***Official comeback from Ubisoft over DRM***

Ubi have come back with some answers....but I'm not satisfied.

Link

I suggest you post this in the official sticky.

Might be the worst DRM ever... good thing its for a game that im not interested in at all though (I find this series very overrated, playing part 2 on console didnt do much to change that for me).

Its hilarious how they think this will reduce piracy and bring them more sales.

People who would pirate this game wont buy it and will wait for some kind of crack (it will be , sooner or latter) and there will be part of people who would have bought the game , but now wont .

Well I'm not buying the game on princable, I feel like I am being treated like a criminal by Ubi for a game that I will buy! And if people buy the game and put up with this kinda crap it gives companies the OK to do what they like.

lol they said when the console version was released that the pc version had been delayed to give the pc gamers the best port possible.

BULL****!!! :D Crappy DRM

There should be some sort of physical real world object that comes with the game that u have to plug in to play that can't be bought seperately.

Each different type of game could have a unique one.

You wouldn't have to be connected to the internet then.

Not sure what problems that would bring i may not of thought it through but thats my idea :D

None of you people are allowed to buy Starcraft 2 then, it does the exact same with battle.net... ( why are people only going after ubi when someone else like blizzard is doing the same? )

Edit: Well it does have an offline mode you have to be signed on to save and access you're save games.

Brave New World

None of you people are allowed to buy Starcraft 2 then, it does the exact same with battle.net... ( why are people only going after ubi when someone else like blizzard is doing the same? )

Edit: Well it does have an offline mode you have to be signed on to save and access you're save games.

Super-Trooper

[QUOTE="Super-Trooper"]

None of you people are allowed to buy Starcraft 2 then, it does the exact same with battle.net... ( why are people only going after ubi when someone else like blizzard is doing the same? )

Edit: Well it does have an offline mode you have to be signed on to save and access you're save games.

DanielDust

And another reason people are going against Ubi is because it is a single player game ONLY. Why in the world should I have to be connected to the internet to play a game that in no way has anything to do with the internet?

i wonder if it will even work...

[QUOTE="Super-Trooper"]

None of you people are allowed to buy Starcraft 2 then, it does the exact same with battle.net... ( why are people only going after ubi when someone else like blizzard is doing the same? )

Edit: Well it does have an offline mode you have to be signed on to save and access you're save games.

DanielDust

Don't worry, just a Blizzard hater saying a lot of bull****.

StarCraft 2 was built from scratch to be an online experience, and you can play offline nevertheless. Playing online means you can store saved games on Blizzard's servers and access achievements, while playing offline forces you to use local saved games.

AC2 on the other hand is a single player experience, you have no reason to be connected to play it, and you can't play if you're offline, period.

Blizzard's new Battle.net system, launching later this year with StarCraft II, also requires an internet connection, although it does offer an offline mode that only allows you to log in as a guest. With Battle.net, you won't be able to earn achievements or access your save games and player records while offline.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

[QUOTE="Super-Trooper"]

None of you people are allowed to buy Starcraft 2 then, it does the exact same with battle.net... ( why are people only going after ubi when someone else like blizzard is doing the same? )

Edit: Well it does have an offline mode you have to be signed on to save and access you're save games.

Mograine

Don't worry, just a Blizzard hater saying a lot of bull****.

StarCraft 2 was built from scratch to be an online experience, and you can play offline nevertheless. Playing online means you can store saved games on Blizzard's servers and access achievements, while playing offline forces you to use local saved games.

AC2 on the other hand is a single player experience, you have no reason to be connected to play it, and you can't play if you're offline, period.

I'm done whining about DRM. It's sad that I have to play the game on Ubi's terms instead of my own, but I'll deal with it.

I am not the least bit angry with Ubisoft. I reserve all hatred for pirates.

[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="DanielDust"] Link, I mean official link? there is nothing official about local saves not working.

Super-Trooper

Don't worry, just a Blizzard hater saying a lot of bull****.

StarCraft 2 was built from scratch to be an online experience, and you can play offline nevertheless. Playing online means you can store saved games on Blizzard's servers and access achievements, while playing offline forces you to use local saved games.

AC2 on the other hand is a single player experience, you have no reason to be connected to play it, and you can't play if you're offline, period.

I'm done whining about DRM. It's sad that I have to play the game on Ubi's terms instead of my own, but I'll deal with it.

I am not the least bit angry with Ubisoft. I reserve all hatred for pirates.

dos4gw82

lol they said when the console version was released that the pc version had been delayed to give the pc gamers the best port possible.

BULL****!!! :D Crappy DRM

There should be some sort of physical real world object that comes with the game that u have to plug in to play that can't be bought seperately.

Each different type of game could have a unique one.

You wouldn't have to be connected to the internet then.

Not sure what problems that would bring i may not of thought it through but thats my idea :D

PcGamingRig

That is not every Blizzard pc game.Agent_Kaliaver

$100 says AC2'll will still be successfully pirated even with this new DRM, then Ubisoft will feel foolish when they see crappy sales ( not that they care for pc sales anyway ).

[QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"]That is not every Blizzard pc game.Super-Trooper

[QUOTE="Super-Trooper"]

[QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"]That is not every Blizzard pc game.Agent_Kaliaver

[QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"]

[QUOTE="Super-Trooper"]
To my knowledge you can't add War 1 / 2 and Diablo to a battle.net account..

Renevent42

once again, blizzard fanboys trimph with their mastering of double standard. bravo.

Jinroh_basic

Acting like two completely different DRM methods applied to two completely different games are the same, making random posts completely irrelevant to the topic such as "Why discuss about Ubisoft doing it? Let's blame Blizzard instead!" and accusing of double standards without having a clue of what you're talking about is surely the way to go, then.

@ST

Nevermind what I said.

[QUOTE="dos4gw82"]

I'm done whining about DRM. It's sad that I have to play the game on Ubi's terms instead of my own, but I'll deal with it.

I am not the least bit angry with Ubisoft. I reserve all hatred for pirates.

Agent_Kaliaver

Then guess what? those people are stupid, and only showing that they are, in fact, no better than the people there trying to act better against, and are only HELPING to make things worse.

fact.

Yes S_T I know that link, but it says nothing about saves being "only" available online and Eurogamer is not Blizz, I don't believe anything from their website, there are lots of cases where they post updates over updates over edits over etc with "sorry, not official", "sorry we were contacted by XYZ, not official", "we contacted XYZ and they said it's not true" and so on.

As I said, official link and I'm gonna assume you don't have any link that will send me on the Blizz/SC 2/Diablo 3 website.

I'm not a Blizz fanboy, I'm not jumping to conclusions, I just see all the facts that Blizzard presented, there are lots of rumors, like B.net having a monthly fee, is it true? no, it's all bull. So I suggest "you people" stop calling others fanboy out of pure blind hate, because you saw that some guy wrote on this forum or another that eurogamer said SC 2 will have no local saves (which they did not even state, actually they say nothing about B.net being exactly like the DRM for AC 2, why can't it be like L4D? oh wait, it really is like that) and now that automatically means all Blizz games will never have local saves just online save that you can't use unless you log in on B.net.

[QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"][QUOTE="dos4gw82"]

I'm done whining about DRM. It's sad that I have to play the game on Ubi's terms instead of my own, but I'll deal with it.

I am not the least bit angry with Ubisoft. I reserve all hatred for pirates.

warmaster670

Then guess what? those people are stupid, and only showing that they are, in fact, no better than the people there trying to act better against, and are only HELPING to make things worse.

fact.

So yeah this problem was caused by pirates so I can dislike them for that, but these companies are in no way helping the problem and making it far worse. And I dislike them far more than those starting pirates (or even the new ones).

And another reason people are going against Ubi is because it is a single player game ONLY. Why in the world should I have to be connected to the internet to play a game that in no way has anything to do with the internet?

Agent_Kaliaver

This is double standards. Steam works in the same way except you only need 1 connection; instead, the Ubisoft system is a constant check. I find no problem, since most of the people has currently constant Internet connection. I don't think that this is better for the legit player, but honestly it will not hurt the experience. I think that the only people that could be worried about are the pirates, since is only matter of time that all the publishers 8Valve with Steam, Blizzard with Battle.net 2.0, EA with his EA Manager and IW with his IWNET will use this kind of permanent protection.

The funny thing is... even if it did cut down on piracy and save them sales... i would think the amount of sales they'd lose by implementing this strict of DRM would far outweigh that. They really suck at economics.zomglolcats

The funny thing is... even if it did cut down on piracy and save them sales... i would think the amount of sales they'd lose by implementing this strict of DRM would far outweigh that. They really suck at economics.zomglolcats

Except that in the real world the internet forum goers anrt in the majority, most people probably dont even know or care about this.

[QUOTE="zomglolcats"]The funny thing is... even if it did cut down on piracy and save them sales... i would think the amount of sales they'd lose by implementing this strict of DRM would far outweigh that. They really suck at economics.DanielDust

The funny thing is... even if it did cut down on piracy and save them sales... i would think the amount of sales they'd lose by implementing this strict of DRM would far outweigh that. They really suck at economics.zomglolcats

this about only profit and control.... regulation..

people tend to get off on "power" devs/publishers are no different than presidents or dictators in that sense.

1. increase laws.. and regulation.... check

2. reduce privacy... check

3. reduction of off-line gaming/entertainment.... check

4. increasing the list of things you cannot travel with on public transportation... check

5. form ownership and copywrite expansion...... check.

6. remove laws hendering companies and businesses from donating or sponsoring on presidential campaigns... (for those of you who dont know what this means, it means that wal-mart, microsoft, and mcdonalds are gonna be the ones choosing our next president.... check

7. spreading "democracy" which has really yet to exist... check.

the list goes on and on... what happened to the free country??

it is unfortunate that we are being ushered into the new world order, its bad enough that the government is doing it, now we have these companies that are supposed to have "us" in mind, are doing it to us as well...

and this isnt even the first game like this. C&C4 is just like this. wtf

[QUOTE="zomglolcats"]The funny thing is... even if it did cut down on piracy and save them sales... i would think the amount of sales they'd lose by implementing this strict of DRM would far outweigh that. They really suck at economics.Renevent42

[QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"]

And another reason people are going against Ubi is because it is a single player game ONLY. Why in the world should I have to be connected to the internet to play a game that in no way has anything to do with the internet?

Ondoval

This is double standards. Steam works in the same way except you only need 1 connection; instead, the Ubisoft system is a constant check. I find no problem, since most of the people has currently constant Internet connection. I don't think that this is better for the legit player, but honestly it will not hurt the experience. I think that the only people that could be worried about are the pirates, since is only matter of time that all the publishers 8Valve with Steam, Blizzard with Battle.net 2.0, EA with his EA Manager and IW with his IWNET will use this kind of permanent protection.

this about only profit and control.... regulation..

people tend to get off on "power" devs/publishers are no different than presidents or dictators in that sense.

1. increase laws.. and regulation.... check

2. reduce privacy... check

3. reduction of off-line gaming/entertainment.... check

4. increasing the list of things you cannot travel with on public transportation... check

5. form ownership and copywrite expansion...... check.

6. remove laws hendering companies and businesses from donating or sponsoring on presidential campaigns... (for those of you who dont know what this means, it means that wal-mart, microsoft, and mcdonalds are gonna be the ones choosing our next president.... check

7. spreading "democracy" which has really yet to exist... check.

the list goes on and on... what happened to the free country??

it is unfortunate that we are being ushered into the new world order, its bad enough that the government is doing it, now we have these companies that are supposed to have "us" in mind, are doing it to us as well...

and this isnt even the first game like this. C&C4 is just like this. wtf

Lach0121

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

this about only profit and control.... regulation..

people tend to get off on "power" devs/publishers are no different than presidents or dictators in that sense.

1. increase laws.. and regulation.... check

2. reduce privacy... check

3. reduction of off-line gaming/entertainment.... check

4. increasing the list of things you cannot travel with on public transportation... check

5. form ownership and copywrite expansion...... check.

6. remove laws hendering companies and businesses from donating or sponsoring on presidential campaigns... (for those of you who dont know what this means, it means that wal-mart, microsoft, and mcdonalds are gonna be the ones choosing our next president.... check

7. spreading "democracy" which has really yet to exist... check.

the list goes on and on... what happened to the free country??

it is unfortunate that we are being ushered into the new world order, its bad enough that the government is doing it, now we have these companies that are supposed to have "us" in mind, are doing it to us as well...

and this isnt even the first game like this. C&C4 is just like this. wtf

Renevent42

And I am not anti-pirate because DRM to me has never truly made sense.Agent_Kaliaver

So you think stealing something is okay because you don't think the way a company prevents people for stealing their stuff makes sense?

Stealing out of spite is still stealing.

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="zomglolcats"]The funny thing is... even if it did cut down on piracy and save them sales... i would think the amount of sales they'd lose by implementing this strict of DRM would far outweigh that. They really suck at economics.zomglolcats

I do have to admit, I play WoW a lot, and the only time I ever have a problem is when the WoW servers have issues. I can't recall when if ever I had a problem with my internet connection. So, in reality, this form of DRM probably wouldn't affect me at all. Though I still am vehemently opposed to it. And it also raises the point that if there is fault with their servers, they will have some pretty serious backlash from consumers. If more and more companies push forward with this method however, this might be the only way to game on the PC in the future.

I could even see them having a class action lawsuit if their servers screw up.

[QUOTE="zomglolcats"]The funny thing is... even if it did cut down on piracy and save them sales... i would think the amount of sales they'd lose by implementing this strict of DRM would far outweigh that. They really suck at economics.DanielDust