This is why S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is one of the greatest games ever made.

This settles it. I have never felt as immersed in any game before as S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has now managed to make me feel. Honestly, how could any game ever out do this? The following is rather long, but it is an experience I just had in Shadow of Chernobyl, and perfectly explains why it is such an immersive game.

(Also, I had the Complete 2009 mod with the realistic weapon extension.)

I am walking down a path, hills and abandoned trailers on each side of me. All is quiet, and I hear those tiny little beeps that let me know other S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'s are near by. Instinctively, I run up the hill to my left and take partial cover behind a nearby bolder. Ahead of me, down on the path, I see a group of opposing S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'s posted up. They're in my way. This is the only way to reach my destination. I know I have to kill them.

I scope in on the enemy in the middle. Immediately, my three options rush through my mind:

A. I can put my scope on single shot, and aim for a head shot. But, what if my bullet goes off course and misses? I'll have missed my chance to take one of them out without alerting the others.

B. I can aim at his upper body and release a few small bursts, almost insuring his death. But he has armor on. What if only a bullet or two hits and my gun jams? I'll have wasted ammo and again, given away my position.

C. I can switch to my grenade launcher and take them all out. This is surely the most effective way to take care of them, and will get me out of this unharmed, right? But. . .I only have three grenades. What if I get into a tight situation later and need that final wasted shot?

In the end, I decide to take what I believe to be the best option with the least cons. Option B. I scope in on his stomach, and time slows down as I release two small burts. One bullet hits his stomach, one hits his shoulder, and another hits his head. The time flow returns to normal as his allies scatter to either side of him, and bullets begin to fly. I scope in again, and do the same to another enemy on his right. He drops.

Sounds become distant. My vision becomes blurry. I realise I have been hit by a sniper, and am quickly bleeding out. I'm almost dead. "I'm going to die." I think. I turn around and run for better cover as bullets fly by and hit the ground around me. My screen is wobbly and my health is nearly gone. I get behind cover, and as quickly as I can, I stop the bleeding.

I run down the hill and cross the path to the other side. I quickly make my way around to flank their sniper. I see him. I scope in, and quickly take him out from cover, from an unknown position. The others didn't see me cross. My gun is silenced, so they're still looking to where I was last.

I run around behind them. Behind a trailer for cover. I lean out, directly behind them. I've done it. I have the perfect flank. I squeeze my trigger, but, only two bullets release before my gun jams. In this split second after those shots release, and they realized I was behind them, I knew I had to make a choice.

Pray that my reload speed is faster than they are, switch to my pistol, run, or die.

I switch to my .45, and pop a bullet into the closest ones head before he can turn around. I go back behind cover and reload my assault rifle before running out. After reloading, I run out, strafing to the other side of the road while firing. They all drop.

GET OUT OF HERE STALKER!

GET OUT OF HERE STALKER!

XaosII

You sir get kudos from me...:)

Tomorrow morning when i come from work...STALKER is the game i will play...I would play now but iam too tired and my eyes are in my mouth :D

I'm glad to hear some people enjoyed that. :P

Does the Complete Mod make Clear Sky better or something? Does it add performance ? GeneralShowzer

Thank you for the great story.

This is why STALKER is on my top-PC-games-ever list. There's nothing like it, and you can only understand how immersive it is if you play it alone without disturbance and with full volume. This isn't Metro33, this isn't COD or HL, this game is unique, and I can't wait for the sequel.

i really have to obligate myself to play stalker, it's sometimes cool but it can't touch games like mass effect, oblivion, dead space, bioshock & crysis.evildead6789

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]i really have to obligate myself to play stalker, it's sometimes cool but it can't touch games like mass effect, oblivion, dead space, bioshock & crysis.SF_KiLLaMaN

I have played a few hours of SoC and I just cannot really get into the game. I imagine it gets much better, but its really hard to want to play to get to that part lol.

I have played a few hours of SoC and I just cannot really get into the game. I imagine it gets much better, but its really hard to want to play to get to that part lol.

NaveedLife

Thank you for the great story.

This is why STALKER is on my top-PC-games-ever list. There's nothing like it, and you can only understand how immersive it is if you play it alone without disturbance and with full volume. This isn't Metro33, this isn't COD or HL, this game is unique, and I can't wait for the sequel.

Majd_Abdulqadir

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

I have played a few hours of SoC and I just cannot really get into the game. I imagine it gets much better, but its really hard to want to play to get to that part lol.

SF_KiLLaMaN

Stalker SoC is easily in my top 10 games of all time. I think i've played through it three times.

Which S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game were you playing TC?

Adding IMO at the end of sentences like these are always safe!!! :P

Does the Complete Mod make Clear Sky better or something? Does it add performance ? GeneralShowzer

Which S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game were you playing TC?

Lox_Cropek

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Does the Complete Mod make Clear Sky better or something? Does it add performance ? bonafidetk

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]i really have to obligate myself to play stalker, it's sometimes cool but it can't touch games like mass effect, oblivion, dead space, bioshock & crysis.SF_KiLLaMaN

Too bad Call of Pripyat is broken. The loading times are insane and the game crashes/hangs way too much. I'm using it with the latest patch and the complete mod. But yeah, STALKER is amazing.

Too bad Call of Pripyat is broken. The loading times are insane and the game crashes/hangs way too much. I'm using it with the latest patch and the complete mod. But yeah, STALKER is amazing.

coolmonkeykid

i can't understand the stalker hype, i mean some things are cool but i mean, enemies spawn sometimes back on the same place. There is no real interaction with the environment, you have your suit and some guns yes but there's nothing really that compells with stalker. The game doesn't suck me in like mass effect does. The story isn't really interesting and the characters neither. Gunbattles aren't spectacular I must say , i really , really can't understand why you would prefer stalker above crysis or mass effect. I know it's not your typical fps, you could compare it a little with borderlands only borderlands is ten times better. Even with the complete mod the graphics don't look really artistic and from a technical point it's almost previous gen. I'm stalker number one now and i just finished that laboratary part with all those zombified stalkers. Well maybe i will continue to play because i hate it to leave a game unfinished but it's kinda like the same deal with singularity, i just gave up suddenly because it get's boring. The difference is with singularity that singularity wasn't really boring in the beginning and stalker was in a lot of moments boring, some moments not but still... pretty boring game stalkerevildead6789

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]i can't understand the stalker hype, i mean some things are cool but i mean, enemies spawn sometimes back on the same place. There is no real interaction with the environment, you have your suit and some guns yes but there's nothing really that compells with stalker. The game doesn't suck me in like mass effect does. The story isn't really interesting and the characters neither. Gunbattles aren't spectacular I must say , i really , really can't understand why you would prefer stalker above crysis or mass effect. I know it's not your typical fps, you could compare it a little with borderlands only borderlands is ten times better. Even with the complete mod the graphics don't look really artistic and from a technical point it's almost previous gen. I'm stalker number one now and i just finished that laboratary part with all those zombified stalkers. Well maybe i will continue to play because i hate it to leave a game unfinished but it's kinda like the same deal with singularity, i just gave up suddenly because it get's boring. The difference is with singularity that singularity wasn't really boring in the beginning and stalker was in a lot of moments boring, some moments not but still... pretty boring game stalkerNick3306

I wouldn't call borderlands or crysis or oblivion scripted, these are open world games too

Even fallout could join this battle allthough the vat system makes it a little more rpg than fps

Mass effect is less open world , allthough the planets are somewhat open world.

bioshock is more of a corridor shooter so it's hard to compare that

But as far as open world goes, i prefer crysis, borderlands and oblivion a lot more than stalker

I can see your point though , there aren't many openworld games and if you really like that like i do , then stalker can be very welcome but still open world or not i can't help to find this game kinda boring.

[QUOTE="Nick3306"][QUOTE="evildead6789"]i can't understand the stalker hype, i mean some things are cool but i mean, enemies spawn sometimes back on the same place. There is no real interaction with the environment, you have your suit and some guns yes but there's nothing really that compells with stalker. The game doesn't suck me in like mass effect does. The story isn't really interesting and the characters neither. Gunbattles aren't spectacular I must say , i really , really can't understand why you would prefer stalker above crysis or mass effect. I know it's not your typical fps, you could compare it a little with borderlands only borderlands is ten times better. Even with the complete mod the graphics don't look really artistic and from a technical point it's almost previous gen. I'm stalker number one now and i just finished that laboratary part with all those zombified stalkers. Well maybe i will continue to play because i hate it to leave a game unfinished but it's kinda like the same deal with singularity, i just gave up suddenly because it get's boring. The difference is with singularity that singularity wasn't really boring in the beginning and stalker was in a lot of moments boring, some moments not but still... pretty boring game stalkerevildead6789

I wouldn't call borderlands or crysis or oblivion scripted, these are open world games too

Even fallout could join this battle allthough the vat system makes it a little more rpg than fps

Mass effect is less open world , allthough the planets are somewhat open world.

bioshock is more of a corridor shooter so it's hard to compare that

But as far as open world goes, i prefer crysis, borderlands and oblivion a lot more than stalker

I can see your point though , there aren't many openworld games and if you really like that like i do , then stalker can be very welcome but still open world or not i can't help to find this game kinda boring.

[QUOTE="Nick3306"][QUOTE="evildead6789"]i can't understand the stalker hype, i mean some things are cool but i mean, enemies spawn sometimes back on the same place. There is no real interaction with the environment, you have your suit and some guns yes but there's nothing really that compells with stalker. The game doesn't suck me in like mass effect does. The story isn't really interesting and the characters neither. Gunbattles aren't spectacular I must say , i really , really can't understand why you would prefer stalker above crysis or mass effect. I know it's not your typical fps, you could compare it a little with borderlands only borderlands is ten times better. Even with the complete mod the graphics don't look really artistic and from a technical point it's almost previous gen. I'm stalker number one now and i just finished that laboratary part with all those zombified stalkers. Well maybe i will continue to play because i hate it to leave a game unfinished but it's kinda like the same deal with singularity, i just gave up suddenly because it get's boring. The difference is with singularity that singularity wasn't really boring in the beginning and stalker was in a lot of moments boring, some moments not but still... pretty boring game stalkerevildead6789

I wouldn't call borderlands or crysis or oblivion scripted, these are open world games too

Even fallout could join this battle allthough the vat system makes it a little more rpg than fps

Mass effect is less open world , allthough the planets are somewhat open world.

bioshock is more of a corridor shooter so it's hard to compare that

But as far as open world goes, i prefer crysis, borderlands and oblivion a lot more than stalker

I can see your point though , there aren't many openworld games and if you really like that like i do , then stalker can be very welcome but still open world or not i can't help to find this game kinda boring.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

[QUOTE="Nick3306"]Hey, not every game can be a linear and scripted actionfest. The only part of any stalker game i found boring was the beginning of clear sky. As for the story, its the most interesting story i have ever seen in a game, the fact that it doesnt force feed you the facts and lets you find out about the zone on your own its very exciting.SF_KiLLaMaN

I wouldn't call borderlands or crysis or oblivion scripted, these are open world games too

Even fallout could join this battle allthough the vat system makes it a little more rpg than fps

Mass effect is less open world , allthough the planets are somewhat open world.

bioshock is more of a corridor shooter so it's hard to compare that

But as far as open world goes, i prefer crysis, borderlands and oblivion a lot more than stalker

I can see your point though , there aren't many openworld games and if you really like that like i do , then stalker can be very welcome but still open world or not i can't help to find this game kinda boring.

Well that's because stalker is in many ways an rpg , crysis is a first person shooter and i don't hate this game i just think some people overrate it , borderlands is a game that has most similarities with stalker and i think it's a zillion times better.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

I wouldn't call borderlands or crysis or oblivion scripted, these are open world games too

Even fallout could join this battle allthough the vat system makes it a little more rpg than fps

Mass effect is less open world , allthough the planets are somewhat open world.

bioshock is more of a corridor shooter so it's hard to compare that

But as far as open world goes, i prefer crysis, borderlands and oblivion a lot more than stalker

I can see your point though , there aren't many openworld games and if you really like that like i do , then stalker can be very welcome but still open world or not i can't help to find this game kinda boring.

evildead6789

Well that's because stalker is in many ways an rpg , crysis is a first person shooter and i don't hate this game i just think some people overrate it , borderlands is a game that has most similarities with stalker and i think it's a zillion times better.

Great post!

I tried the link stalker clear sky complete mod, its like huge improvement on the orginal clear sky graphics, although I was very far into game I'm starting over :D

will post screenies a later date.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

I wouldn't call borderlands or crysis or oblivion scripted, these are open world games too

Even fallout could join this battle allthough the vat system makes it a little more rpg than fps

Mass effect is less open world , allthough the planets are somewhat open world.

bioshock is more of a corridor shooter so it's hard to compare that

But as far as open world goes, i prefer crysis, borderlands and oblivion a lot more than stalker

I can see your point though , there aren't many openworld games and if you really like that like i do , then stalker can be very welcome but still open world or not i can't help to find this game kinda boring.

evildead6789

Well that's because stalker is in many ways an rpg , crysis is a first person shooter and i don't hate this game i just think some people overrate it , borderlands is a game that has most similarities with stalker and i think it's a zillion times better.

Yeah, I think people who really like STALKER like it most because of the atmosphere.
I think its the most immersive game from the last 5 years (Fallout came close but STALKER wins).
But I didn't like it either for the first 50 minutes of the game, but after a while it really sucked me in, its an intense game :)

I got to say the guy comparing Borderland to Stalker its not really a comparison. They are so different i am not entirely sure how you get the same feel from them? Anyhow regardless maybe the atmosphere has not sucked you in like it did for myself.

I also like the survival element of Stalker and the unexpected always around the corner. Great game scary as hell sometimes as well! Red Forest almost caused me to fall out of my chair when getting Stalked by a Blood Sucker and i mean STALKED damn thing didnt engage me it moved around my per phial vision circling me then attacked minutes later! Probably one of the single most scary moment in a video game ever i was 25 at the time as well lol!

Love the game another time i remember is on the latest where i was out to hunt a mutant! I waited for the thing from morning until night! Through Rain and shine i watched denizens of the Zone about there business from a high Perch seemingly safe to pop this mutant in the head when it emerged. 2 Controllers ("Nasty things") Walked past at one point i allowed them to go not wanting to give away my position! Packs of Dogs went past hunting other animals. A few Stalkers also walked underneath my perch going about there business looking for artifacts or what ever!

Then it rained and it rained HARD major storm visibility approaching zero then the darkness came! At this point i knew this thing was close by it was getting to the point where it either showed up or i got down and tried again after another mission or 2. Scanning the area with my Binoculars i pick up on a VERY fast moving creature in the distance! Then its gone disappearing behind a building i am perched next 2. I continue scanning and watch a pack of dogs once again pass by in the vicinity.

Seeing no immediate danger i actually get off my perch and descend the ladder in the driving rain and darkness and go in the direction i last spotted that fast moving object / i assumed creature. At this point in the game i had some weak night vision so i was not completely blind and being a bit of a purest for some reason i never upgrade pass the grainy green night vision. Anyhow approaching the side of this building not being able to see much of anything due to the rain and Lightening i turn the corner! Nothing! Its not here!

Cursing and worrying that the heavy traffic in this area will get the better of me i run back to my perch quickly to climb to safety! Back at last i pan the area. once again fast moving object this time confirmed as a creature of what appeared large dog size! Once again it returned to its spot behind the building below me! This time i thought i will have you! Climbing down the ladder still in the rain i hit the ground and silently approach the area eventually deactivating Night Vision to prevent noise!

Not fooling for the whole IM GONNA leap out of the corner i take a wide berth of the building ("tho not to wide lest i attract something else") Nothing! Then a glimpse its gone the other side! so i approach i can hear its breathing fast breathing! Thats when i checked behind me! It leaped at me and almost killed me instantly not only causing a minor heart condition but almost breaking my Mouse in shock! Tho its not long before i am back to it and i never took my hand off the keyboard back peddling like a Mo Fo! I open fire full Auto ("Rare for me unless i am fighting Mutants i much prefer single shot"), This thing flinches away and i peg it for my perch!

Of course! It dosent follow and once again i have to hunt it! So much for shooting it from safety! I killed it after some more Stalking! Not once did i save until the thing lay dead!

Many Many great fire fights desperate ones at that as well! Having a gaggle of Mercs chase me around a building site after i attempt to locate then pick them all off one by one silently from VERY long range, outskirts of the facility they are protecting. I wind up in a HUGE firefight not in the way that guns were blazing but more to the point i was being flanked and to be honest almost outmaneuvered by AI which may i add was a bit galling at 1st. I remember at least 5 of them approaching from the left and i mean i was pretty far away i actually had time to witness them ducking in and out of cover and racing around the facility to my position but i ignored them and concentrated on the guys in front who much to my amusement had stayed to either pin me down or just have some Pot shots at extreme range!

Most of them died before the nade from the 3 or 4 guys flanking to the right landed next to me! That was a pretty freaky fight to be honest for some reason the game seemed to go super AI mode on my poor arse. Oh i legged it from the Nade but took heavy damage. I knew they were on me so i headed to the now I HOPED empty facility they were all protecting. Luckily i had killed all the guys remaining behind and knowing that the 2 Squads would be heading back here in seconds i took up position and killed them all. Oh not before having to run away again tho due to more deadly nade throws which killed me more than anything else in that game! MEGA NADE MADE TO HOME IN ON YOUR HEAD! That made me rage sometimes. Tho good in the way you had to use your head when engaging and changing position.

More Sotries i want to hear more expereinces from people like TC told us.

Nothing like moving within a zone only to be jumped by 4 snorks right when you arrive. The funny thing is that I was heading back to the STALKER camp on the Skadovsk, so I though I was home free. That was just today too. There are literally too many crazy moments in STALKER games for me to recount them all. Entering the X8 lab in pripyat is one of the creepier moments I have had in gaming. It is especially creepy if you play it with the lights off and headphones on full blast.

That atmosphere of that game is beaten by none. The story isn't very interesting, neither are the side quests but the ability to explore everything and become the most powerful STALKER is the funnest part of that game to me.

One of the most ridiculous parts of SoC are the Controllers. Whenever I encounter one I just run. It's the only enemy that never fails to make me run.

That atmosphere of that game is beaten by none. The story isn't very interesting, neither are the side quests but the ability to explore everything and become the most powerful STALKER is the funnest part of that game to me.

One of the most ridiculous parts of SoC are the Controllers. Whenever I encounter one I just run. It's the only enemy that never fails to make me run.

PS2_ROCKS

I have yet to play Stalker. Every time I go to buy a game, i have others I would rather have and always end up not getting Stalker.

This settles it. I have never felt as immersed in any game before as S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has now managed to make me feel. Honestly, how could any game ever out do this? The following is rather long, but it is an experience I just had in Shadow of Chernobyl, and perfectly explains why it is such an immersive game.

(Also, I had the Complete 2009 mod with the realistic weapon extension.)

I am walking down a path, hills and abandoned trailers on each side of me. All is quiet, and I hear those tiny little beeps that let me know other S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'s are near by. Instinctively, I run up the hill to my left and take partial cover behind a nearby bolder. Ahead of me, down on the path, I see a group of opposing S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'s posted up. They're in my way. This is the only way to reach my destination. I know I have to kill them.

I scope in on the enemy in the middle. Immediately, my three options rush through my mind:

A. I can put my scope on single shot, and aim for a head shot. But, what if my bullet goes off course and misses? I'll have missed my chance to take one of them out without alerting the others.

B. I can aim at his upper body and release a few small bursts, almost insuring his death. But he has armor on. What if only a bullet or two hits and my gun jams? I'll have wasted ammo and again, given away my position.

C. I can switch to my grenade launcher and take them all out. This is surely the most effective way to take care of them, and will get me out of this unharmed, right? But. . .I only have three grenades. What if I get into a tight situation later and need that final wasted shot?

In the end, I decide to take what I believe to be the best option with the least cons. Option B. I scope in on his stomach, and time slows down as I release two small burts. One bullet hits his stomach, one hits his shoulder, and another hits his head. The time flow returns to normal as his allies scatter to either side of him, and bullets begin to fly. I scope in again, and do the same to another enemy on his right. He drops.

Sounds become distant. My vision becomes blurry. I realise I have been hit by a sniper, and am quickly bleeding out. I'm almost dead. "I'm going to die." I think. I turn around and run for better cover as bullets fly by and hit the ground around me. My screen is wobbly and my health is nearly gone. I get behind cover, and as quickly as I can, I stop the bleeding.

I run down the hill and cross the path to the other side. I quickly make my way around to flank their sniper. I see him. I scope in, and quickly take him out from cover, from an unknown position. The others didn't see me cross. My gun is silenced, so they're still looking to where I was last.

I run around behind them. Behind a trailer for cover. I lean out, directly behind them. I've done it. I have the perfect flank. I squeeze my trigger, but, only two bullets release before my gun jams. In this split second after those shots release, and they realized I was behind them, I knew I had to make a choice.

Pray that my reload speed is faster than they are, switch to my pistol, run, or die.

I switch to my .45, and pop a bullet into the closest ones head before he can turn around. I go back behind cover and reload my assault rifle before running out. After reloading, I run out, strafing to the other side of the road while firing. They all drop.

Deathykins

that sounded awesome. Stalker is a one of a kind game and definately one of the best FPS of all time.

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]

That atmosphere of that game is beaten by none. The story isn't very interesting, neither are the side quests but the ability to explore everything and become the most powerful STALKER is the funnest part of that game to me.

One of the most ridiculous parts of SoC are the Controllers. Whenever I encounter one I just run. It's the only enemy that never fails to make me run.

Nick3306

[QUOTE="Nick3306"][QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]

That atmosphere of that game is beaten by none. The story isn't very interesting, neither are the side quests but the ability to explore everything and become the most powerful STALKER is the funnest part of that game to me.

One of the most ridiculous parts of SoC are the Controllers. Whenever I encounter one I just run. It's the only enemy that never fails to make me run.

SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="Nick3306"]Man you gotta get up in there with the shotgun.Deathykins

Too bad Call of Pripyat is broken. The loading times are insane and the game crashes/hangs way too much. I'm using it with the latest patch and the complete mod. But yeah, STALKER is amazing.

coolmonkeykid

I'd play stalker if the combat actually entertained me. The environments were cool, but the combat was the worst ive ever seen. Still, I loved for example, seeing a group of guys singing and playing guitar by a tree in the sunset.

I love STALKER, cant play Pripyat though, it always chugged like mad with random pauses throughout the gameplay, that and the insane load times, really wish I never bought it. I love the original STLKER though, I played it since its first release day and loved it from the moment I istalled it, played with Complete all the way through later on aswell and it makes it even better. Def one of my favourite games of all time no doubt.V4LENT1NE

i can't understand the stalker hype, i mean some things are cool but i mean, enemies spawn sometimes back on the same place. There is no real interaction with the environment, you have your suit and some guns yes but there's nothing really that compells with stalker. The game doesn't suck me in like mass effect does. The story isn't really interesting and the characters neither. Gunbattles aren't spectacular I must say , i really , really can't understand why you would prefer stalker above crysis or mass effect. I know it's not your typical fps, you could compare it a little with borderlands only borderlands is ten times better. Even with the complete mod the graphics don't look really artistic and from a technical point it's almost previous gen. I'm stalker number one now and i just finished that laboratary part with all those zombified stalkers. Well maybe i will continue to play because i hate it to leave a game unfinished but it's kinda like the same deal with singularity, i just gave up suddenly because it get's boring. The difference is with singularity that singularity wasn't really boring in the beginning and stalker was in a lot of moments boring, some moments not but still... pretty boring game stalkerevildead6789

Fair enough. Not everyone is going to like it. Personally, I completely agree with TC and all the other users praising the STALKER series and in particular SOC as some of the best shooters in a long time. I've played through SOC three times now and with each play through it gets more and more enjoyable. I seriously don't understand why people don't like the ballistics system in stalker. On my last play through, the mission where you and a bunch of Duty soldiers attack the Freedom base is probably the most intense shooting in any game I've played. It was on the hardest difficulty (this is with the realistic gun mod too) and it took me literally 10-15 attempts to finally clear the Freedom base, but it never got old. My troubles were doubly rewarded by quickly scavenging all the corpses for precious ammo and expensive guns they dropped.