IL-2 Sturmovik the best?

i really want some class of old air combat game and this looks like a winner, but you guys are the best judges so, is it a good game? does it run well on vista?

all responses are very much liked.

-czechgangster

I would also like to know. I would pick it up as it is only $20 for the 1946 version that has all 5 games, but I tried the demo and for some reason my joystick wouldn't work with it. It works fine with all my other sim and flying games.

Oh and CFS2 is a good WW2 flight sim, I like it alot. I think that and IL-2 Sturmovik are probably the best WW2 flight sims out there.

brokenrabbit, thank you sincerly for the indeth and proffesional insight. my father is a very adept flight sim user, playing the game X-plane, downloading real wheather and all, so i can get the equipment from him. czechgangster44

sorry if i seem nit picky, but the amauter system we have is a standard joystick, pedals, for right left rudder movment, and that where it ends. should that do? i don't think i'm aware of any other kind of simulation device available on the market.czechgangster44

okay. thank you, and i hope to have a just as good conversation with you some other time, over a different topic, goodbye, i'm retiring for the night to watch the big debate.

IL-2 is very good, but not without flaws. The single player campaigns are pretty repetative and oftentimes the missions don't make a lot of sense. They're randomly generated, so you might get 4 "fly to your new base" missions in a row. Sound is poor and the game feels kind of empty. In randomly generated missions, you might be ordered to stop a Soviet armoured attack. That attack invariably consists of 4 tanks rumbling along in a diamond formation. 4 tanks doesn't really convey the feeling of the mass combat on the eastern front.

Thankfully, there are a lot of great user-made scenarios and campaigns that do a much better job.

Multiplayer is really where the game shines. You will hear a lot of complaining about the game's flight models and the lack of moddability, but that's actually the game's strength. The fact that it's very hard to crack into the game code and mod it means the planes will feel the same on any server.

For me, it's a toss-up between IL-2 and Battle of Britain: Wings of Victory. IL-2 has much better flight models and a wider selection of aircraft but BoB:WoV has massive air battles with 300+ planes in the air and feels like a much more immersive experience. No multiplayer though and the flight model is a bit dodgy. On the plus side, the AI in BoB is fantastic. AI in IL-2 is predictible and it cheats.

Best Flight Sim Ever. Others can't even compare.

Random missions = Long Singleplayer (Huge replay value). Battlefield changes depending on how you do.

Active Multiplayer Base (use hyperlobby).

if i understand correctly there are no mods for this game? also to hit two topics with one comment, is Lock On: Modern Air Combat worth a try, i found it for a good value so i'm wondering if it makes ense to pick it up along with IL-2 Sturmovik.czechgangster44

There are lots of mods in the form of user made missions and aircraft skins, background screens, etc. However, the actual game code is lcoked so there are no mods which change the flight models, ballistics physics, damage modelling, and the like.

Its a great, great game but not for anyone who is remotely casual. If you want to appreciate it, buy a TrackIR and go online and learn just how bad you are at virtual flying. Seriously, the online learning curve is the steepest I have ever encountered. I've heard people say things like this about COD4, trust me there is no comparison.

I have purchased the game, and it's as definitly as good as you all say it was going to be. I have completly stayed away from the multiplayer because I realize the learing curve that exists, and in my busy schedual i favor a quick fragging in BF2, over a quick period of being licked by everyother ace in the community. Iguess it's something i gotta grow into, or wait until i have enough time for.

Now for one last question; Is their some site that has instructional videos or pictures+writing to explain the flight manuvers to unskilled twit like me? I understand the moves like the barrel role and and the corkscrew(the one used to slow down so that you don't over shoot a enemy aircraft) but i still seem to be geeting bested in a Mig, when fighting a few bi-planes. I will scoure You-Tube, but i think that it will only go skin deep, and i'm looking for a more militarily tried and try manual type anyway.

I know i keep dragging this discussion on and on, but everytime a new question pops into my head, so please bear with me.

-Peace

http://www.mission4today.com/index.php

http://www.airwarfare.com/phpBB2/index.php

Check this page and if you'll scroll down, you'll see 6 part series on tactics for flying in IL-2.

Best WW2 sim yes. Others are close but usually are missing the combined package that IL2 1946 offers.

Some of the other games do offer some amazing experiences and should be played also.(like BOB2)

Four years playing IL2 and it still teaches me something everytime I play.

There is also the UBI.com forums with links to great resources.

If you get hooked on it, there are some amazing things that can be done to improve your immersion into the game.

3rd Party programs for Instrument panel/gauges on a second monitor, Adjusting axis bands for your input devices,

Voice activation, touch screen....

There is also a vast assortment of missions that are designed by the public to assist in each step of learning.

For example: Learning take off - starting with a wide open field - then a shorter runway, then cluttered runway then finally the

aircraft carrier take off...

IL2 in-game setup will only accept four devices for inputs unless your use something like Saiteks(or other) macro software and bind keys.

I use Saiteks x52pro hotas, two throttle quadrents, pro flight pedals, command pad, TrackIR, A&B simpit with second monitor displaying gauges.

(TrackIR is probably the second most useful item besides a HOTAS. Also works with many non-flight games like Arma, Insurgency, Trackmania,

GTR series, and functions like key/mouse binds to head movements)

IL2 in-game setup will only accept four devices for inputs unless your use something like Saiteks(or other) macro software and bind keys.

I use Saiteks x52pro hotas, two throttle quadrents, pro flight pedals, command pad, TrackIR, A&B simpit with second monitor displaying gauges.

albertafox

Damn....Nice set up. How long does it take you to unhook yourself should you need to answer the phone or the door? I thought I was bad with the headphones, mic, and track IR.

NB, never answer the door with your trackIR hat and sensors still on. Tends to frighten the natives.

I'd say it's a fair trade. Once you've used a TrackIR, you'll wonder how the hell you were ever able to fly without one. Besides, they're very small and look almost like a webcam. Maybe she won't even notice....bogaty