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#1 A_Rabid_Dog
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I have been thinking about upgrading my GPU lateley and have been researching the best ones on the market right now. I currently have a GTX460 (1GB) in my rig right now (my mobo has PCIE2.0, not 3.0 if that makes a difference). I like to stick with Nvidia and can't decide between the GTX650 TI Boost, or the GTX660 TI. 

Will the 650 TI Boost give me that much more speed and make it worth it? Or should I invest the (a lot of) extra money into the GTX660 TI?

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GTX 650ti is on par with a GTX 560, and the boost version puts it in the GTX 570/580 range. The GTX 660ti is about 25% faster then a GTX 650ti boost, I would wait until the GTX 760ti releases later this month its a basically a tweaked GTX 670.
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#3 A_Rabid_Dog
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Hm. I was kind of looking at upgrading today, because my current card will be going to someone who needs it. 

Also, I REALLY don't want to spend over $250 on a graphics card. The 660TI is really pushing my budget, and I know a 760TI will be even more expensive.

I'm not really asking what TO upgrade to, but rather if the cards are worth the investment to upgrade from my current card. If there is not much of a leap from the 460 to the 650TI, I might hold off.

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Hm. I was kind of looking at upgrading today, because my current card will be going to someone who needs it. 

Also, I REALLY don't want to spend over $250 on a graphics card. The 660TI is really pushing my budget, and I know a 760TI will be even more expensive.

I'm not really asking what TO upgrade to, but rather if the cards are worth the investment to upgrade from my current card. If there is not much of a leap from the 460 to the 650TI, I might hold off.

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760ti will be the same price as the 660ti 760 will be the same price as the 660 (assuming there will be both a 760 and 760ti) A GTX660 (non ti) sits in between the cards you're looking at, any reason you weren't considering it?
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#5 A_Rabid_Dog
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[QUOTE="A_Rabid_Dog"]

Hm. I was kind of looking at upgrading today, because my current card will be going to someone who needs it. 

Also, I REALLY don't want to spend over $250 on a graphics card. The 660TI is really pushing my budget, and I know a 760TI will be even more expensive.

I'm not really asking what TO upgrade to, but rather if the cards are worth the investment to upgrade from my current card. If there is not much of a leap from the 460 to the 650TI, I might hold off.

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760ti will be the same price as the 660ti 760 will be the same price as the 660 (assuming there will be both a 760 and 760ti) A GTX660 (non ti) sits in between the cards you're looking at, any reason you weren't considering it?

 

Not particularly. the 650TI and 660TI are the basically Lows and Highs of my budget respectively. I've read a couple places that the current card I have, the gtx460, is pretty close to the 650TI, but i'm not so sure about that. 

Thanks for the pricing info, too. I didn't know that. 

Basically, I want to make sure It's WORTH upgrading from the 460, as I bought this card over 2 years ago. 

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GTX 460 to GTX 650ti = not worth it GTX 460 to GTX 660ti = good upgrade GTX 460 to GTX 760ti= great upgrade
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#7 A_Rabid_Dog
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GTX 460 to GTX 650ti = not worth it GTX 460 to GTX 660ti = good upgrade GTX 460 to GTX 760ti= great upgrade04dcarraher

 

That pretty much sums up what I am looking for. If it is going to be the same price as the 660TI, I will wait and pick up the 760TI. You said it will be out this month? 

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]GTX 460 to GTX 650ti = not worth it GTX 460 to GTX 660ti = good upgrade GTX 460 to GTX 760ti= great upgradeA_Rabid_Dog

 

That pretty much sums up what I am looking for. If it is going to be the same price as the 660TI, I will wait and pick up the 760TI. You said it will be out this month? 

Suppose to be out on the 25th to early July
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#9 mastershake575
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The supeclocked version of the GTX 660 (the non-ti version) is a good option in $190-210 range (I wouldn't settle for anything less than that given you budget).

You could also pick up a used GTX 660 TI OC/SC on amazon for around $250 or get the tahiti LE version of the 7870.

The GTX 760 (I don't know if there naming it Ti or not) is suposely coming out in the next 10 days. If it does offer near GTX 670 performance (which is rumored) then don't expect it for less than $299

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#10 pawq4
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Yeah I would recommend going for a 760 Ti. It will be close in performance to my 7970 probably. I had a 6870 before, which is pretty much the AMD equivalent of the 460, and it was a great upgrade.

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#11 Bikouchu35
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7870xt then overclock it until you reach the moon.

Thats plenty of bang for the buck.

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if you really want nvidia the 660ti is more than twice the power, i wouldn't not settle for a 650ti.
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#13 sexyeyes79
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If you can't wait.  Here.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130911

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008

tempting.......

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008

tempting.......

Bikouchu35

 

That is tempting.  So is this-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127675

Neither one is tempting enough to make me pull the trigger before I see the official GTX 760 reviews though.  

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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008

tempting.......

hartsickdiscipl

 

That is tempting.  So is this-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127675

Neither one is tempting enough to make me pull the trigger before I see the official GTX 760 reviews though.  

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1349187&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=3891137&SID=rewrite

Here have BL2 and another 2 bux :cool:

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008

tempting.......

Bikouchu35

 

That is tempting.  So is this-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127675

Neither one is tempting enough to make me pull the trigger before I see the official GTX 760 reviews though.  

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1349187&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=3891137&SID=rewrite

Here have BL2 and another 2 bux :cool:

 

Lol.. It's a beast card and a good price, no doubt.  I just have to see what that 760 can do!

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#18 Bikouchu35
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Lol.. It's a beast card and a good price, no doubt.  I just have to see what that 760 can do!

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Hah I know. Just to put things in perspective 760 will obviously be watered down 770 in price/performance. The best case scenario would be $300 identical version of 670 likely with 2gb.

Even if thats the case the 7970+3gb competes with 680 and 770.

If that helps with your decision making!

I would had pull the trigger if it wasn't for ca tax, and a trip to sin city. I'm thinking of getting a cheap open-box 7950 for $240 and call it day, less mir/game coupons to deal with.

edit: yeah is not stock pcb I think. I'm not sure how well this thing can o/c.

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Lol.. It's a beast card and a good price, no doubt.  I just have to see what that 760 can do!

Bikouchu35

Hah I know. Just to put things in perspective 760 will obviously be watered down 770 in price/performance. The best case scenario would be $300 identical version of 670 likely with 2gb.

Even if thats the case the 7970+3gb competes with 680 and 770.

If that helps with your decision making!

I would had pull the trigger if it wasn't for ca tax, and a trip to sin city. I'm thinking of getting a cheap open-box 7950 for $240 and call it day, less mir/game coupons to deal with.

edit: yeah is not stock pcb I think. I'm not sure how well this thing can o/c.

 

From what I've seen, the 7970 competes with the GTX 670 in terms of performance, and the 7970 GHZ Edition competes with the GTX 680/770.  That might mean that the GTX 760 will be within a few percentage points of 7970 performance for less money.  If it's close, I have to give the nod to Nvidia.  I've had better luck with their products.  I'm not hating on AMD-based cards, because I know they are good products.  

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_670/28.html

I'm running a single 1080p display.  I doubt the 3GB versus 2GB will be a big factor for me.  Now if the GTX 760 is more than 5 or 6 percent slower than the 7970, I might have to go back to the red team.  I'm actually already a bit disappointed with the published specs of the GTX 760.  We already have a $300 GTX 660 Ti on the market that has the same number of cores as the GTX 670.  They skimped on the memory subsystem of the 660 Ti.  Now we get the 760, which has the full-fat GTX 670 memory subsystem, but they skimp on the cores and still plan to sell it for $300.  Why can't we get a refined GTX 670 for $300?  Is that too much to ask for, since this is a refresh cycle, but a new product generation?  The GTX 770 is a refined GTX 680 with faster VRAM for less money than the 680.  Why can't the GTX 760 be a refined GTX 670 (same number of cores) for less money?  Unless this card pulls a rabbit out of it's ass, or is priced at $250-270, it may be disappointing.  We shall see.  

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#20 Bikouchu35
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7970 w/good oc = 7970 ghz, with luck the oc headroom would be the same for less money.

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My 7970 OC's to 1250/1650 (from 925/1375) and blows my old 670 away. Personally I would look for a good deal or used 7950 and OC the crap out of it. Some newer 7950s are vcore locked so you can't add voltage (lower OCability) but all of HIS brand and the older PCB Sapphires are good to go. Steer clear from Gigabyte and XFX.
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#22 kraken2109
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A 760 got leaked (Saw on techpowerup), it was an overclocked version (don't think it was a huge overclock), it matched a 670 in 3dmark - not bad!

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#23 A_Rabid_Dog
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I'm hearing mixed speculation regarding the GTX760(ti?) that should be out tomorrow. Some articles are saying that it might be LESS powerful than the 660ti. 

 

Regardless, I decided to wait until the end of this week to see reviews/comparisons of the card when it comes out. 

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I'm hearing mixed speculation regarding the GTX760(ti?) that should be out tomorrow. Some articles are saying that it might be LESS powerful than the 660ti. 

 

Regardless, I decided to wait until the end of this week to see reviews/comparisons of the card when it comes out. 

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According to this leak it matches a 670 when overclocked slightly, hoping it's accurate http://www.techpowerup.com/186102/custom-nvidia-gtx-760-card-pictured-and-tested.html
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I would wait for the GTX 760.

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http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/159459-nvidia-launches-the-250-gtx-760

 

Looks like it's actually less powerful than the 660TI in most respects, a little faster in some. 

I think i'm going to spend the extra money and get a 670/680 off of Amazon.

 

Also, is does anyone else use this site for performance benchmakr comparisons? 

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

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http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/159459-nvidia-launches-the-250-gtx-760

 

Looks like it's actually less powerful than the 660TI in most respects, a little faster in some. 

I think i'm going to spend the extra money and get a 670/680 off of Amazon.

 

Also, is does anyone else use this site for performance benchmakr comparisons? 

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

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It beats the 660ti in 90% of games
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http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/159459-nvidia-launches-the-250-gtx-760

 

Looks like it's actually less powerful than the 660TI in most respects, a little faster in some. 

I think i'm going to spend the extra money and get a 670/680 off of Amazon.

 

Also, is does anyone else use this site for performance benchmakr comparisons? 

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

A_Rabid_Dog

 

I think you should read a few more reviews.  The GTX 760 is faster than the 660 Ti in most games.  The factory-overclocked models are on par with a GTX 670.  

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GeForce_GTX_760_WindForce_OC/27.html

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#29 Bikouchu35
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Meh, the thing is clocked so high already, not too much wiggle room. I may get it if its cheaper, but I rather grab a 7950 or 670.

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#30 kraken2109
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Meh, the thing is clocked so high already, not too much wiggle room. I may get it if its cheaper, but I rather grab a 7950 or 670.

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760 is faster than 7950 and overclocked models are matching 670 speeds. Obviously you can overclock the 670, but it's quite a lot more expensive.
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#31 A_Rabid_Dog
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After all of this, I wound up splurging and going with the GTX680, pricey it may be.

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After all of this, I wound up splurging and going with the GTX680, pricey it may be.

A_Rabid_Dog

 

How much did you pay for it?  The GTX 770 is better, and it's cheaper most places. Â