it.

Trump's absolute fumbling of the corona virus will help Biden quite a bit.

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#3 LJS9502_basic
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Assuming everyone votes then Biden should win. But that assumes everyone votes.

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#5 Sevenizz
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@virusvaccine21: Biden is way more popular than Clinton, which was heavily disliked.

Wrong. Clinton had a lot of momentum being the first female candidate and was (oddly) a progressive favourite. She had endorsements from every living Hollywood celebrity - the only way to attract millennials because they’re poorly educated on politics.

Democrats won't stay home this time, they got arrogant in 2016

Actually, more will stay home in record numbers because of the China virus.

Biden appears to appeal to the rust belt, something neither Obama or Clinton could do

A Democrat appeals to the rust belt? How, by taking their jobs away to go green? Not happening.

Trumps handling of the Coronavirus based on polls shows him widely unpopular

What poll? CNN? Lulz.

The economy isn't going to recover by November.

I’m not sure you’ve heard, but the economy is in the shitter due to chi-na, not Trump.

Trump will easily trounce sleepy joe. You can take that to the bank!

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#6 LJS9502_basic
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@Sevenizz: Do you get paid by the word?

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#7 Sevenizz
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@LJS9502_basic: No, do you?

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#8 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I have no idea. I never thought Trump would be elected president. I'm still shocked at some of the support he gets.

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#9 MirkoS77
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Hate to say it, but Trump.

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#10 LJS9502_basic
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@Sevenizz said:

@LJS9502_basic: No, do you?

You seem confused over who pays and why...…….

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#11 Sevenizz
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@LJS9502_basic: Obviously you were going for the tried and true Democrat NPC talking point. Russian bot.

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#12 N64DD
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@LJS9502_basic: ever see the episode of the office where dwight interviews himself in front of jim for the management position?

Picture that and reread sevenizz’s post.

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#13  Edited By outworld222
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Trump will win by electoral college lol :P

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#14 LJS9502_basic
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@Sevenizz said:

@LJS9502_basic: Obviously you were going for the tried and true Democrat NPC talking point. Russian bot.

I bet I've voted for more different parties than you have...…...

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#15 Sevenizz
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@LJS9502_basic: I bet my dad can beat up your dad.

Oh look , an equally nonsensical reply!

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#16 LJS9502_basic
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@Sevenizz said:

@LJS9502_basic: I bet my dad can beat up your dad.

Oh look , an equally nonsensical reply!

Having a problem following a conversation you are...…...my comment was on point. Yours...….not. Go tell daddy now.

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#17  Edited By Zaryia
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@Sevenizz said:

@virusvaccine21: Biden is way more popular than Clinton, which was heavily disliked.

Wrong. Clinton had a lot of momentum being the first female candidate and was (oddly) a progressive favourite. She had endorsements from every living Hollywood celebrity - the only way to attract millennials because they’re poorly educated on politics.

Democrats won't stay home this time, they got arrogant in 2016

Actually, more will stay home in record numbers because of the China virus.

Biden appears to appeal to the rust belt, something neither Obama or Clinton could do

A Democrat appeals to the rust belt? How, by taking their jobs away to go green? Not happening.

Trumps handling of the Coronavirus based on polls shows him widely unpopular

What poll? CNN? Lulz.

The economy isn't going to recover by November.

I’m not sure you’ve heard, but the economy is in the shitter due to chi-na, not Trump.

Trump will easily trounce sleepy joe. You can take that to the bank!

What is this nonsense.

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#18 texasgoldrush
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Trump wins electoral college, Biden wins popular vote, picks up Penn and Mich but fails to win Wisc.

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#19 Sevenizz
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@LJS9502_basic: Ok...yoda.

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#20 Sevenizz
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@zaryia: It’s called reality.

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#21 DrLostRib
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the winner will be fucking old

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#22 N64DD
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This thread is going to shit fast.

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#23  Edited By Sevenizz
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@drlostrib: Should it go to an AOC with low life experience and wildly ambitious platforms of communism/socialism that would cripple an entire country in one term that would take a millennia to fix?

No thanks - I’ll take a codger any day of the week over an incompetent moron.

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#24 RatchetClank92
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There is no way people will vote Trump in again after his embarrassment of handling the corona pandemic.

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#25 h4veriYT
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Trump will win it .

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#26 Sevenizz
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@ratchetclank92: Funny, they said that in ‘16 too...

China caused the pandemic and Trump’s only fault is that he followed guidance from the WHO early on. They took the reigns as the so-called experts. We now know that to be a mistake as the WHO is in China’s pocket - a communist regime with a history of lies and deceit.

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#27 Serraph105
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Before we lost a decade's worth of job growth I was thinking that Trump would be the winner. Now though, when everything is getting crazy from an economics standpoint, and will only get crazier over the next few months I imagine, I think that any prediction making is going to be inherently flawed because you have to consider how people will react to this shit. How do people react to crazy information like that? Will people (the majority that is) get pissed and vote Trump out? Will they go tribal, hunker down, and say that Trump is the devil they know and understand? Something else entirely?

I think it's tough to predict the future in normal times, and only crazy/deluded people think that they can predict the future in crazy times.

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@Sevenizz said:

@drlostrib: Should it go to an AOC with low life experience and wildly ambitious platforms of communism/socialism that would cripple an entire country in one term that would take a millennia to fix?

No thanks - I’ll take a codger any day of the week over an incompetent moron.

It took less than a month to cripple the country under Trump, and he's got plenty of "life experience."

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#29  Edited By Sevenizz
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@Serraph105: This was a dumb reply. China caused the world’s economies to cripple - not Trump.

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#30 Xabiss
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If Trump gets the economy straight and is right opening up the country like he is, he wins by a landslide. If he is wrong and screws this up he will lose by a landslide. That is my prediction.

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#31  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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I just don't see Biden winning he's far to frail and Trump is a mad man that is only good at being a troll which appeals to his followers. The baby boomers would have to got out and really vote for Biden because people under 40 don't give a shit about another corporate Democrat that isn't going to make any real changes for them he will just be status quo Joe.

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#32 jeezers
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Trump wins with electoral vote and even squeezes out the popular vote.

Trump is high energy

Joe is low energy

Biden isnt all there, having a hard time getting sentences out.

He turns 78 this year, oldest president we ever had was Regan, and he was 77 walking out of his second term. Biden would be going into his first term older than when regan left office lol thats wild.

People still have questions regarding burisma and Biden. I havent forgot about that botched impeachment the dems pulled. Trying to say trump blackmailed ukraine. Had no evidence of a crime and still went for it out of spite. All that impeachment did was make me realize how crooked biden has been throughout his entire political career.

Also hunter bidens dealings in china, specifically with deals on Chinese banks.he walked away with over a billion dollars. Hunter Biden is a drug addict who got kicked out of the millitary and then got billion dollars from chineese banks because his daddy was the VP at the time.

Joe biden is an icoherent mess, im sure the democrats wish they could replace him with someone else. I think thats why people in the media were pushing about how great Andrew Cuomo is.

Biden cant speak, he cant even read a script now

Its abuse of the elderley that hes even running, hes obviously in mental decline.

We are in the middle of pandemic and i havent heard biden say anything that makes him sound like the right guy right now, he doesnt sound all there either, I was looking forward to seeing trump debate, the 2016 debates were funny.

The Joe Biden Trump debates are going to be SAD

Trumps going to tear him apart

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@Serraph105 said:
@Sevenizz said:

@drlostrib: Should it go to an AOC with low life experience and wildly ambitious platforms of communism/socialism that would cripple an entire country in one term that would take a millennia to fix?

No thanks - I’ll take a codger any day of the week over an incompetent moron.

It took less than a month to cripple the country under Trump, and he's got plenty of "life experience."

"Life experience" is overrated.

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#34  Edited By texasgoldrush
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Wow, the center-left just cannot see their hypocrisy.

And Biden's campaign told people to vote in the Illinois, Arizona, and Florida primaries and poll workers got sick. What a person to criticize trump for his slow response to the virus.

This guy tries to "create political reality" just like Trump does.

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#35 mrbojangles25
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My expectations, or rather my hope, are the people that "experimented" with Trump have sobered up and realize he did not drain the swamp, and will suck it up and vote for Biden.

But then again, the thing that got Trump elected in the first place--him not being a politician, not being diplomatic, not being an insider--might get him re-elected (of course it's all bullshit b/c if he was not a politician before, he sure is now).

I don't know, I think Biden will win. I think a lot of this will depend on who he picks for VP...has he done that yet?

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#36 npiet1
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4 MORE YEARS lol.

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#37 Shmiity
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I honestly, really dont know. Everyone was as shocked as I was when Trump won in 2016. I see some small signs that the advantage is Biden- but the Electoral college always scares me. I absolutely see a Popular vote victory for Biden- which amounts to nothing.

1. I am a Bernie stan, and so are all of my liberal Massachusetts social circles. Every single person is coming out en force to vote Biden to stop Trump. I forsee a much smaller "Bernie or Bust" coalition. Which is very important in NH/Maine- the parts of New England that are not as hyper blue as you'd think. That one red district in Maine could be huge.

2. I did not agree with the massive Clinton hate parade in 2016. Biden does not have the hate parade, which does work in his favor. I forsee far less 3rd party/non competitive voting this cycle.

3. Trump's only two talking points are unemployment and the Economy, both of which will still be in the pits in November. So many centrists vote with their wallet- so I see this as advantage Biden.

4. Voters are just NOT very idealogical in general. I just think the general population is very, very tired of all the Trump stuff. Love him, hate him, or inbetween. Everyone is politically exhausted and I think more center-right voters will vote away from Trump just to stop all the BS. The lack of congressional action, all the investigations, the terrible news conferences, the circus media, all of it.

5. My biggest reasoning for Trump winning? Democrats need ALL THREE of the states from last time to flip back to blue. MI, WI, and PA. Thats a lot to ask. And I do not forsee any red states going blue. If any red state goes blue- Trump is doomed, IMO. But thats not happening.

Here's an f'ing scenario that I think is very realistic: I actually forsee a very, very real 269 to 269 tie happening. Trump wins WI, but loses PA and MI. If Maine goes all Blue? Thats a very, very real 269 split. And then Trump wins anyway by the tiebreaker rules.

Here's a link to my 269-269 tie prediction:

https://www.270towin.com/maps/1Np93.png

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#38 Xabiss
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Screw it, I am just going to write in Dan Crenshaw. This is who I would want to be my president so that is who I will write in. I like the guy and I like a lot of his views, not all of them. Screw both Trump and Biden!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=841&v=RTGBJMDcras&feature=emb_logo

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#39 Sevenizz
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@Xabiss: Dan Crenshaw is certainly someone to look out for in the future. He checks all the boxes of what a politician should be. He’s smart and down to earth, a veteran, charismatic, and a compassionate human being. I fully expect big things in his political career. Maybe after Trump’s second term?

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#40  Edited By deactivated-6068afec1b77d
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Biden will have a comeback for Trump

This is my version of the comeback.

"If Trump wins, he will initiative nuclear war with China, NK, Iran and other countries he doesn't like. Also, he will team up with Russia and double penetrate EU .Then both of them will divide Europe with putin getting the eastern portion and trump getting the western portion. Then, they will team up against China and cause mass genocide on the Chinese and other people he doesn't like."

Trump is playing this game really nasty so I think this fair enough for Biden. This is the time for using some of his cheat codes if he has one.

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@watercrack445: I don't think there's enough dumb people on the left to believe that, not the same way as there were enough stupid people in the right to believe that if Hilary won WW3 was going to happen.

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#43 Kadin_Kai
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In a rational world, Trump's presidency is over for numerous reasons. But we're not in a rational world.

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#44 npiet1
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@Xabiss said:

Screw it, I am just going to write in Dan Crenshaw. This is who I would want to be my president so that is who I will write in. I like the guy and I like a lot of his views, not all of them. Screw both Trump and Biden!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=841&v=RTGBJMDcras&feature=emb_logo

He has a decent shot for it, if he ever ran.

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#45 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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America is going to have a pirate as president?

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#46  Edited By ad1x2
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@Shmiity said:

Here's an f'ing scenario that I think is very realistic: I actually forsee a very, very real 269 to 269 tie happening. Trump wins WI, but loses PA and MI. If Maine goes all Blue? Thats a very, very real 269 split. And then Trump wins anyway by the tiebreaker rules.

Here's a link to my 269-269 tie prediction:

https://www.270towin.com/maps/1Np93.png

If neither one of them got 270 votes, Congress would decide who the president and vice president are. Assuming only Biden and Trump got votes (no faithless electors like with Trump vs. Hillary Clinton) we could potentially end up with Biden as president and Pence still doing a second term as vice president depending upon how the house's majority is broken down by state (too lazy to look at it right now, but this website explains it).

On the other hand, if there was at least one faithless elector and they don't cast their vote for either Biden or Trump, then that adds a third person to the vote the House has to do and depending upon who it is (Andrew Cuomo, for example) who knows what will happen. The House picked John Quincy Adams in 1824 despite him having fewer electoral votes than Andrew Jackson.

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#47 Xabiss
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@Sevenizz said:

@Xabiss: Dan Crenshaw is certainly someone to look out for in the future. He checks all the boxes of what a politician should be. He’s smart and down to earth, a veteran, charismatic, and a compassionate human being. I fully expect big things in his political career. Maybe after Trump’s second term?

I really like the guy and right now he has 100% of my support. It has been over 10 years since I have liked someone politically as much as this guy. So I am all for it. DAN CRENSHAW 2020 and 2024! :)

Now I just hope he doesn't have any ghost in his closet and ruins it.

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@Sevenizz said:

@drlostrib: Should it go to an AOC with low life experience and wildly ambitious platforms of communism/socialism that would cripple an entire country in one term that would take a millennia to fix?

No thanks - I’ll take a codger any day of the week over an incompetent moron.

...what does AOC have to do with anything? Even if she were eligible

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I predict 1/3 of the country will be overly dramatic when their opponent wins. The other 1/3 will be overly annoying for the victory, and the last 1/3 don't give two craps either way and won't even go to the polls.

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#50 Sevenizz
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@drlostrib: It’s obviously a ‘what if’ scenario. It’s scary enough to think she has any supporters, let alone a chance at the highest position in the land.