A preview of what happens when Democrats do not properly vet their nominee.

And here we go, Trump opens up his huge campaign account and has began his assault against Biden, and as a leftist who usually votes Democrat, I have to say, this is a great campaign ad from Trump.

Trump does a few key things here. First, he hits Biden on his "support" of China throughout his career and ties Hunter to China as well. This shows how extensive the opposition research on Biden can be. Second, it exploits American's negative view on China and makes the attempt to cover up Trump's poor handling of the pandemic by blaming China. Third, he catches Biden in a flip flop by showing he agreed with Trump on banning travel to and from China despite calling it "xenophobic" before. And lastly, he gets the stutters and stumbles from Biden in, in an attempt to put his declining mental acuity on display.

Highly effective ad, and here is the thing. Trump has a MASSIVE campaign finance advantage and a MASSIVE technological advantage over Biden, maybe the biggest advantage ever for an incumbent. This allows Trump not only able to be more forceful in his messaging and in getting it out, but allows his campaign more flexibility.

Trump strategy right now is to reduce Biden and define the challenger early, like Bush in 2004 and Obama in 2012 were able to do. His campaign advantages make it even easier. And if the pandemic slows and the economy rebounds, he can pivot to a positive message while still burying Biden in attack ads and would definitely win re-election.

This is what happens when a nominee is not properly vetted. Democrats nominated a candidate with a huge opposition research file, declining mental acuity, a major enthusiasm gap, and a problem handling campaign finance and raising money. Plopping a dead donkey over the line can win in primaries, but is a sure loser in general elections. And I will say this, Biden has traits far more in common with general election losers than winners.

That's nothing burger trash. Trump has even more shady ties with China lol.

The Bernie advertisements would have been much worse.

@zaryia: you scared already?

Thing is, anything Trump has against Biden there's always something worse on him.

Might be a question of being effective on transmitting a message or how lower is Biden willing to go but in my opinion it's possible that Trump cornered himself too much into the extreme right to be able to spread whatever he has to say all the way across to the centre. Plus that same extreme right base will be a problem for Trump as I expect their actions in the coming times to be "not so good" and easy to tie them to Trump's rhetoric.

On the other hand I expect both China and Russia to give a big help towards a Trump re-election on how he is perceived by the American electorate. They'll happily keep occupying US's growing void within international institutions while dick slapping Trump every chance they get like they've been doing for the last few years.

Campaign ads are NEVER a good source for facts. /thread

I'm beginning to think that you are not actually a bernie supporter, but rather one of these russian plants trying to influence the vote.

You know there is a few people posting here that I wonder about. I mean a gaming site wouldn't be too important I would think but some of these posts here give me pause.

Yep. Biden was not a great choice, and Trump will have plenty of fodder for his smear campaigns. As someone said, anything bad you can say about Biden there is worse to say about Trump, but Republicans consistently show up to vote anyway. Democrats are going to have a hard time getting independents and non-committal dems to the polls with such a weak candidate.

I'll vote for Biden, but I'm not excited about it.

Not just democrats but independents and disgusted republicans. They just need to make sure they vote and he's done.

Probably lots of hacked accounts. Not because this site has been hacked, but since other sites have been, and the same email/password combo has been used here.

Interesting. Vladimir doesn't scare me. LOL

And highly annoying.

I guess you can come to that conclusion if you can surgically remove his lips from AOC's ass going by his post history.

Yes, there are some concern trolls out there, and he may or may not be one of them. Or he can simply be a 2020 Bernie or Bust guy, just like the ones that probably cost Hillary the election in 2016.

It's interesting that I don't see a single Democrat supporter actually denying anything bad stuff about Biden. It's all just "But Trump is worse!"...

I guess last election when the major critique against the Republicans was that they were electing a genuinely bad person to lead, the Democrat supporters internalized that as justification for doing the same themselves. I think your moral high horse has been chopped off at the knees for this election Democrats.

What bad stuff? The right making fun of him?

You're the guy who cries that my posts are flame-baiting then you post this. Typical conservative snowflake!

Anyway, what would I be scared about? Trump has even more shady Chinese ties and Biden beats him in every poll since 2018.

I mean that's a pretty legitimate response. A lot of that Biden stuff is campy gaffs or fake conspiracy theories, nothing really major. Trump is far worse in all that "bad stuff".

Pretty good reason to vote for Biden, apart from liking center-left policies over far-right ones.

And this is actually a pretty weak campaign attack ad for Trump's team tbh.

Honestly, big deal. Trump has business ties in China, Russia and other dictatorships. I wish republicans understood that democrats won't really care this election about Biden's flaws. They literally elected a reality TV star that has bankrupted most of his businesses and talks like a toddler, who cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star.

@zaryia: Why are you so mad lately.

And LOL at the polls, Hillary was 92 percent going to win according to polls.

Trump 2020 boys!

Don't hold your breath there chief.

@LJS9502_basic: how about we bet on it and loser leaves the forums for good?

Oh boy, the Russian plant charge.....a common charge among the center left to those who speak out against Biden. Its all a Russian conspiracy.

No, I supported and attended rallies for Harris and Warren as well as Sanders. Never mind, AOC is liked by supporters of other candidates than Sanders, which was shown when AOC visited Iowa.

This, absolutely this. And the center left and the media have been absolutely hypocritical.

I know an executive that brushed off the virus and said the panic is worse, was slow to react to the virus with deadly results, is trying to cut health care before the pandemic, fights with everyone, and tries to shut down his political rivals.

I am not talking about Trump, I am talking about Andrew Cuomo.

You have too many accounts dude. Do you actually think this a slam dunk? Biden is more popular than Hilary was. trump is not popular except with his base. His base isn't large enough. And I don't do stupid forum bets. That's for kids.

@LJS9502_basic: I'll take that bet, I dont have any alts, of coarse I could always make a new account if I wanted, as could you. But our main accounts would be banned depending on the winner 🏆. Come on take the bet with me LJS. bawk bawk lol

Sleepy Joe might be the worst candidate for president in US history (beating Hillary by a hair). He’s frail, shows early signs of dementia, has lots of baggage, and doesn’t have a very strong base. He will lose in a huge landslide.

Trump 2020!

I said I don't do forum bets. And making a new account would negate that so apparently you plan to cheat.

So he has the same attributes as trump. Gotcha.

Honestly, Trump has and will be the worst candidate in US history. Second, Hillary. Biden is probably third in recent political history, but in all honestly this goes to show how dumb Americans have become.

Where did you get this fake news from? Real Clear Politics had her two points ahead of Trump nationally, that's within the margin of error. She had all the possibilities to lose.

WRONG

President Trump is more popular than candidate Trump, in a way where it can cancel out Biden's more popularity compared to Clinton.

And with that being the case, the candidate with the more enthusiastic base wins, and thats Trump.

What's with the aggressive shit posting and starting off the thread with random personal attacks right after crying about flame-baiting and anti-conservative sentiment in other threads?

1. No poll said that after April 2016 for Hillary. In fact no poll ever said 92%, you might be thinking EC Predictions.

2. I'm not saying Biden will win for sure, I'm saying this Chinese conspiracy theories gained little traction and aren't hurting him that much and the data shows it. Trump has even worse Chinese shadyness yet you guy don't care. This advertisement is tame.

This simply isn't on the level of something like Buttery Males or Benghazi. I don't expect some bombshell FBI report on Biden in October 2020. This is a dead pipedream for Trumpers who are now in panic mode over his Corona failure.

Lmao anyone under 40 liking far right policies that result in low Human Developement Index (even in USA). BIG yikes.

Dude stop, the Bernie advertisements would have been 10x worse, and Biden did better in every poll Vs. Trump. So no matter how bad you think Biden will do - Bernie would have done worse.

People eat that Bernie Communism shit up. The Biden China stuff is a dead conspiracy theory and has no traction.

No Biden isn't a perfect candidate, but he had the best shot vs all the others. Trump is so horrific that he has a good chance to win. This is a numbers game, realism matters.

You aren't taking into consideration the enthusiasm to remove trump...…...

LOL no. He's the least popular per polls for the last 12 presidents.

Sorry but if you're paying attention to campaign ads from any side of the political spectrum you're being misinformed. And intentionally so, at that.

Less popular than George W Bush? WRONG

And Trump is more popular now than he was as a candidate in 2016. FACT

Just because you and I don't like him doesn't mean we can ignore clear facts that inconvenience us.

That isn't an opinion. It's based on facts. Has nothing to do with how I feel about him. I've never been polled.

WRONG

The reason why Trump campaign is doing it is because it polls well in internal polling. China is held with highly unfavorable views in polling.

Non ideological attacks are far more effective than ideological ones. History has shown this.

Dukakis did better than Bush at this point of the 1988 election. Your point? head to head polling is not predictive at this point of the election. And lastly, Bernie actually outperformed Biden in polling against Trump after Nevada but before South Carolina, so their is a "winning" effect too, nevermind name recognition bias that hurt the other candidates.

Campaign ads matter. See Daisy when LBJ nuked Goldwater. See Dukakis in the tank, etc.

And lookie here......Trump has got Biden playing on his terms.

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-ad-china-trump-coronavirus-racist-xenophobic-2020-4

Dude that's what elections are about: picking the "least worse" person for the job.

Is Biden good for the job? Clinton? Sanders? No, none of them are ideal. But they're all better than Trump.

I think its pretty safe to conclude that this "Biden stands up for China" shit landed like a wet fart. Absolutely no effect on political discourse. Trump's approval overall and his approval on COVID specifically are slipping, his rally around the flag effect has completely vanished, and Biden's lead over Trump nationally is *growing*, not shrinking.

Trump doesn't even need to pay for attack ads. He can just retweet them

lmao that vid! Trump is the greatest president in my lifetime. I'm going to miss him after his 2nd term. He truly is the first meme president, never have i seen a president utilize social media to this level. Trump has a solid team working for him as well.

With such a heavy media bias stacked against him, his social media is the way he can counter that narrative directly.

Trumps a beast and they always underestimate him. I think hes going to win much bigger than he did against Hillary and alot of liberals are going to be sitting in disbelief... just like 2016... hes going to get a bigger win this time. Hillary tho hated, could atleast speak and had a large amount of the female vote come out in support. Good luck biden lol

Because he trolls and acts like a 12 year old? Yikes. New to politics? Hell do you even care about the politics and just like the memes?

.....Idiocracy on full display. Either that or you're too scared to admit you like his far right policies.

With over 10,000+ false statements? That'll show those liars!

He's one of the most unpopular presidents in history and now his economic track record is in the shitter, like many other Republicans Presidents.

What is he a beast at? Everyone making fun of him because of horrible tweeting?

Have you heard Trump talk? It's like a little kid on drugs.

There isn't much else at this point. What other bars can he claim to have cleared?

Technically going below the bar is still clearing it. Winning!

@zaryia: zaryia make a bet with me

If trump wins you deactivate your main account.

If biden wins I deactivate my main account.

I understand we can both just post under a different name, but make the bet and if biden wins you never see jeezers again, if trump wins i never see zaryia again. It will make this election a little more interesting in regards to this forum.

I tried to get LJS to make the bet, but hes a coward that doesnt have any real faith that Biden can win so he chickened out.

If you are so sure Bidens going to beat Trump take the bet. It will be fun.