SOCOM 4 had dismal sales - sweet karma for messing up the series!

Link re: sales: http://www.destructoid.com/uk-charts-portal-2-wins-socom-4-not-so-much--199656.phtml

I'm really glad about this.

I was worried that it would sell really well, therby gauranteeing that we would never again see a real SOCOM game.

The dismal sales will also encourage other game series to not try to CODify their games.

Now they will hopefully make a real SOCOM game next.

(And the dismissal sales are NOT due to the PSN going down - they had time to get enough sales in before the PSN issue to at least crack the top 20).

Hah, I can't believe Red River beat Socom, oh god that's good stuff! I was never a Socom fan so it's no skin off my back, they just didn't make a game that stood out on its own I guess.

Edit: Good lord this game must be terrible if Michael 2: the experience beat it, ouch.

good, after zipper ignored their hardcore socom fans and made another call of duty, i hope the socom 4 sales keep doing bad

Link re: sales: http://www.destructoid.com/uk-charts-portal-2-wins-socom-4-not-so-much--199656.phtml

I'm really glad about this.

I was worried that it would sell really well, therby gauranteeing that we would never again see a real SOCOM game.

The dismal sales will also encourage other game series to not try to CODify their games.

Now they will hopefully make a real SOCOM game next.

(And the dismissal sales are NOT due to the PSN going down - they had time to get enough sales in before the PSN issue to at least crack the top 20).

Jason_A

I think people are just military shootered out. Even if it was a great game, it probably wouldn't have sold well. We keep on seeing the same stuff out there.

Wow, OFP beat Socom....that's just sad.

OFP, at least the last one, was total junk!!!!

Meh, its still a good game even though its a lot different from what it used to be. I do expect sales to get better mainly because I do think the PSN outage really affected its sales.

I think you're taking this out of proportion, SOCOM has never sold very well in the UK, or anywhere really, except for North America. Operation Flashpoint has always been a good seller in the UK, with the original getting to no. 1 and Dragon Rising to 2 in the UK charts.

I think you're taking this out of proportion, SOCOM has never sold very well in the UK, or anywhere really, except for North America. Operation Flashpoint has always been a good seller in the UK, with the original getting to no. 1 and Dragon Rising to 2 in the UK charts.

kkee

yup, most people who don't play much socom don't realise that socom is a u.s. military based game and i don't think the uk wants to play as a american defending the u.s. from a disaster

[QUOTE="kkee"]

I think you're taking this out of proportion, SOCOM has never sold very well in the UK, or anywhere really, except for North America. Operation Flashpoint has always been a good seller in the UK, with the original getting to no. 1 and Dragon Rising to 2 in the UK charts.

barry000

yup, most people who don't play much socom don't realise that socom is a u.s. military based game and i don't think the uk wants to play as a american defending the u.s. from a disaster

It's still pretty dismal sales to not even make the top 20, I'm sure it will do better in the US. Though PSN being down probably has a good chunk to do with lost sales so I'm sure it will hurt a bit worldwide until PSN gets back up.

A shame because the game is not really bad at all if you don't masure it against the "SOCOM" name, it seriously has every bit the level of quality of games like Black Ops and whatnot and those games never seem to take a hit for being "more of the same". But at the same time I wouldn't mind seeing developers start reversing the trend of "dumbing down" all their series to be "more like Call of Duty". There is no good reason for a game like this to not even be able to command your squad other than to be able to point to spots on the ground. That's just silly in a "tactical shooter".

As much as I love the real SOCOM games. I still did enjoy SOCOM 4.Canuck3k

Same here. As a 3rd person shooter it is excellent. What other 3rd person shooters on consoles besides Uncharted and Gears are even CLOSE to this well polished, and have the same level of features (custom missions including co-op, lots of multiplayer modes, etc)?

However as a tactical shooter, it is a bit disappointing. In fact I will probably enjoy the Operation Flashpoint campaign alot more just becasue it at least has reasonably deep controlls of squad tactics, but then that game basically DOESN'T EVEN HAVE online multiplayer. As an overall package I'm quite sure SOCOM4 lives up just fine, it's just not "tactical". Another game dragged down a bit by unfair expectations of it's own name, being judged against itself instead of vs the competition.

But like I said above, I hope this is a bit of a lesson to other developers. The "dumbing down" to be like Call of Duty has to stop. If they were going to make a pure shooter with minimal tactics, they should have just made up another IP like MAG, and not really used the SOCOM name. So in a sense Zipper was asking for it with these haters.

[QUOTE="kkee"]

I think you're taking this out of proportion, SOCOM has never sold very well in the UK, or anywhere really, except for North America. Operation Flashpoint has always been a good seller in the UK, with the original getting to no. 1 and Dragon Rising to 2 in the UK charts.

barry000

yup, most people who don't play much socom don't realise that socom is a u.s. military based game and i don't think the uk wants to play as a american defending the u.s. from a disaster

I have the game...I just want to be able to play it online. I have not even tried it yet.

Link re: sales: http://www.destructoid.com/uk-charts-portal-2-wins-socom-4-not-so-much--199656.phtml

I'm really glad about this.

I was worried that it would sell really well, therby gauranteeing that we would never again see a real SOCOM game.

The dismal sales will also encourage other game series to not try to CODify their games.

Now they will hopefully make a real SOCOM game next.

(And the dismissal sales are NOT due to the PSN going down - they had time to get enough sales in before the PSN issue to at least crack the top 20).

Jason_A

I'm pretty sure that the PSN outage is the biggest factor

Socom 4 is pretty fun really. Its sad that so called "true socom" fans cant take their favortie series for where it is going. Its like football, you gotaa give your team and chance and not just drop em when you feel like they are not going where you want them to.Wheres the faith?

[QUOTE="barry000"]

[QUOTE="kkee"]

I think you're taking this out of proportion, SOCOM has never sold very well in the UK, or anywhere really, except for North America. Operation Flashpoint has always been a good seller in the UK, with the original getting to no. 1 and Dragon Rising to 2 in the UK charts.

Tetrarch9

yup, most people who don't play much socom don't realise that socom is a u.s. military based game and i don't think the uk wants to play as a american defending the u.s. from a disaster

Call of Duty 1, 4, and Modern Warfare 2 allow you to take roles of UK soldiers.

Socom 4 is pretty fun really. Its sad that so called "true socom" fans cant take their favortie series for where it is going. Its like football, you gotaa give your team and chance and not just drop em when you feel like they are not going where you want them to.Wheres the faith?

MaKillaGorilla

Its just that, the players made it what it was, now it seems like everyone just gave up. I understand it has its flaws and its not much like the old ones. But if people were to get into it like the old ones, would it not be what it was? Anything can be awesome if you make it. Enjoy it for what it is i guess.

The down time of PSN is not forever

well im sure the main reason it hasn't sold well is because right when it released PSN went down and this game is more focused on multiplayer.

Yeah I loved SOCOM and after playing the BETA for 4 I just figured the series is dead so not a big suprise to me.wooooode

[QUOTE="wooooode"]Yeah I loved SOCOM and after playing the BETA for 4 I just figured the series is dead so not a big suprise to me.ultraking

i like socom 4 and im glad i bought it, im sure in time there will be a boost in sales or at least more ppl hop on it. but i dont regret my purchase one bit. im enjoying the SP and i was enjoying the beta which was for the online part, which i also liked and enjoyed. so oh well i guess for those who arent getting it, aint my loss reallyJoKeR_421

iam not a fan of duck and cover shooters i find them cowardly so i don't like socom 4 but i have a feeling that the sales are low because of the psn problemelbert_b_23

touche

The down time of PSN is not forever

MaKillaGorilla

[QUOTE="JoKeR_421"]i like socom 4 and im glad i bought it, im sure in time there will be a boost in sales or at least more ppl hop on it. but i dont regret my purchase one bit. im enjoying the SP and i was enjoying the beta which was for the online part, which i also liked and enjoyed. so oh well i guess for those who arent getting it, aint my loss reallyJason_A

Confrontation was trashed bigtime and had a crap load of connection issues and still had a crap load of people playing years after release.

I think this one will be fine and do even better when PSN is back up.

kind of hard to sell an online game when your online isnt working

So what, they didn't do a remake. Even if they did people would be mad about that. It's a lose/lose situation.

I thoroughly enjoyed the single player campaign... on elite anyway... but the game certainly isn't the SOCOM I remember by any means. Not surprised at all by it's lackluster sales.

[QUOTE="Jason_A"][QUOTE="JoKeR_421"]i like socom 4 and im glad i bought it, im sure in time there will be a boost in sales or at least more ppl hop on it. but i dont regret my purchase one bit. im enjoying the SP and i was enjoying the beta which was for the online part, which i also liked and enjoyed. so oh well i guess for those who arent getting it, aint my loss reallyBSC14

Confrontation was trashed bigtime and had a crap load of connection issues and still had a crap load of people playing years after release.

I think this one will be fine and do even better when PSN is back up.

Confrontation was the most played exclusive on the PSN last year. That is what a hardcore fanbase can do for you when you cater to them.BrianB0422

You have a link that states this?

[QUOTE="BrianB0422"]Confrontation was the most played exclusive on the PSN last year. That is what a hardcore fanbase can do for you when you cater to them.ExoticAnimal

You have a link that states this?

Mark Rogers was on a Zipper podcast and stated as such some time last year. They have taken down all of the "old" podcasts so I cannot link it, but it is referenced here.

Confrontataion was the most played exlcusive last year. Simply type it in at google and you cansee that. I played Socom 4 the first day and a half it was out. Fun stuff.

http://forums.playfire.com/general-discussion/thread/43402

[QUOTE="BrianB0422"]Confrontation was the most played exclusive on the PSN last year. That is what a hardcore fanbase can do for you when you cater to them.ExoticAnimal

You have a link that states this?

and the fact it was offline might be a reason lol