Cataclysm and GT or SWTOR?

So Cataclysm is currently on sale on the Blizzard store for 20 buckaroos. Should I get that or should I just drop WoW for SWTOR? What's your opinion?

I personally see no point in continuing the bloated stat-race that is WoW anymore. After beta testing SWToR for two weekends, every other MMO I played couldn't hold my attention.

Yeah alright. I guess I will preorder SWTOR. I just wish I didn't waste the money on WoW lol. (Just got it about a month and a half ago). I hear SWTOR is much more enjoyable too. I did play it for a weekend but I stopped since I was gonna lose the character anyway lol.

There is really no point in joining WoW now. Guild Wars 2 and SWTOR will be the big MMO's next year.

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

Johnny_Rock

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SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

Inconsistancy

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

Johnny_Rock

I think I would recommend WoW at this moment under the condition that you are playing with friends and/or playing with people you enjoy. First time through Cataclysm is a blast and despite the WoW-hate I feel Blizzard did pretty well. However, if you do not have the buddies to tag along for the ride, I'd moreso suggest SWTOR. A fresh community and getting to experience SWTOR along with everyone else I think would be more fun. (Can't wait for next week!!)

I'm going to be honest here, when I played SWTOR I laughed and thought to myself «Is this the reason why everyone is so hyped?»

The game is as mediocre as it could be, plus it's about Sci-fi.. I prefer Fantasy like WoW with the dragons and suck..

But then, WoW is getting old and boring and repetitive so you might want to try SWTOR if you want. But if you have the idea that SWTOR is going to be better than WoW you can forget that.. they're two different games.

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

wis3boi

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

ionusX

It is not horrible, just uninspired and unremarkable. Still looks like an improvement over WoW in many ways, though that isnt saying a lot.

Though story certainly aint its strongest point, at this point it seems like Guild Wars has a better story than a lot of the stories in SWTOR. Unless you are one of those people who needs a good ego stroking (Jedi Knight), thinks that pac-man should have a story (Sith Inquisitor), like looking for ancient jedi artifacts (Jedi Consular), thinks a good villain kills people randomly (Sith Warrior) or always wanted to be shepard in a Star Wars setting (Republic Trooper).

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

Steameffekt

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

Johnny_Rock

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

Johnny_Rock

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

ZombiezLovePie

Though story certainly aint its strongest point, at this point it seems like Guild Wars has a better story than a lot of the stories in SWTOR.

Maroxad

Yes, well, I don't think many people will agree with you. I'd even go so far as to say that many eager Guild Wars 2 fans probably won't agree with you, but I'll try not to go there.

And "...certainly aint its strongest point, at this point..."? Bad sentence is bad.

I'm going to be honest here, when I played SWTOR I laughed and thought to myself «Is this the reason why everyone is so hyped?»

The game is as mediocre as it could be, plus it's about Sci-fi.. I prefer Fantasy like WoW with the dragons and suck..

tjricardo089

You... you prefer "Fantasy like WoW with the dragons and suck"? Well then, I guess I'll let you get to that right away.

Trust me, Cataclysm is a WAAAAAAY better game than SWToR. Don't get me wrong, Star Wars is a decent game, but it's a new release and needs a lot of refinement. The only real issue I have with Cataclysm is that the end-game is very easy. It's easier than the early raids in Vanilla. If you stand in Orgrimmar for about 30 mins you'll probably see the legendary staff event happening at least a couple of times.

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

Elann2008

Why limit yourself to two options when there are hundreds of mmorpgs you could be trying?

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Though story certainly aint its strongest point, at this point it seems like Guild Wars has a better story than a lot of the stories in SWTOR.

Jabby250

Yes, well, I don't think many people will agree with you. I'd even go so far as to say that many eager Guild Wars 2 fans probably won't agree with you, but I'll try not to go there.

And "...certainly aint its strongest point, at this point..."? Bad sentence is bad.

As I told you before on your other account, I dont care about my writing on internet forums. Neither do most people.

The biggest issue with SWTOR is how bad most of the stories in SWTOR are. A non-existant or simple story would be better than the disasters that are the Force sensitive stories. A few are good, like the imperial agent and the sith inquisitor (before it jumps the shark), but that isnt enough to make up for how bad most stories are.

P.S: Guild Wars has a bad story as well, so that says something about SWTOR's.

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

Johnny_Rock

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

K4ss3r

You believe wrong. The 750k was for unique users that only joined during the Thanksgiving beta phase.

Trust me, Cataclysm is a WAAAAAAY better game than SWToR. Don't get me wrong, Star Wars is a decent game, but it's a new release and needs a lot of refinement. The only real issue I have with Cataclysm is that the end-game is very easy. It's easier than the early raids in Vanilla. If you stand in Orgrimmar for about 30 mins you'll probably see the legendary staff event happening at least a couple of times.

-Unreal-

As I told you before on your other account, I dont care about my writing on internet forums. Neither do most people.

Maroxad

Heh, I'll give you that.

The biggest issue with SWTOR is how bad most of the stories in SWTOR are.

Maroxad

The biggest issue is that Obsidian's only good game was New Vegas, ever since they made Planescape: Torment (which wasn't that good to begin with) under the Black Isle brand name, and that their next 'big project' is a franchise offshoot product.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

As I told you before on your other account, I dont care about my writing on internet forums. Neither do most people.

Jabby250

Heh, I'll give you that.

The biggest issue with SWTOR is how bad most of the stories in SWTOR are.

Maroxad

The biggest issue is that Obsidian's only good game was New Vegas, ever since they made Planescape: Torment (which wasn't that good to begin with) under the Black Isle brand name, and that their next 'big project' is a franchise offshoot product.

Dont know what Obsidian has to do with this, but I disagree.

Mask of the Betrayer and KOTOR 2>Anything Bioware has ever done and will ever do.

Dont know what Obsidian has to do with this, but I disagree.

Mask of the Betrayer and KOTOR 2>Anything Bioware has ever done and will ever do.

Maroxad

The very sequels fans of the originals like to complain about, and refer to as 'broken'...

Trust me, Cataclysm is a WAAAAAAY better game than SWToR. Don't get me wrong, Star Wars is a decent game, but it's a new release and needs a lot of refinement. The only real issue I have with Cataclysm is that the end-game is very easy. It's easier than the early raids in Vanilla. If you stand in Orgrimmar for about 30 mins you'll probably see the legendary staff event happening at least a couple of times.

-Unreal-

yeah thats the problem Im having with the game right now, dragon soul is a comlete joke, doesnt even feel like a raid. I'll check back with WOW next expansion.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Dont know what Obsidian has to do with this, but I disagree.

Mask of the Betrayer and KOTOR 2>Anything Bioware has ever done and will ever do.

Jabby250

The very sequels fans of the originals like to complain about, and refer to as 'broken'...

The very sequels old school RPG fans consider superior and refer to as intelligent...

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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Dont know what Obsidian has to do with this, but I disagree.

Mask of the Betrayer and KOTOR 2>Anything Bioware has ever done and will ever do.

Maroxad

The very sequels fans of the originals like to complain about, and refer to as 'broken'...

The very sequels old school RPG fans consider superior and refer to as intelligent...

The very sequels mainstream critics deem inferior to their predecessors...

The first KotOR has won numerous awards, for both Game/RPG of the Year and story. Isn't it funny how KotOR II's 'superior' script hasn't won a single award from mainstream publications? Maybe they didn't think it was written by Chris Avellone!

And lol at 'old school RPG fans'. More like 'Black Isle fanboys'.

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Trust me, Cataclysm is a WAAAAAAY better game than SWToR. Don't get me wrong, Star Wars is a decent game, but it's a new release and needs a lot of refinement. The only real issue I have with Cataclysm is that the end-game is very easy. It's easier than the early raids in Vanilla. If you stand in Orgrimmar for about 30 mins you'll probably see the legendary staff event happening at least a couple of times.

Steameffekt

I believe they counted 750.000 unique log-ins. Not 1-2 million individual players. Oh, and if you'd talked to me at the time then you'd have met someone who wasn't impressed. ;)K4ss3r

For the record, I believe that they did advertise 2 million people playing in the beta overall. The "750,000 unique log-ins" referred to just the one particular stress test weekend.

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[QUOTE="Jabby250"]

The very sequels fans of the originals like to complain about, and refer to as 'broken'...

Jabby250

The very sequels old school RPG fans consider superior and refer to as intelligent...

The very sequels mainstream critics deem inferior to their predecessors...

The first KotOR has won numerous awards, for both Game/RPG of the Year and story. Isn't it funny how KotOR II's 'superior' script hasn't won a single award from mainstream publications? Maybe they didn't think it was written by Chris Avellone!

And lol at 'old school RPG fans'. More like 'Black Isle fanboys'.

The very critics that accept briberies, SWAGs, and give annual CoD rehashes 9s and 10s.

Black Isle fanboys? More like fans of Ultima, Wizardry, Gold Box, Might and Magic and the likes. Tell me in what way was KOTOR better Storywise than KOTOR 2 outside of the ending?

The characters were forgetable outside of Bastilla Shan and HK-47, the dialogue was awkward (especially the romance dialogue), the story lacked depth and wasnt particuary intelligent oh and that plot twist, one of thet worst plot twists ever. It was very predictable and once you "found out" about it nothing really changed, no new dialogue options, no nothing. It went back to business as usual. You do the exact same thing you did before, everyone views you the same, your character cannot make use of it, really, the writers could have removed it and the story could still be pretty much the exact same.

If you haven't played cataclysm get it. It's amazing.shakmaster13

Also, don't bother arguing with Maroxad. The guy thinks Shadow of the Collosus has one of the best stories in gaming history. That alone is enough to justify why anyone shouldn't bother arguing gaming stories with him.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]If you haven't played cataclysm get it. It's amazing.ZombiezLovePie

Also, don't bother arguing with Maroxad. The guy thinks Shadow of the Collosus has one of the best stories in gaming history. That alone is enough to justify why anyone shouldn't bother arguing gaming stories with him.

Also, don't bother arguing with Maroxad. The guy thinks Shadow of the Collosus has one of the best stories in gaming history. That alone is enough to justify why anyone shouldn't bother arguing gaming stories with him.

ZombiezLovePie

Oh boy.

I said SotC is one of the few tolerable stories in ACTION games, I probably wouldnt even put it on my top 50 when it comes to gaming stories for all genres. Btw, there is much more to SOTC's story than guy kills colossi. Here is a good story analysis in case you missed it earlier.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/924364-shadow-of-the-colossus/faqs/41817

Much better than any Bioware game. And for Bioware's other "strong" part choices... well, a game developed by Activision in 1986 has stronger Choices and Consequences than all Bioware games combined.

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[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]If you haven't played cataclysm get it. It's amazing.shakmaster13

Also, don't bother arguing with Maroxad. The guy thinks Shadow of the Collosus has one of the best stories in gaming history. That alone is enough to justify why anyone shouldn't bother arguing gaming stories with him.

Did you try contacting Blizzard? It shouldnt be too hard to restore your account.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="ZombiezLovePie"] Woah, didn't know the words 'Amazing' and 'Cataclysm' could coincide within the same sentence. That is, unless the word 'lackluster' is also there, while adding 'ly' behind 'Amazing'.

Also, don't bother arguing with Maroxad. The guy thinks Shadow of the Collosus has one of the best stories in gaming history. That alone is enough to justify why anyone shouldn't bother arguing gaming stories with him.

Maroxad

Did you try contacting Blizzard? It shouldnt be too hard to restore your account.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

Steameffekt

That doesn't seem like much of a sale and you know what a sale means. They are trying to get more customers since they have lost so many recently. But WoW is out of date anyways. After playing the Star Wars beta I am definitely choosing it. Played WoW for quite awhile until I quit early in the year, I just did not enjoy it as much. In a way I sort of felt late to the party. Which is a perfect reason to start a brand new mmo.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

SWTOR will fail miserably after all of the pre-orders realize the game is utter garbage.

Steameffekt

[QUOTE="Steameffekt"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Trust me, Cataclysm is a WAAAAAAY better game than SWToR. Don't get me wrong, Star Wars is a decent game, but it's a new release and needs a lot of refinement. The only real issue I have with Cataclysm is that the end-game is very easy. It's easier than the early raids in Vanilla. If you stand in Orgrimmar for about 30 mins you'll probably see the legendary staff event happening at least a couple of times.

shakmaster13

Yeah alright. I guess I will preorder SWTOR. I just wish I didn't waste the money on WoW lol. (Just got it about a month and a half ago). I hear SWTOR is much more enjoyable too. I did play it for a weekend but I stopped since I was gonna lose the character anyway lol.

seaninator54