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#1 horgen  Moderator
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I'm just curious. Who here has Ryzen processors from AMD?

I just went from Intel 6600K at 4.7 to AMD 3900X. I haven't fiddled with any CPU overclocking yet, I got my memory to 3600MHz with a slightly better timings than XMP gave. Anyone tried OC the CPU?

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Just saw that you just get setup on the other thread. Congrats. I can't help you with the 3k/x570 setup specifically, but I do have 2600/x470 setup, and did read up on the new zen 2.

Checkout the dram calculator and videos on how to tighten the timings. I think you got 90% of the performance in the ram front with that speed. The ryzen 2k and 3k doesn't have much more oc headroom beyond boost, boost actually is likely better than traditional oc especially if you keep the cpu and vrm (good motherboard) plus it boosts all the cores. Though as of right now I keep hearing issues of it not boosting to its rated limit but rather 100mhz or so shy of it. So watch out for a bios update, in the past like zen 1 had a lot of their issues fixed through that.

Also I think there should be one more iteration of ryzen for the am4 socket. Zen 3, I have a feeling it won't be a dramatic jump from zen+ to zen2 like yours though.

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@Bikouchu35: I've seen boosts to 4575MHz on a few cores on mine. Judging by MSI Afterburner, thread 1-4 + 24 has reached a max boost of 4.575GHz.

While CPU-Z lists CPU voltage, I don't have any way to check temperature atm. I mainly use open hardware monitor (together with Aquasuite) and MSI Afterburner, none of them display temperature for this CPU.

I use the DRAM calculator. I've tried 3600MHz fast option and that works. 3800 Safe didn't work, although that might be just the lack of voltage. I really don't want my ram at 1.5V. Atm it is 1.45.

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All the bread. Except flat bread, but that went without saying.

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I'm still running my Ryzen 2700X for the time being but I wanted to get the 3900X but those things are still sold out everywhere. Next week, I come to a conclusion I'll go ahead and get the 3800X instead and for those who are gonna tell to buy 3700X, that too is out of stock, so the 3800X it is. Also got myself a new Motherboard ASUS Prime X570 for that as well. Afterwards, I am done upgrading my PC for the next 4/5 years.

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@davillain- said:

Afterwards, I am done upgrading my PC for the next 4/5 years.

Yeah, that's what I keep saying, too. XD

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@davillain- said:

I'm still running my Ryzen 2700X for the time being but I wanted to get the 3900X but those things are still sold out everywhere. Next week, I come to a conclusion I'll go ahead and get the 3800X instead and for those who are gonna tell to buy 3700X, that too is out of stock, so the 3800X it is. Also got myself a new Motherboard ASUS Prime X570 for that as well. Afterwards, I am done upgrading my PC for the next 4/5 years.

Mind as well aim for the 3950x.

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@Bikouchu35: Ryzen 3950X cost is $750! I have never pay over $500 for a CPU and that tends to be my budget limit, so 3950X is out of the question. I'll be okay with 3800X and wait whenever AMD announces Ryzen 4000 series. (Should I decide to upgrade)

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@horgen: welcome to the amd cpu family, i dont have the lastest ryzen, but typically they dont oc very well usually 100 to 200mhz gain in oc, since the chips are already operating at close to max out the box

also the new ryzens tend to behave like modern nvidia gpus', the lower the op temp the better and more consistent the frequency boost.

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I run 3900X on 4GHz liquid cooled and all is fine, I have no complaints. ELC-LF240 does it's job.

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@urbangamez said:

@horgen: welcome to the amd cpu family, i dont have the lastest ryzen, but typically they dont oc very well usually 100 to 200mhz gain in oc, since the chips are already operating at close to max out the box

also the new ryzens tend to behave like modern nvidia gpus', the lower the op temp the better and more consistent the frequency boost.

I know they don't OC well. I was hoping to test the limits though. See if I can get 4.4GHz all core. I see some cores boost to almost 4.6, however with load on all cores, I think they end up around 4.0 GHz.

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@davillain- said:

I'm still running my Ryzen 2700X for the time being but I wanted to get the 3900X but those things are still sold out everywhere. Next week, I come to a conclusion I'll go ahead and get the 3800X instead and for those who are gonna tell to buy 3700X, that too is out of stock, so the 3800X it is. Also got myself a new Motherboard ASUS Prime X570 for that as well. Afterwards, I am done upgrading my PC for the next 4/5 years.

Sucks to be in the US then, can be had in the UK still.

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@horgen said:
@urbangamez said:

@horgen: welcome to the amd cpu family, i dont have the lastest ryzen, but typically they dont oc very well usually 100 to 200mhz gain in oc, since the chips are already operating at close to max out the box

also the new ryzens tend to behave like modern nvidia gpus', the lower the op temp the better and more consistent the frequency boost.

I know they don't OC well. I was hoping to test the limits though. See if I can get 4.4GHz all core. I see some cores boost to almost 4.6, however with load on all cores, I think they end up around 4.0 GHz.

Manual OC performance is worse than PB and XFR. Although someone told me the voltages go way too high and so just OC'd himself.

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@Random_Matt: When using CPU-Z the voltage reach 1.47-1.49V during my normal use. It works so differently than Intel that I am used to. The voltage jumps up and down like crazy according to Ryzen Master. The CPU speed likewise.

I use this computer for folding too. Without folding(on the gpu), the voltage is a little lower, 1.28-1.35 or so, CPU speed up to 700MHz maybe.

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@horgen: i have no experience with the new ryzen, so you prolly have done this already, but disable pbo, and use precision boost 2, as precision boost 2 is considered stock. also get the latest chipset drivers from amd and the new agesa 1.0.0.3 ABB bios update it should be safe to install now.

if u can get an ambient room temp of 22 C, and a ambient case temp of 31 C with your cooling solution and depending on your silicon you might be able to get 4.2 all cores under load.

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@urbangamez said:

@horgen: i have no experience with the new ryzen, so you prolly have done this already, but disable pbo, and use precision boost 2, as precision boost 2 is considered stock. also get the latest chipset drivers from amd and the new agesa 1.0.0.3 ABB bios update it should be safe to install now.

if u can get an ambient room temp of 22 C, and a ambient case temp of 31 C with your cooling solution and depending on your silicon you might be able to get 4.2 all cores under load.

Ambient room temp is about 25C during summer. Case temperature doesn't matter much since the radiator is outside the case.

I was hoping I could push it to 4.4 or so on all cores under load. Atm I still haven't tested anything.

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I have two. Ryzen 5 2600X for my bedroom PC and Ryzen 3 1200 for my HTPC. I built the HTPC because I spend way more time watching movies and TV shows in the living room than playing games now and it's more convenient to have a dedicated system for my rips.

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Per the benchmarks thread, I've been running Ryzen for my last two CPUs (same motherboard). First a 1920X followed by currently a 2950X. I haven't rocked an AMD chip since around the 486 and Pentium days. These news ones are interesting. They are not billed as gaming chips necessarily but they do a decent job for the price, plus all the cores are handy for the video processing stuff I like to do. Running all 16 physical cores when I'm using Premiere is great, and flipping it down to 8 and overclocking for gaming and VR is pretty easy. Overall I'm generally pretty pleased with my AMD experiment, although Thunderbolt and native H265 encoding that you get on Intel board/chips would have been nice.

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No, last AMD chip I had was a Phenom II... That said the way things are going with Intel and its 10nm troubles my next chip will more than likely be a AMD one.

Also l watched and read up a bunch of reviews and it seems like overclocking on Zen 2 seems like a waste of time, its almost as good as it can get straight out of the box which is great since it performs superbly but as some who loves to fiddle around with things its a little sad.

Also congrats on the new build I know my i5 was getting long in the tooth also.

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I guess I am running a form of Ryzen...Threadripper.

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#22  Edited By horgen  Moderator
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@Diddies said:

I guess I am running a form of Ryzen...Threadripper.

Threadripper is acceptable of course. Which one?

@Byshop said:

Per the benchmarks thread, I've been running Ryzen for my last two CPUs (same motherboard). First a 1920X followed by currently a 2950X. I haven't rocked an AMD chip since around the 486 and Pentium days. These news ones are interesting. They are not billed as gaming chips necessarily but they do a decent job for the price, plus all the cores are handy for the video processing stuff I like to do. Running all 16 physical cores when I'm using Premiere is great, and flipping it down to 8 and overclocking for gaming and VR is pretty easy. Overall I'm generally pretty pleased with my AMD experiment, although Thunderbolt and native H265 encoding that you get on Intel board/chips would have been nice.

I was thinking about 2920X last gen. As in upgrading. Kinda glad I waited actually.

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Always been an amd fan since the 486 era!!!

My last build is a Ryzen 3600. Did not overclock or anything yet.

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@sovkhan said:

Always been an amd fan since the 486 era!!!

My last build is a Ryzen 3600. Did not overclock or anything yet.

Next to no point in OCing it either.

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Intel user here. I currently have a I7 4790k and I got a good deal on a I7 9700K so I went with Intel again :)

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Haven't touched AMD since K6-III days and prolly staying that way.

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@horgen: Ryzen 5 2500U on 2-in-1 tablet/laptop with HP Envy x360 15z.

AMD's offical 19.x drivers was a welcome change from HP OEM 17.x and hacked/forced WIndows update 18.x drivers.

My last AMD CPU before Ryzen was Bobcat based Acer W500 tablet.

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@horgen:

Game wise, for sure as i'm not interested in the 5/6 fps i may gain.

But testing is also part of the pc fun, just to see how far i can push it!!!

That's said, i'm quite busy right now...So may try it later on.

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I’ve got the 3900X up and running. No complaints do far. I’m eagerly awaiting 3950X benchmarks. I want all them cores

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@goldenelementxl said:

I’ve got the 3900X up and running. No complaints do far. I’m eagerly awaiting 3950X benchmarks. I want all them cores

Highest boost you have had on it? I've yet to pass 4.575GHz

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@horgen said:
@goldenelementxl said:

I’ve got the 3900X up and running. No complaints do far. I’m eagerly awaiting 3950X benchmarks. I want all them cores

Highest boost you have had on it? I've yet to pass 4.575GHz

I'm looking at 4.6 right now. And I guess we are getting bios updates pretty soon, too?

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der8auer did a recent boost clock check recently, it is rather shocking. AMD told a bunch of lies, but we already knew this when they constantly cherry pick game benchmarks which turn out to be false upon reviews.

Anyway, the chipset fan completely turned me off X570, but glad some people enjoy them.

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@Random_Matt said:

der8auer did a recent boost clock check recently, it is rather shocking. AMD told a bunch of lies, but we already knew this when they constantly cherry pick game benchmarks which turn out to be false upon reviews.

Anyway, the chipset fan completely turned me off X570, but glad some people enjoy them.

The only time my chipset fan spin is during start up. I've never heard it after Win10 begins loading.

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@goldenelementxl said:
@horgen said:
@goldenelementxl said:

I’ve got the 3900X up and running. No complaints do far. I’m eagerly awaiting 3950X benchmarks. I want all them cores

Highest boost you have had on it? I've yet to pass 4.575GHz

I'm looking at 4.6 right now. And I guess we are getting bios updates pretty soon, too?

I missed this one.

i hope we will get some at least. What did you start to boost it too 4.6? I want to see if I can do it with one single thread application.

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@Random_Matt said:

der8auer did a recent boost clock check recently, it is rather shocking. AMD told a bunch of lies, but we already knew this when they constantly cherry pick game benchmarks which turn out to be false upon reviews.

Anyway, the chipset fan completely turned me off X570, but glad some people enjoy them.

Zen 2's direction is good, but Zen 3 with 7nm+ UV process is released next year.

Intel Icelake's 10 nm has UV process.

Intel's 10 nm and TSMC's 7nm+ has similar density.

Any upgrades from my Intel desktop PC systems would be 16 cores minimum.

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@ronvalencia said:
@Random_Matt said:

der8auer did a recent boost clock check recently, it is rather shocking. AMD told a bunch of lies, but we already knew this when they constantly cherry pick game benchmarks which turn out to be false upon reviews.

Anyway, the chipset fan completely turned me off X570, but glad some people enjoy them.

Zen 2's direction is good, but Zen 3 with 7nm+ UV process is released next year.

Intel Icelake's 10 nm has UV process.

Intel's 10 nm and TSMC's 7nm+ has similar density.

Any upgrades from my Intel desktop PC systems would be 16 cores minimum.

You need more than the 7820X? Cascade lakes (Or whatever the X299 refresh is called)

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Time to put my old Phenom II X4 B.E. to sleep, he was a brave CPU but the computer is at the point where nothing works anymore. I'll be getting a 3700x, expect it to last me as much time as my Phenom. Should have it by next week.

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@phbz: lol, you're a trooper! I ran my Phenom II for a long time too - but not THAT long. My i5 6500 is still doing the job, but I'll likely move to Ryzen next iteration or so

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@xantufrog: I mostly use my PC for non gaming stuff, particularly music so my PCs tend to last long. Basically until they start to malfunction. But I even played the Witcher 3 on it and it managed to keep up with the base consoles, so I felt no need for the upgrade since I primarily play on console nowadays.

Anyway, placed my order. Went for a 3700x, with 16Gb of RAM (3600). The GPU, I went cheap, a 1660ti, I'll buy a proper one next year once ray tracing is more solidified. As I don't want to do much gaming it will do for now.

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got a Ryzen 7, but I dont overclock didn't even buy the X version of the CPU.

CPU is great though and noticeably faster than my old i7 4790.

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@xantufrog said:

@phbz: lol, you're a trooper! I ran my Phenom II for a long time too - but not THAT long. My i5 6500 is still doing the job, but I'll likely move to Ryzen next iteration or so

If it wasn't for my order not getting canceled, I would have rocked my 6600K for another year/ generation of CPUs.

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@Random_Matt said:
@ronvalencia said:
@Random_Matt said:

der8auer did a recent boost clock check recently, it is rather shocking. AMD told a bunch of lies, but we already knew this when they constantly cherry pick game benchmarks which turn out to be false upon reviews.

Anyway, the chipset fan completely turned me off X570, but glad some people enjoy them.

Zen 2's direction is good, but Zen 3 with 7nm+ UV process is released next year.

Intel Icelake's 10 nm has UV process.

Intel's 10 nm and TSMC's 7nm+ has similar density.

Any upgrades from my Intel desktop PC systems would be 16 cores minimum.

You need more than the 7820X? Cascade lakes (Or whatever the X299 refresh is called)

Next gen game consoles has 8 cores Zen 2 as it's refined minimums and my PC's multitasking workloads are wider than game consoles.

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r5 3600 with rtx 2080 , extremely happy

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@ronvalencia said:

Next gen game consoles has 8 cores Zen 2 as it's refined minimums and my PC's multitasking workloads are wider than game consoles.

I don't think current Zen 2 owners need to worry. At least not if you got 3700 or above as you probably have higher clockspeed than next gen.

As for those with 6(intel/amd) cores. Most likely do well enough for another 2-3 years. a

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@horgen said:
@ronvalencia said:

Next gen game consoles has 8 cores Zen 2 as it's refined minimums and my PC's multitasking workloads are wider than game consoles.

I don't think current Zen 2 owners need to worry. At least not if you got 3700 or above as you probably have higher clockspeed than next gen.

As for those with 6(intel/amd) cores. Most likely do well enough for another 2-3 years. a

The trouble with consoles is that they almost never have access to all the core a console has, chances are 2 cores will be for the OS and only 6 cores will be available for game development.

Since X86 was adopted and REAL custom hardware was thrown away its almost a 1:1 parody of PC hardware... Since next generation is X86 with no custom hardware and using CPU/GPU architecture already out and will be running at lower frequencies and be less powerful no one with a 6 core Zen or Intel chip at 4+ Ghz should worry about a thing.

The only people that need to worry are console gamer's... 200w is not enough power for Zen 2 / RDNA at PC levels, The coming generation will be a repeat of X1 and PS4 when they launched with 7790/7850 level hardware.

60 CU at 1700?... That's aparantly on the PS5 pro, unless that thing comes with two 200w power bricks, its not happening.

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@horgen said:
@ronvalencia said:

Next gen game consoles has 8 cores Zen 2 as it's refined minimums and my PC's multitasking workloads are wider than game consoles.

I don't think current Zen 2 owners need to worry. At least not if you got 3700 or above as you probably have higher clockspeed than next gen.

As for those with 6(intel/amd) cores. Most likely do well enough for another 2-3 years. a

The trouble with consoles is that they almost never have access to all the core a console has, chances are 2 cores will be for the OS and only 6 cores will be available for game development.

Since X86 was adopted and REAL custom hardware was thrown away its almost a 1:1 parody of PC hardware... Since next generation is X86 with no custom hardware and using CPU/GPU architecture already out and will be running at lower frequencies and be less powerful no one with a 6 core Zen or Intel chip at 4+ Ghz should worry about a thing.

The only people that need to worry are console gamer's... 200w is not enough power for Zen 2 / RDNA at PC levels, The coming generation will be a repeat of X1 and PS4 when they launched with 7790/7850 level hardware.

60 CU at 1700?... That's aparantly on the PS5 pro, unless that thing comes with two 200w power bricks, its not happening.

Wait, there are rumours about PS5 pro already? Can't they release the damn console first, then start working on a pro version?

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#48  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf:

Current consoles has allocated 7.5 CPU cores for games.

Next gen console CPU may have hyperthreading, hence a single CPU core with SMT for the OS.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf:

The coming generation will be a repeat of X1 and PS4 when they launched with 7790/7850 level hardware.

I disagree with the above statement due to Xbox Scarlett's APU size and higher than 256 bit bus GDDR6 configuration.

Xbox One's 7790 GPU size was gimped by Kinect's cost allocation.

Without Kinect's interference, Xbox One X has the largest games console GPU in history which pushed towards 285 mm2 area size which is slightly less than NVIDIA GP104 class's 314 mm2.

Xbox One X has 44 CU GCN which is second tier GPU below 1st tier Vega 56/64 CU GCN.

36 CU GCN is 3rd tier CU GCN.

Xbox Scarlet's large APU and GPU bias large size continues from XBox One X NOT Xbox One.

My speculation for Xbox Scarlett is another NAVI between RX 5700 XT 40 CU and NAVI's Vega II 64 CU replacement.

Xbox One X's updated GCN 44 CU doesn't exist as a PC SKU i.e. there's no Polaris/Vega 44 CU that replaced R9-390X.