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#1 jeffbase33
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Ugh, these reviewers are really pissing me off! Every game lately has been getting bad reviews, and destroying the excitement I had for these titles. Haze, Too Human, Mercs 2, and now this game.

This game has been hyped up for over a year to be a truly awesome SW experience. Plus I had a blast with the demo. Yet, EGM gave it a C with their biggest complaint that the game gets boring. After the first level, you start hitting roadblocks with your force powers and you no longer have that almighty powerful sensation.

I don't care. I'm still going to pick up this title along with Mercs 2!

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#2 Berserkerz
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lol i dont get it either man,
like Assassin's Creed is EXACTLY like Mercs2, but w/ swords.
repetitive, bad story, and buggy.
i like both these games, and i think ones overrated, and ones underrated.
theyre average games, and if you like those games then review it, and prove them wrong man.
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#3 furrball6
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Just goes to show that professional reviews aren't the final say of whether one person will enjoy a game or not; the gamer is. I know I will be enjoying TFU on September 16 no matter what magazines/websites say.
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#4 Berserkerz
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lol yeagh. find other websites who uses the morethanonereviewer system lol, it helps SO much more.
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Just goes to show that professional reviews aren't the final say of whether one person will enjoy a game or not; the gamer is. I know I will be enjoying TFU on September 16 no matter what magazines/websites say.furrball6

Those reviewers aren't saying it to spite you; they're saying it because that's what they're supposed to do, review a game. It does suck that so many games this year have flopped, but you shouldn't go out and spend your money just because you're mad that so many of your anticipated games didn't do so well. Don't get me wrong, if you enjoy it then by all means, go after it. Nobody should buy games just according to reviewers. But when reviewers mention that there are bugs, bad gameplay issues, and crappy camera, then mabe you should be a little more cautious.

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#6 pseudocaesar
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I think the thing is, these games are too hyped up. Reviewers are supposed to non objective about what they review, but lets face it. Everyone has been so excited for SW:FU that when the time comes to play it, it just doesnt deliver what you expected even if it may be a great game.
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#7 MorkkiTH
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I don't care about those reviews. I'm still going to get Mercs 2 and SW: FU
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#8 True-Legend86
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I agree with you, I had a blast with the demo as well. And not a real big Star Wars Fan, but I plan on picking this game up.
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#9 True-Legend86
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Just goes to show that professional reviews aren't the final say of whether one person will enjoy a game or not; the gamer is. I know I will be enjoying TFU on September 16 no matter what magazines/websites say. furrball6

Exactly my thoughts.

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#10 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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A review is merely an opinion. Check out the game for yourself, and form your own "review"......
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#11 furrball6
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Those reviewers aren't saying it to spite you; they're saying it because that's what they're supposed to do, review a game. It does suck that so many games this year have flopped, but you shouldn't go out and spend your money just because you're mad that so many of your anticipated games didn't do so well. Don't get me wrong, if you enjoy it then by all means, go after it. Nobody should buy games just according to reviewers. But when reviewers mention that there are bugs, bad gameplay issues, and crappy camera, then mabe you should be a little more cautious.

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I understand they don't have every person's individual tastes in mind when they're reviewing a game. Otherwise there would be no 'official' reviews. But like you said, if you enjoy it then go after it :D which is what I plan on doing because I enjoy Star Wars in general and the demo was awesome for me. It seems to be getting mostly 7.0-7.5 scores (except for EGM) which isn't bad by any means so that gives me hope too

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#12 ExplosiveChorro
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if i had enough money for all these dam games that are coming out that i want i would be getting TFU but not anymore. i hate wasting my money.
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#13 kenshinhimura16
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I dont care about reviews, last gen my fav game was the .Hack series, they had an amazing story which kept me going and going. Reviewers normally follow trends, and some games receive more than they should, and others less than they should. TFU combat is not great, I will be the first to admit it, but the physics engine sets it apart from the rest, since no other game has a compeling physics engine as this. Also, its not that the combat is bad, its standard, which means that it can be an extremely entertaining game to play (Its a day one for me, partly cause Im a SW fanboy).

Reviewers should not be your deciding factor. In my opinion, the best friend we got in this era is the internet. we can get access to gamers opinion (if you are going to check conflictive games as Lair and Haze, look for the gamers reviews that are long, and show that they actually played the game and not copied reviewers flak). Also, our most useful tool: VIDEOS and DEMOS. Those 2 are my best friends this gen.

Im gonna love the game most likely, we have to also understand that the western society is bit*chy about certain subjects, which we may be less bothered by. I mean, we (1985 up) are more open to certain ideas, and plots. Reviewers most of the time are not, or because of their jobs (or so I want to believe) cant give much care into the story, thus most JRPGs flunk while they excel in RPG specialized sites as RPGfan and RPGgamer.

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#14 navstar29
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if it gets more bad reviews, and considering there is only a single player campaign (i think?) this game will go from a buy to a rent for me. I don't normally trust reviews (AC, R&C, HS, Uncharted) but there's so many other games coming up in september and october and novemeber that i'd rather own, so I most likely will rent to save my money.
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#15 skp_16
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Don't let reviews affect your decision on getting it and on what you think about the game.

If the game is great for you, then good for you. And don't trust reviews.

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#16 jeffbase33
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I think the thing is, these games are too hyped up. Reviewers are supposed to non objective about what they review, but lets face it. Everyone has been so excited for SW:FU that when the time comes to play it, it just doesnt deliver what you expected even if it may be a great game.pseudocaesar

I think that is the element that is pissing me off. For months, these same reviewers will give us previews, tell us that this game will be the next best thing since slice bread, get us all excited. Then the review comes out, oh yea, forget everything we said ,the game sucks. It is deflating.

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#17 Staryoshi87
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I enjoyed the demo, I enjoyed gamespot's marathon, I love star wars, I've read the reviews, I'm buying the game. Reviews are factored into my decision making process, but they don't make or break my purchase decisions. That said, I think it's ignorant to outright ignore reviews. Just about every review contains information valuable to the decision making process.

Here's the meta for future reference: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/starwarstheforceunleashed#critics

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#18 septemberluc
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[QUOTE="pseudocaesar"]I think the thing is, these games are too hyped up. Reviewers are supposed to non objective about what they review, but lets face it. Everyone has been so excited for SW:FU that when the time comes to play it, it just doesnt deliver what you expected even if it may be a great game.jeffbase33

I think that is the element that is pissing me off. For months, these same reviewers will give us previews, tell us that this game will be the next best thing since slice bread, get us all excited. Then the review comes out, oh yea, forget everything we said ,the game sucks. It is deflating.



Very nicely put.
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#19 mohmaaytah
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I don't see what there is to disappoint the reviewers. I watched the marathon and enjoyed all 2 hours of it, and I wasn't even playing! How often can you say a game is good to watch? Maybe reviewers are getting too picky but this game ticked all of my boxes and it tops my buy list at the moment.
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#20 Symphonycometh
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I love these threads. It basically scripts the reason why we're not getting any legendary games too often anymore. People buy smit regardless. :P
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#21 shadowkiller11
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i only start getting cautious of a game when the majority are saying its not so good or so. though i liked haze and having fun with mercs 2 its just gamespot who are really giving it a mediocre review.
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#22 NuKkU
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dont trash the reviewers they are telling there opinions also Too Human sucked and mercs is supposed be SUPER glitchy and buggy and i kind of had a feeling SW:FU wasnt gonna be that good its was overhyped these reviewers are telling there opinions if u dont believe them THEN STOP READING THEM
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#23 Silent-Hal
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I love these threads. It basically scripts the reason why we're not getting any legendary games too often anymore. People buy smit regardless. :PSymphonycometh

Agreed. The funny thing is, reviews are right more often than not. If the reviewer sees a flaw in the game, that flaw is there, no matter how hard you try to ignore it. You may have fun with the game or just think it looks cool (something looking cool doesn't always equal it working in actual gameplay), but a bad game is still a bad game.

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[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]I love these threads. It basically scripts the reason why we're not getting any legendary games too often anymore. People buy smit regardless. :PSilent-Hal

Agreed. The funny thing is, reviews are right more often than not. If the reviewer sees a flaw in the game, that flaw is there, no matter how hard you try to ignore it. You may have fun with the game or just think it looks cool (something looking cool doesn't always equal it working in actual gameplay), but a bad game is still a bad game.

exactly. Alot of the people in this thread are saying "oh reviews are just opinion i will still get this" but if something is seriously flawed it's not just an opinion. just save your money for the dozens of games coming out this fall T.T
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#25 MusashiSensi
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Ugh, these reviewers are really pissing me off! Every game lately has been getting bad reviews, and destroying the excitement I had for these titles. Haze, Too Human, Mercs 2, and now this game.

This game has been hyped up for over a year to be a truly awesome SW experience. Plus I had a blast with the demo. Yet, EGM gave it a C with their biggest complaint that the game gets boring. After the first level, you start hitting roadblocks with your force powers and you no longer have that almighty powerful sensation.

I don't care. I'm still going to pick up this title along with Mercs 2!

jeffbase33

It's their opinion, so deal with it or ignore it.

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#26 soren008
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People buy smit regardless. :PSymphonycometh

Truth.

Excess money & Hype & Boredom contribute ...

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#27 PS3videos
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Well, I have to agree with any bad reviews of Haze, Too Human and Mercs 2. All three came in way over hyped and half-baked. I played the Star Wars demo and was completely bored. But I'm not a big Star Wars fan. So I have the luxury of judging the game on its own merit.

The problem with average games this fall is that they're going against very strong games, including Gears of War 2, LBP, Socom and Resistance. So the great games will make the bad games look worse.

Still, buy the games you want and let the critics do what they do.

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#28 Keasy4
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Haze and 2 human to my eyes sucks, mercs 2 is a good game.. starwars since i played the demo seems like a cool game which imma still pick up.. if i listen to reviews i wouldnt own much games..
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#29 Symphonycometh
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Haze and 2 human to my eyes sucks, mercs 2 is a good game.. starwars since i played the demo seems like a cool game which imma still pick up.. if i listen to reviews i wouldnt own much games..Keasy4
I go by my gut feeling...and I still don't own too many games...you know...since I normally only choose the queens of the crop. =D
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#30 supa_badman
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meh saw it coming

but no one believed me.

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^ Shoot, I saw it coming too. It felt like a rehash from the PS1 era, but everyone was too young or too much in denial to admit it. :P
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#32 Timmeus
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I loved the demo and enjoyed watching the marathon so unless it gets really bad reviews from sites I care about I'm getting it day one.
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#33 TheMazaku
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Remember, more often than not some retailers watch reviews and monitor a games reception. Games that receive a bad reception generally drop in price quickly which can benefit those who want to play the game and save a buck. Sadly the price drop only happens after a month or so (if the game is really bad, sometimes if doesn't happen at all though). Let us just see... remember, don't base your purchases on what reviewers say, they are becoming less and less trustworthy IMO.
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#34 jeffbase33
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Well, I have to agree with any bad reviews of Haze, Too Human and Mercs 2. All three came in way over hyped and half-baked. I played the Star Wars demo and was completely bored. But I'm not a big Star Wars fan. So I have the luxury of judging the game on its own merit.

The problem with average games this fall is that they're going against very strong games, including Gears of War 2, LBP, Socom and Resistance. So the great games will make the bad games look worse.

Still, buy the games you want and let the critics do what they do.

PS3videos

Dude ,that's the problem right there. Thanks to the hype, you are assuming that LBP, Socom, Gears of War 2 will all be AAA titles. Yet, no game is safe anymore from this nit picky crap. Everyone is so excited about this games, but they could end up in the trash bin just like Mercs 2. Mercs 2 was a HUGELY hyped game. I am shocked that it is not a great title. The first game was excellent. The only thing the developers had to do was add more options and a new graphics engine. That's all I need!

The point is why bother getting excited about future titles when they will end up getting trashed by reviewers. I'm tired of it.

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#35 Rakuho
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did you play the demo? it really wasn't that good. And it's pretty generic too, beyond some nice visuals and a few cool force techs. I careless about the review, especially from egm, but it doesn't mean they didn't get it right. Just like egm, this is my opinion.
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#36 TheSystemLord1
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u had high hopes for games that anyone could have told you was going to turn out pretty average
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#37 mohmaaytah
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I'm surprised the game isn't so anticipated around here. I guess it may not be everyone's thing but as a Star Wars game it implemented the who thing correctly as far as I'm concerned.

To the people saying games are flawed etc... Well sure this one would have some flaws, but even a 9.5 has flaws that denied it the last 0.5. I have gone through the demo a few times and watched the marathon extensively so surely it deserves a 7 at least. The question of flaws is always relative, I played games rated 9 whose flaws I could not tolerate, and played 4's that I could enjoy without paying much attention to the flaws. Its a personal thing.

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#38 jeffbase33
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u had high hopes for games that anyone could have told you was going to turn out pretty averageTheSystemLord1

Bull corn. These games were highly anticipated as next gen titles. Game Informer started reporting on the SW game like 2 years ago. Haze was also supposed to be one of the big exclusives for PS3. If you ask me, Reistance 2 is just another Gears of War clone, FPS are all alike and average.

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#39 Mujambo
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Ultimately, you need to try it right? I'm getting it but not expecting it to be an amazing game, just something I can button mash and not think too much about. Honestly though, the three games you mentioned in your original post, the first two at least, were complete let downs and were really bad in my opinion. Mercs I would give a little better a review than GS did but it was a big let down after I got hyped over it. Very few games these days it seems are getting good scores. It was not too long ago, or maybe before the current generation of each publisher's consoles, that many games were getting 8's. Maybe the bar was set much higher by the likes of GTA, MGS, etc.
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#40 JohnHatler
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First you must ask yourself, do you generally agree with the reviews given by this particular magazine. Reviewers are people too. You must find the right group of reviewers that mostly relate to your gaming preferences. Everyone has their own "gaming comfort zone" and this decides what games "just feel right" to them. I have not read the review, but have played the demo extensively and thoroughly enjoy it. Though I can see where many of the games short comings may lie. For one, this game was cross- platformed. This is going to affective the development of any game. This is apparent in the good but not amazing graphics seen in the PS3 and 360 versions. Graphics are only a part of the whole, but it is safe to assume that presentation and polish were lowered to compromise a cross-platform release. A control issue that personally stuck out was the inability to move while using the force. Perhaps this changes after a level up, but even Psi Ops allowed movement the entire time while using a similiar technique. The most often mentioned detriment to this game so far has been repetition. Sure you start the demo off with all powers and it is excellent fun to demolish enemies and objects using them, but is the game structured to take advantage of these powers throughout the course of an entire game. Does the gamplay advance and incorporate many uses for these powers? These are the type of questions reviewers ask themselves while playing. An ever increasing level of criticism is being applied to proffessional reviews. The demand for the best is a large part of what drives improvements in these games and is important for advancing the gaming media as a whole
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#41 Elviathan
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Then don't listen to them. Everybody has their own opinions on what a good game is. If a person thinks this game is bad doesn't mean you should. And btw, I thought Star Wars Force Unleased was decent. The game got too repetitive and I got bored too, but that's just me. The physics and everything else was great though! :)
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[QUOTE="pseudocaesar"]I think the thing is, these games are too hyped up. Reviewers are supposed to non objective about what they review, but lets face it. Everyone has been so excited for SW:FU that when the time comes to play it, it just doesnt deliver what you expected even if it may be a great game.jeffbase33

I think that is the element that is pissing me off. For months, these same reviewers will give us previews, tell us that this game will be the next best thing since slice bread, get us all excited. Then the review comes out, oh yea, forget everything we said ,the game sucks. It is deflating.

Thats very true, if the game was so bad when you sat and played multiple levels for hours on end you should have noticed all these faults. Its not live devs make a demo and say well this great everyone loves it, now lets figure out how to make the game worst. Its basically the same game with maybe graphical tweaks and bugs worked out, so yeah that is annoying when they praise it two weeks before the review comes out in a preview of the near final build but then trash the actual final game. Well I remember Heavenly Sword got underwhelming reviews and one of the big complaints was it got boring, but I enjoyed it after eventually getting it.

I for one has never placed my stake on reviews, sometimes I agree with them, sometimes I don't but they dont influence me much because its just someones opinion. I mean what was different above Heavenly Sword vs say God of War which is praised all the time, but you just go through the game doing the same hack and slash stuff with boss battles and QTE's thrown in. Some people would say that it sucks, others that its great, therefore you can only count on you.

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#43 Blur_Fan
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I agree, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. They should spend quality time with the game and then see how they feel. You can't lash out at someone for their opinion. This isn't the Senate.

But I have a few points as a film/music critic:

1.) Saying that a reviewer is biased is a huge mistake. Keep in mind that your view point is also biased. If you absolutely love Star Wars, then you're going to be able to look over any flaws the game might have. I did this for the Getaway back in the PS2 days. Poor reviews, but I love British crime dramas, so I loved it.

2.) A good way to look at reviews for games is to shift you from: not interested to rent/buy, rent to buy, or vice versa. AC got 9 reviews by most critics. I tried it out, and I couldn't play it for more than 2 days, before I grew weary of the combat and shallow story. Went from a buy to a rent.

3.) Hype is not a problem. If it is, it's a self-inflicted wound by the developers or the publisher. But then again, that's marketing 101. You want to get people excited, so that they will run out a purchase the product.

I gave the demo a spin. While I don't like Star Wars, I still wanted to see if the storytelling (and fun with Euphoria) would win me over. I found it to be flat on the gameplay. The powers were kind of cool, I enjoyed controlling tie-fighters to crush tiny little Stormtroopers. But, that wore off before the demo was even done.

So, please don't blame game reviewers. They are (mostly) professional and highly adept at critiquing.

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#44 TheLegendKnight
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and why its surprising ?

i played the demo and thought this game can get around 7.0-8.0 only... its no surprise if its a flop...unless you are a fanboy...

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#45 xxgunslingerxx
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i think anyone who says this game is good hasnt played psi-ops

thats right a ps2 game puts this one to shame

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#46 x_cosmo_x
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Wow, this is off the subject at hand but i gotta say Socom Confrontation Bata is Amazing despite the long loading times between matches this is gonna be the game that defines PS3 online network :P

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[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]u had high hopes for games that anyone could have told you was going to turn out pretty averagejeffbase33

Bull corn. These games were highly anticipated as next gen titles. Game Informer started reporting on the SW game like 2 years ago. Haze was also supposed to be one of the big exclusives for PS3. If you ask me, Reistance 2 is just another Gears of War clone, FPS are all alike and average.

Bioshock spits on this logic.
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#48 jeffbase33
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[QUOTE="jeffbase33"]

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]u had high hopes for games that anyone could have told you was going to turn out pretty averageSymphonycometh

Bull corn. These games were highly anticipated as next gen titles. Game Informer started reporting on the SW game like 2 years ago. Haze was also supposed to be one of the big exclusives for PS3. If you ask me, Reistance 2 is just another Gears of War clone, FPS are all alike and average.

Bioshock spits on this logic.

Bioshock is an industry rarity with an unique art style, environment, and tale of morality. OTOH, how many FPS of marines vs aliens have we had? Quite a few.

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#49 Symphonycometh
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^........ You win in that regard. lol I mean, how can I put up a respectable debate when we're hyping Killzone 2? lol
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#50 TMurphy28
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lol i dont get it either man,
like Assassin's Creed is EXACTLY like Mercs2, but w/ swords.
repetitive, bad story, and buggy.
i like both these games, and i think ones overrated, and ones underrated.
theyre average games, and if you like those games then review it, and prove them wrong man.
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Assassins Creed has FAR better graphics and a FAR better story. It is repetetive but if you're a casual gamer like me it's a great game.