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System wars is that way And you can't create thread until level 10,have funMonsieurX
I don't see why you have to be a d-ck, this is a pretty decent thread, a lot better than many others that get started here on a daily basis. It's a playstation thread, comparing current and next gen playstaion, why would it belong in SW?
Cool little info-graphics OP.Â
thats pretty interesting and makes it easier to compareÂ
im a bit more interested in ps4 than i was before this thread
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]System wars is that way And you can't create thread until level 10,have fun23Jarek23
I don't see why you have to be a d-ck, this is a pretty decent thread, a lot better than many others that get started here on a daily basis. It's a playstation thread, comparing current and next gen playstaion, why would it belong in SW?
Cool little info-graphics OP.Â
They must have misunderstood. Your topic is fine. The PS4 is a lot more impressive than PS3 as was PS3 a lot more impressive than PS2 and was PS2 a lot more impressive than PS1. I like your comparison chart. I look forward to more info on PS4 between now and launch. E3 should be very good. Thank you!:D
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]System wars is that way And you can't create thread until level 10,have funclr84651
I don't see why you have to be a d-ck, this is a pretty decent thread, a lot better than many others that get started here on a daily basis. It's a playstation thread, comparing current and next gen playstaion, why would it belong in SW?
Cool little info-graphics OP.Â
They must have misunderstood. Your topic is fine. The PS4 is a lot more impressive than PS3 as was PS3 a lot more impressive than PS2 and was PS2 a lot more impressive than PS1. I like your comparison chart. I look forward to more info on PS4 between now and launch. E3 should be very good. Thank you!:D
The ps3 was a lot more impressive for it's time though, 8 cores , and the latest gpu. Not the case with the ps4 though, bad idea.Why get a PS4 over a PC? PlayStation exclusives are pretty much the only reason I'm still playing games these days. I'm not even talking about stuff like God Of War, Gran Turismo, Little Big Planet, Infamous, etc.
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]System wars is that way And you can't create thread until level 10,have fun23Jarek23
I don't see why you have to be a d-ck, this is a pretty decent thread, a lot better than many others that get started here on a daily basis. It's a playstation thread, comparing current and next gen playstaion, why would it belong in SW?
Cool little info-graphics OP.Â
Agreed,I don't what the issue is.....
I hope they still have an ethernet port on the console, video game consoles normally cannot connect to my University Wi-Fi.
System wars is that way And you can't create thread until level 10,have funMonsieurX
bad attitude, no need to be a jerk.
also, this thread isn't sw material, its' about ps3 to ps4, not 360 to ps4 or 720 to ps4 or wii u to ps4.
u mad.
tc : nice thread and pics. thank you for posting. informative.
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]System wars is that way And you can't create thread until level 10,have funAmazonTreeBoaThis isn't system wars material and belongs were it is. Also, he doesn't have to be level ten to create a thread unless you mean in SW.
exactly, thanks.
dualshock is for girly hands, xbox for manhands.evildead6789
no, i'm 6foot five inches, no way is that accurate.Â
xbox is for alien, awkward thumb placement hands, dualshock is for human symmetrical hands. easy to counter, thanks.
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]System wars is that way And you can't create thread until level 10,have fun23Jarek23
I don't see why you have to be a d-ck, this is a pretty decent thread, a lot better than many others that get started here on a daily basis. It's a playstation thread, comparing current and next gen playstaion, why would it belong in SW?
Cool little info-graphics OP.Â
\agreed. I like the info graphics too.Â
monsier guy is a sw xbox troll, if memory serves. he mad ps comparison isn't negative.
The more I think about it, the more this system is a step backwards in hardware. The only thing that can save it is some really solid exclusive titles, otherwise it has such a limited collection of games that I'm interested in I will probably not even buy one. I just bought an Intel i7-980X with a GTX 680 and a Solid State Drive with 555 Mb/s Read/Write. From a hardware standpoint, this PS4 is just ugly. AMD and ATI graphics? Major fail there. And the system will be chugging behind even last year's computers. It's too bad that game developers weren't ready for the super-advanced cell-processing architecture of the PS3, now we are going to have to settle with just another cheap PC with a logo on it...SKaREO
Moron
The more I think about it, the more this system is a step backwards in hardware. The only thing that can save it is some really solid exclusive titles, otherwise it has such a limited collection of games that I'm interested in I will probably not even buy one. I just bought an Intel i7-980X with a GTX 680 and a Solid State Drive with 555 Mb/s Read/Write. From a hardware standpoint, this PS4 is just ugly. AMD and ATI graphics? Major fail there. And the system will be chugging behind even last year's computers. It's too bad that game developers weren't ready for the super-advanced cell-processing architecture of the PS3, now we are going to have to settle with just another cheap PC with a logo on it...SKaREOSad pathetic troll attempt is sad pathetic troll attempt.
The more I think about it, the more this system is a step backwards in hardware. The only thing that can save it is some really solid exclusive titles, otherwise it has such a limited collection of games that I'm interested in I will probably not even buy one. I just bought an Intel i7-980X with a GTX 680 and a Solid State Drive with 555 Mb/s Read/Write. From a hardware standpoint, this PS4 is just ugly. AMD and ATI graphics? Major fail there. And the system will be chugging behind even last year's computers. It's too bad that game developers weren't ready for the super-advanced cell-processing architecture of the PS3, now we are going to have to settle with just another cheap PC with a logo on it...SKaREO
I'm not seeing how it's a step backwards, it seems like a major leap forwards to me. It may be a step backwards from the $1000+ gaming computer you have, but for a console it's packing some serious power.Â
has anyone else put there ps3 on after hearing about the ps4 and just thought i just can't be bothered truly playing on this anymore and i want the ps4 NOW hahahahaha i'm like a big kid, i put fifa in and just thought, truly how much better are the graphics going to be than this. i always do this when i know the new system is around the corner i get bored of the current system and my mind is set on the new system.
has anyone else put there ps3 on after hearing about the ps4 and just thought i just can't be bothered truly playing on this anymore and i want the ps4 NOW hahahahaha i'm like a big kid, i put fifa in and just thought, truly how much better are the graphics going to be than this. i always do this when i know the new system is around the corner i get bored of the current system and my mind is set on the new system.
bezza2011
No I have a backlog to clear out before the PS4 is released. aa
[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"][QUOTE="SKaREO"]The more I think about it, the more this system is a step backwards in hardware. The only thing that can save it is some really solid exclusive titles, otherwise it has such a limited collection of games that I'm interested in I will probably not even buy one. I just bought an Intel i7-980X with a GTX 680 and a Solid State Drive with 555 Mb/s Read/Write. From a hardware standpoint, this PS4 is just ugly. AMD and ATI graphics? Major fail there. And the system will be chugging behind even last year's computers. It's too bad that game developers weren't ready for the super-advanced cell-processing architecture of the PS3, now we are going to have to settle with just another cheap PC with a logo on it...SKaREO
Moron
Stop acting like a baby. Your PS4 is just a meager PC. My PC has a blue ray burner and solid state drives, and I can upgrade it anytime. Have fun with your new budget PC build I guess.Have fun being modded...
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has anyone else put there ps3 on after hearing about the ps4 and just thought i just can't be bothered truly playing on this anymore and i want the ps4 NOW hahahahaha i'm like a big kid, i put fifa in and just thought, truly how much better are the graphics going to be than this. i always do this when i know the new system is around the corner i get bored of the current system and my mind is set on the new system.
StrongBlackVine
No I have a backlog to clear out before the PS4 is released. aa
Same here, and I only play FPS, so my library is limited. I still haven't played any God of War, Uncharted, or LIttle Big PlanetÂWhy do you only play fps?angryassdrummerI grew up playing Counter-Strike, Unreal, and Quake. I tend not to like to problem solve/explore when playing games. I just like to shoot stuff. My friends bought me LA Noire for my birthday a couple years ago and I didn't even finish it. I had Zelda Twilight Princess for Wii and didn't finish it. So I guess this year I'm going to get some used PS3 games and pick up some titles I missed on before getting the PS4.
The more I think about it, the more this system is a step backwards in hardware. The only thing that can save it is some really solid exclusive titles, otherwise it has such a limited collection of games that I'm interested in I will probably not even buy one. I just bought an Intel i7-980X with a GTX 680 and a Solid State Drive with 555 Mb/s Read/Write. From a hardware standpoint, this PS4 is just ugly. AMD and ATI graphics? Major fail there. And the system will be chugging behind even last year's computers. It's too bad that game developers weren't ready for the super-advanced cell-processing architecture of the PS3, now we are going to have to settle with just another cheap PC with a logo on it...SKaREO
Major fail is you. The chip size for Intel i7-980X is quite large i.e. 239 mm^ while Radeon HD 7870's chip size is 212 mm^2.
AMD Jaguar core size is 3.1 mm^2 + 2.1 mm^2 for L2 cache i.e. total size of ~41.6 mm^2.
The reason why Intel i7-980X's large chip size is due to slower DDR3 memory i.e. larger on-board cache. Fast GDDR5 memory reduces the need for large chip size.
On Geforce GTX 680 issue...
The breakdown on GPU strengths
Non-Microsoft Direct3D GPGPU face-off: K20 vs 7970 vs GTX680 vs M2050 vs GTX580 from http://wili.cc/blog/gpgpu-faceoff.html
K20 = GK110
There's very difference between NVIDIA's OpenCL and CUDA.
PS, Sony PS4 would not be using Microsoft's Direct3D stack.
App 1. Digital Hydraulics code is all about basic floating point arithmetics, both algebraic and transcendental. No dynamic branching, very little memory traffic.
App 2. Ambient Occlusion code is a very mixed load of floating point and integer arithmetics, dynamic branching, texture sampling and memory access. Despite the memory traffic, this is a very compute intensive kernel.
App 3. Running Sum code, in contrast to the above, is memory intensive. It shuffles data through at a high rate, not doing much calculations on it. It relies heavily on the on-chip L1 cache, though, so it's not a raw memory bandwidth test.
App 4. Geometry Sampling code is texture sampling intensive. It sweeps through geometry data in "waves", and stresses samplers, texture caches, and memory equally. It also has a high register usage and thus low occupancy.
Dirt Showdown's results mirrors "App 2" results.
[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"][QUOTE="SKaREO"]The more I think about it, the more this system is a step backwards in hardware. The only thing that can save it is some really solid exclusive titles, otherwise it has such a limited collection of games that I'm interested in I will probably not even buy one. I just bought an Intel i7-980X with a GTX 680 and a Solid State Drive with 555 Mb/s Read/Write. From a hardware standpoint, this PS4 is just ugly. AMD and ATI graphics? Major fail there. And the system will be chugging behind even last year's computers. It's too bad that game developers weren't ready for the super-advanced cell-processing architecture of the PS3, now we are going to have to settle with just another cheap PC with a logo on it...SKaREO
Moron
Stop acting like a baby. Your PS4 is just a meager PC. My PC has a blue ray burner and solid state drives, and I can upgrade it anytime. Have fun with your new budget PC build I guess.Control your hard on over your damn PC, PS4 is a leap forward in gaming, and you're just blinded by your narrow-mindedness
i like the controller, hopefully someone will get it to work on the pc which would be a great added benefit. Sucks that the ps3 can not play games above 1080p, for most people that will not matter, currently. However in about 2-3 years 4k tvs will probably be affordable and it would be nice to play games at that resolution. (yes resolutions above 1080p do actually look noticeably better believe it or not)merigoldsassI imagine that would be a huge amount of data to have to render. Even if the tvs are affordable, the real bottleneck is keeping the fps high and stable. Personally, I think I'd prefer 1080p at a stable 60fps before 4k at an unstable 30ish fps for gaming.
There's not much to complain about, just... why did they put a speaker on the controller? Â The Wii did that and the speaker just sucked. Â Really tinny and wasn't used to much good.
One of the things I am scared of with the PS4 is really expensive controllers. Â I think no more than $60 for a controller, please.
Nice post, loved the specs comparison. I think gamers play on consoles because they think that PC gaming is hard to set up and tend to shy away from it.
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