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#51 BPoole96
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No you do need vsync no matter what the refresh rate. I had a 100hz CRT monitor and I still needed vsync on it.

Gambler_3

So it would lock the frame rate at 60Hz anyway? I couldn't make it so that it locks at 120 could it?

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#52 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

No you do need vsync no matter what the refresh rate. I had a 100hz CRT monitor and I still needed vsync on it.

BPoole96

So it would lock the frame rate at 60Hz anyway? I couldn't make it so that it locks at 120 could it?

Well if your GPU is giving 120+FPS then it will lock at 120 for sure. I was just saying that you still do need vsync.

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#53 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

No you do need vsync no matter what the refresh rate. I had a 100hz CRT monitor and I still needed vsync on it.

Gambler_3

So it would lock the frame rate at 60Hz anyway? I couldn't make it so that it locks at 120 could it?

Well if your GPU is giving 120+FPS then it will lock at 120 for sure. I was just saying that you still do need vsync.

Hmm, maybe it wouldn't be worth it for me then. I have 2 OC'd 6950s in Crossfire and without V Sync can usually get 90-100 frames per second on most games (some I get a lot more though. Maybe in a few years when I upgrade my GPUs I'll look into a 120Hz monitor

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#54 Gambler_3
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Hmm, maybe it wouldn't be worth it for me then. I have 2 OC'd 6950s in Crossfire and without V Sync can usually get 90-100 frames per second on most games (some I get a lot more though. Maybe in a few years when I upgrade my GPUs I'll look into a 120Hz monitor

BPoole96

I suppose with triple buffering you will be able to retain 90-100FPS with vsync and it wouldnt lock itself to 60FPS.

I personally cannot stand the viewing angles and screen uniformity of these 120Hz screens. I am waiting for new display tech to make some breakthrough, till then I am happy with my 60Hz IPS monitor.

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#55 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Hmm, maybe it wouldn't be worth it for me then. I have 2 OC'd 6950s in Crossfire and without V Sync can usually get 90-100 frames per second on most games (some I get a lot more though. Maybe in a few years when I upgrade my GPUs I'll look into a 120Hz monitor

Gambler_3

I suppose with triple buffering you will be able to retain 90-100FPS with vsync and it wouldnt lock itself to 60FPS.

I personally cannot stand the viewing angles and screen uniformity of these 120Hz screens. I am waiting for new display tech to make some breakthrough, till then I am happy with my 60Hz IPS monitor.

I might test my PC on my TV since my TV is 240Hz to see how that is. I'm curious if I notice a difference in picture quality (I am aware of the advantages monitors have over TVs for gaming though)

I currently have an Asus VW246H 1080p monitor that I have been more than happy with but I have wanted to play at a higher frame rate. It seems silly to me to be able to run games over 100FPS but constantly having to lock them at 60

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#56 JigglyWiggly_
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ehhh you guys should not enable vsync it causes input lag, and it's very noticible. some say triple buffering reduces input lag, I think it makes it worse.

Also there is n ovisual difference with vsync on or off at 120hz, i duno wat ur talking about

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#57 BPoole96
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ehhh you guys should not enable vsync it causes input lag, and it's very noticible. some say triple buffering reduces input lag, I think it makes it worse.

Also there is n ovisual difference with vsync on or off at 120hz, i duno wat ur talking about

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So if I am running a game at between 80-100FPS on a 120HZ monitor, I still won't get any screen tearing? I just need to make sure because screen tearing really bothers me

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#58 JigglyWiggly_
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I can't really answer that because I am not sure if screen tearing will always happen if you are not in multiple fps of your monitors refresh rate(but up to a certain point it won't be noticible probably around 100+fps)

It still looks fairly smoother 80-100fps, although when you are at 120+fps it's def smoother. When I play tribes ascend sometimes I dip to 100fps but I can't really tell.

Do note 80fps looks tremendously better than 80fps on a 60hz monitor.

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#59 BPoole96
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Yeah when I play games without Vsync the screen tearing is unbearable. I'm definitely going to look into some 120Hz monitors. Is that brand BenQ that was mentioned earlier supposed to be the best?

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#60 JigglyWiggly_
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yes

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#61 jack00
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ehhh you guys should not enable vsync it causes input lag, and it's very noticible. some say triple buffering reduces input lag, I think it makes it worse.

Also there is n ovisual difference with vsync on or off at 120hz, i duno wat ur talking about

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All that Vsync got me really confused, I never turn that thing on. Like everybody said there is noticeble screen tearing when I activate that thing. Anywho, I think I will order the BenQ in the next couple of weeks, wait for a few pay checks to come in first.
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#62 jack00
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Btw why I can't find the XL2420TX on either newegg.ca or .com, I only saw it on amazon.com and it sells for a whopping 800$ :s
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#63 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

ehhh you guys should not enable vsync it causes input lag, and it's very noticible. some say triple buffering reduces input lag, I think it makes it worse.

Also there is n ovisual difference with vsync on or off at 120hz, i duno wat ur talking about

jack00

All that Vsync got me really confused, I never turn that thing on. Like everybody said there is noticeble screen tearing when I activate that thing. Anywho, I think I will order the BenQ in the next couple of weeks, wait for a few pay checks to come in first.

Vsync doesn't cause screen tearing, it gets rid of it completely by locking your frame rate

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#64 Ghost_702
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I don't know what everyone is talking about vsync and it causing screen tearing and lag. I have a Dell U2410 and always enable vsync in games. Without it my screen tears and becomes choppy. With it enabled, it smoothes everything out and completely eliminates the tearing. Also, I have not once experience any sort of lag because of it and I've been gaming with it on for years. I use a 5870 by the way with all settings maxed out.

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#65 JigglyWiggly_
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I don't know what everyone is talking about vsync and it causing screen tearing and lag. I have a Dell U2410 and always enable vsync in games. Without it my screen tears and becomes choppy. With it enabled, it smoothes everything out and completely eliminates the tearing. Also, I have not once experience any sort of lag because of it and I've been gaming with it on for years. I use a 5870 by the way with all settings maxed out.

Ghost_702

that's because you are not a gamer

it's as simple as that

when i say gamer i mean fps

vsync's input lag is totally not acceptable to me, it feels like poop

to jack as to why you can't find them I am not sure. I have found difficulty finding a lot of 120hz monitors, even my asus.

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#66 BPoole96
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I might get this monitor

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#67 JigglyWiggly_
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looks like poop http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/electronics-gadgetry-reviews/10171-samsung-s23a700d-120hz-3d-monitor-review.html 10-11ms of input lag on that samsung according to that review my asus has 2-3ms of input lag and the samsung lags 7-8 behind it I've read reviews where mine has an avg of 8ms, and 4ms, so I don't know what it has. however it also is only 250 lumens, which is dark imo. I use the full 430 lumens of my asus : D
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#68 kraken2109
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I never use vsync. Most of my games don't tear. I remember far cry 2 did, but i'd rather have 80fps and occasional tearing than lower than 60fps with input lag.

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#69 JigglyWiggly_
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I never use vsync. Most of my games don't tear. I remember far cry 2 did, but i'd rather have 80fps and occasional tearing than lower than 60fps with input lag.

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enable vsync, you will notice it's quite a lot smoother. That's pretty much what almost 120hz looks like w/o vsync.
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#70 jack00
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Thanks for all the feedback jiggly, you know your stuff. I'm now saving up for the BenQXL2420TX. Hopefully i'll be able to get one within a month.

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#71 DevilMightCry
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I hate screen tearing. Vsync FTW.
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#72 kraken2109
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I never use vsync. Most of my games don't tear. I remember far cry 2 did, but i'd rather have 80fps and occasional tearing than lower than 60fps with input lag.

JigglyWiggly_
enable vsync, you will notice it's quite a lot smoother. That's pretty much what almost 120hz looks like w/o vsync.

I don't want input lag and under 60fps. 90% of the games i play don't tear anyway since they either run around 60fps or under, or way over 100 so it's too fast to notice.
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#73 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="kraken2109"]

I never use vsync. Most of my games don't tear. I remember far cry 2 did, but i'd rather have 80fps and occasional tearing than lower than 60fps with input lag.

kraken2109
enable vsync, you will notice it's quite a lot smoother. That's pretty much what almost 120hz looks like w/o vsync.

I don't want input lag and under 60fps. 90% of the games i play don't tear anyway since they either run around 60fps or under, or way over 100 so it's too fast to notice.

i mean enable it for 2 minutes