POLL! PC gamers will you be getting COD: BlackOps?

Just wondering if you, PC gamers, are going to get BlackOps or not.

Yes!

I missed the last 2 CoD games and I loved the MW2 multiplayer for the short time I played it on the free weekend.

nope, because activision will be extorting money out of people for map packs and content.

nope, because activision will be extorting money out of people for map packs and content.

PcGamingRig

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nope, because activision will be extorting money out of people for map packs and content.

Daytona_178

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nope, because activision will be extorting money out of people for map packs and content.

PcGamingRig

Yes, absolutely. I must admit I was pretty damn excited when I saw the multiplayer teaser. The new weapon additions look great, I like the UI changes so far, and I think there's some more MP customization surprises that they have yet to announce.

I just love the MW style of gameplay... very fast and accurate, keeps you on your toes and the adrenaline up. My only hope is that Black Ops quickens the pace to MW1 levels instead of feeling more like MW2.

Won't buy CoD:Black Ops and won't buy Medal of Honor.

I stopped playing CoD games after World at War, it just gets tiring after a while playing the same game over and over again. There are much more interesting FPS coming up that at least try do to 'something' new.

Meh I stopped at COD 4 and don't particularly feel an urge to revisit the franchise to be honest.

No. Starcraft 2 was my first and will be my last $59.99 PC game I will buy. No more price gouging of PC gamers, please.Philhellene

Aww boo hoo, a developer wants to get paid for their game and people will buy it in mass for $60.

In about a year, you will be hard pressed to find a $50 PC game. Trust me. Development costs are soaring. You need to make your money back somehow.

It's mentalities like yours that the PC gamer is somehow entitled to so much more for less is what is leading so many developers away from the PC.

I guess it all depends. I mean, one of my favorite multiplayer games of all time is COD 2, so it's hard to completely stay away from the series. If this game doesn't have good dedicated servers for the pc or a couple modes that disable killstreaks (I strongly detest them) I'm probably going to stay away from it. However, there were some cool things in the latest multiplayer trailer that I saw so it is a bit tempting. I just hope it's not going to be another rehash with improvements on the things I don't want.

[QUOTE="Philhellene"]No. Starcraft 2 was my first and will be my last $59.99 PC game I will buy. No more price gouging of PC gamers, please.Wasdie

Aww boo hoo, a developer wants to get paid for their game and people will buy it in mass for $60.

In about a year, you will be hard pressed to find a $50 PC game. Trust me. Development costs are soaring. You need to make your money back somehow.

It's mentalities like yours that the PC gamer is somehow entitled to so much more for less is what is leading so many developers away from the PC.

Last time I checked my paycheck isn't going up, so why should the developer's?

[QUOTE="Philhellene"]No. Starcraft 2 was my first and will be my last $59.99 PC game I will buy. No more price gouging of PC gamers, please.Wasdie

Aww boo hoo, a developer wants to get paid for their game and people will buy it in mass for $60.

In about a year, you will be hard pressed to find a $50 PC game. Trust me. Development costs are soaring. You need to make your money back somehow.

It's mentalities like yours that the PC gamer is somehow entitled to so much more for less is what is leading so many developers away from the PC.

Money; that's what leading the developers away from strictly PC only games.

Let's face it, the big money that these developers make from games are on consoles solely due to parents. It is easier for a parent to buy a console, buy a game, hook up the console, put the game in and hand the controller to their kid. A whole 10-15 minute process (as long as the parent knows how to hook up the console - from getting home, unpacking and setting up of said console, insert game).

Now you take most parents today know how to use a computer, but they don't have one that works very well for most gaming needs. If their computer isn't ideal for gaming, they need to either a) upgrade (themselves or take the PC to a computer store) or b) they have to buy one designed for gaming and they're going to get price gouged in the process.

If the parent were to upgrade/buy a new computer, they now need to install the game (5-20+ minutes, depending on the game and hardware the PC has), try to run it (there could be complications - crashes/BSOD/lockups/hangs/stuttering) and hope things go smooth. If there is a problem, they might not know how to fix it and then things turn into a huge dilemma for them. All in all, this process could roughly take them anywhere from 10 minutes (assuming they have a computer to handle gaming and know what they're doing if a problem comes up) to maybe days worth of time if they have to take their computer someplace for upgrades and then maybe return to the computer store if any problems come up due to their lack of computer knowledge.

Let's face it, parents want the least hassle they have to deal with when it comes to gaming. So this means that parents will turn to consoles and not to PCs for their kid's gaming needs.

Aww boo hoo, a developer wants to get paid for their game and people will buy it in mass for $60.

In about a year, you will be hard pressed to find a $50 PC game. Trust me. Development costs are soaring. You need to make your money back somehow.

It's mentalities like yours that the PC gamer is somehow entitled to so much more for less is what is leading so many developers away from the PC.

Wasdie

Then why aren't console games going up in price ? There is a clear reason why PC games are $10 cheaper than the console version and that is the console royalty fee. PC gamers pay the same amount to developers as console users do per copy of the game, the extra that console gamers pay goes straight into MS or Sony's pocket. There is no license or royalty fee on the PC therefore there is no excuse for PC games to be $60. Now if console games start costing $70 and PC games start costing $60 then that is acceptable, but last time I checked console games are still $60.

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[QUOTE="Philhellene"]No. Starcraft 2 was my first and will be my last $59.99 PC game I will buy. No more price gouging of PC gamers, please.morrowindnic

Aww boo hoo, a developer wants to get paid for their game and people will buy it in mass for $60.

In about a year, you will be hard pressed to find a $50 PC game. Trust me. Development costs are soaring. You need to make your money back somehow.

It's mentalities like yours that the PC gamer is somehow entitled to so much more for less is what is leading so many developers away from the PC.

Last time I checked my paycheck isn't going up, so why should the developer's?

Developers have people to pay, licensing fees to pay, places to rent (if they don't own their own building), utilizes to pay, maintenance costs for repairs and the fact that it takes much longer to develop games today then it did years ago, things start to cost more in the long run. If the games take longer to develop, that means that they have to pay their people over a longer period of time to work on the game....

Does it suck that costs are going up and the majority of the population aren't getting paid more or at all due to being laid off.....damn right it does. Sadly though, it's something we have to try our best to deal with.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Aww boo hoo, a developer wants to get paid for their game and people will buy it in mass for $60.

In about a year, you will be hard pressed to find a $50 PC game. Trust me. Development costs are soaring. You need to make your money back somehow.

It's mentalities like yours that the PC gamer is somehow entitled to so much more for less is what is leading so many developers away from the PC.

charmingcharlie

Then why aren't console games going up in price ? There is a clear reason why PC games are $10 cheaper than the console version and that is the console royalty fee. PC gamers pay the same amount to developers as console users do per copy of the game, the extra that console gamers pay goes straight into MS or Sony's pocket. There is no license or royalty fee on the PC therefore there is no excuse for PC games to be $60. Now if console games start costing $70 and PC games start costing $60 then that is acceptable, but last time I checked console games are still $60.

It's also the consumers fault for the rise in prices.

How many of you pay that extra $10-20 for a Collector's Edition on a game? Hell, some of them cause the price to double or more because of some item or items that come with the game.

While the items are novelties only and don't add any benefit to the game (aside from maybe some "special in game item" you might get from the collectors edition), the actions of people spending all this extra money on something that really doesn't cost the developer much, just goes to show them that the consumers can, will and do pay more for a video game. Be it for the 360, PS3, Wii or PC.

Now that the game prices are starting to creep up, that means the collector editions will creep up (still the general $10-20 above a basic game cost)....and people will continue to buy these overpriced editions just for simple little items that do nothing more than maybe sit on your desk or hang from your wall.

I blame both sides of the coin. I blame the greed from developers and I blame the consumers from egging the developers on from showing them that we can, have and will continue to spend more on games. They know this now....it'll be a forever ongoing battle and the consumer will always be on the losing end of things when it comes to cost.

[QUOTE="Philhellene"]No. Starcraft 2 was my first and will be my last $59.99 PC game I will buy. No more price gouging of PC gamers, please.Wasdie

Aww boo hoo, a developer wants to get paid for their game and people will buy it in mass for $60.

In about a year, you will be hard pressed to find a $50 PC game. Trust me. Development costs are soaring. You need to make your money back somehow.

It's mentalities like yours that the PC gamer is somehow entitled to so much more for less is what is leading so many developers away from the PC.

He isn't crying he is making a good point, it's his money and if he finds that $60 is too expensive than he has the option to buy a $50 game instead, and no that choice does not make developers turn to consoles.

It's also the consumers fault for the rise in prices.

How many of you pay that extra $10-20 for a Collector's Edition on a game?

neatfeatguy

Not many people do. The vast majority of gamers buys the regular version. Doesn't that prove that we aren't willing to pay more ?

Depends are they still using that noob engine?

Nope, not a chance. $60 for the FPS equivalent of the Madden series (slap a fresh coat of paint on a tired formula and ship it) just doesn't appeal to me in the least.

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It's also the consumers fault for the rise in prices.

How many of you pay that extra $10-20 for a Collector's Edition on a game?

R4gn4r0k

Not many people do. The vast majority of gamers buys the regular version. Doesn't that prove that we aren't willing to pay more ?

Nope, it still shows them that people are willing to pay more.

Provide a service, show people what you can do compared to a similar company with similar products, then charge more over your competition because you have a better (yet similar) product - this happens all the time at businesses. Once these companies see they are still making sales at the higher prices and profiting from it they'll eventually creep up their overall pricing.

Go to a restaurant, check their wine list prices and what wines they have. Next time you go out, find a similar restaurant and check the wine list prices there and compare what you find. The better of the two (or perhaps one is known more for their wine selection) will have higher prices on the same products. They do this because people there will pay the prices for what they offer. Same thing is happening in the PC gaming market.

These developers are noticing that consumers are still buying their games at higher pricing; be it a physical copy from a retail store or a digital copy via Steam, EA Online, D2D and whatever other digital stores are out there. Thus they are adapting to their findings and slowly starting to charge more for their products.

I have yet to buy a Call of Duty game on the PC since Call of Duty 2 (my younger brother bought me a copy of World at War for like $9 off amazon a little ways back, but I have refused to buy their Call of Duty games) for a couple reasons:

1) I'm cheap and I rarely spend over $25 on a game.

2) I disliked how Call of Duty Modern Warfare played (more so in MW2, the first was ok) after playing the games with my brother on his 360.

I'd be interested in buying a copy of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, but it's still priced at $30. No way in hell I'd pay that much for that game because I'm cheap. If I can ever find a new copy at $20 or less, I'd buy it (no I don't do ebay, not a fan of it due to past issues).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XzxvDTPm-g&feature=related

Nope. CoD just isn't very interesting to me.

No... But if i get it as a Christmas gift or something, i'll still play it! :P

Perhaps. If maybe the make the gun play a bit more fun (i.e. recoil, not 100% accurate, actually have to aim at long range not hip fire spam etc- basically make it more cod4ish),

not having an aids list of perks like one man army (hurrr durrr sit in a corner and spam noob tube for an entire round),

Commando (hurrr durrr teleport knife- well now they have some sort of stupid ballistic knife- I mean wtf knife is supposed to be a last resort and at least take skill to kill someone with, hence why it's always embaressing to die by it. Now it's better than a tactical nuke),

Not having stupid kill streaks (least there is no tactical nuke but a napalm strike will probably be aids and the SR71 strike is probably a tact nuke anyway lol).

More open/larger maps and a 32 player count. Cod4 maps were for the most part fine with 32 players, apart from say the noobness of nade spamming in the boat, killhouse and some others.

Maybe if they fixed all of these I may get it, but they won't, so I probably will not be getting it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XzxvDTPm-g&feature=related

mattuk69

Somewhere, someplace, a village is missing its idiot.

Skipped MW2 so I'll be avoiding this one as well.

The "boohoo $60 game" argument is stupid.

We have every right to be pissed off about that. Game quality has gone straight down the ****er these days, with crappy dev teams taking all sorts of short cuts and noobifying games for consolers. Your game is not worth $60, believe me.

And lol at anyone who pays $60 for a PC game, within two weeks the price will fall somewhere to a normal price and within a couple months it will be half off.

Perhaps. If maybe the make the gun play a bit more fun (i.e. recoil, not 100% accurate, actually have to aim at long range not hip fire spam etc- basically make it more cod4ish),

not having an aids list of perks like one man army (hurrr durrr sit in a corner and spam noob tube for an entire round),

Commando (hurrr durrr teleport knife- well now they have some sort of stupid ballistic knife- I mean wtf knife is supposed to be a last resort and at least take skill to kill someone with, hence why it's always embaressing to die by it. Now it's better than a tactical nuke),

Not having stupid kill streaks (least there is no tactical nuke but a napalm strike will probably be aids and the SR71 strike is probably a tact nuke anyway lol).

More open/larger maps and a 32 player count. Cod4 maps were for the most part fine with 32 players, apart from say the noobness of nade spamming in the boat, killhouse and some others.

Maybe if they fixed all of these I may get it, but they won't, so I probably will not be getting it.

October_Tide

But then it wouldn't be CoD, lol.

No more for me. The campaigns are overdone, with a lot of one-time features that don't show up more than once. It's about the experience, yes, but I don't feel like I'm fully immersed in a warzone anymore. It's all special forces, small squads, and over-the-top action. For about five hours you get this.

...and then you move on to the chaotic multiplayer. So no, I won't be playing Black Ops.

Yes!

I missed the last 2 CoD games and I loved the MW2 multiplayer for the short time I played it on the free weekend.

Daytona_178

Get Cod4 seriously its the best (of the newer cods, and imo the best overall MP wise)

Not getting any COD games after the disgrace that was COD4.ampiva

honestly to be a true gamer, you have to try all games and stop crying about what a publisher does (although activision is like none i've seen before). movie enthusiast watch ALL films from the worst ones like twilight all the way up to shawshank redemption and memento because well, its still a film and its a new experience. if you think the price is too high then dont buy it at release. just because a previous version wasnt good that doesnt mean the next installment would be bad. i hated mw2 but i didnt regret my purchase i spent a good amount of hours in it and experienced some thing new even though it was awful and i learned more about what makes a game bad.

Will not be buy the expansion pack for MW2.SF_KiLLaMaN