Any one else think we reached our limit on graphics?

After looking at crysis2 screenshots i dont see in the next year and up of graphics really geting better then that i know a lot of small details could get improved but unless the whole 3D glasses catch on i just cant see it geting higher then we are now.

I highly doubt it. The reason Crysis 2 didn't look so hot was probably because you were looking at console screens, or because Crytek downgraded the PC version since the game is multiplat. It definitely doesn't mean there won't be nicer looking games in the future.

Nope....

Blame consoles. :P

After looking at crysis2 screenshots i dont see in the next year and up of graphics really geting better then that i know a lot of small details could get improved but unless the whole 3D glasses catch on i just cant see it geting higher then we are now.

GOOCHIE247

About the 1800's someone said "everything that will be invented has been invented."

Nah, it will go to realism someday, next gen or next next gen will probably look somewhat like Avatar that movie

Graphics will never reach their limit until we achieve photorealism. DanielDust

There's no limit... Photorealism is only a small milestone. We're already very close to it.

Technical limits I probably don't think so, I think the limits for graphics are probably financial and time limits. It takes a lot of time and money to make these fancy smancy graphics we all coo after. Unfortunately the price tag of games can only support graphics up to a certain level so until they either a) find a way to do it cheaper or b) we accept higher prices I don't think there will be too much or a revolution in graphics even when the next lot of consoles hit.

PC's nope, current gen consoles, yep. People will continue to make small leaps in graphics and although it may not be as major as Crysis 2 will be (pc version not console) we will continue to get better and better.

Hopefully we will have the stuff from the move Gamer soon :D

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Graphics will never reach their limit until we achieve photorealism. Baranga

There's no limit... Photorealism is only a small milestone. We're already very close to it.

I personally do not care about photorealism, the static photorealism that has pretty lighting and high res textures, that's nothing compared to the "real" deal.

Hopefully we will have the stuff from the move Gamer soon :D

MEOWWW123

True :P when I saw those scenes with the HUD, I was like " What if @_@?".

No way, crysis proved that if you played it on a decent pc and screen. Physics, textures, resolutions and all that stuff still have a long ways to go imo.

After looking at crysis2 screenshots i dont see in the next year and up of graphics really geting better then that i know a lot of small details could get improved but unless the whole 3D glasses catch on i just cant see it geting higher then we are now.

GOOCHIE247

In ten years, we will have graphics we could never have imagined. Just you wait.

No way, crysis proved that if you played it on a decent pc and screen. Physics, textures, resolutions and all that stuff still have a long ways to go imo.

nooblet69

Consoles are the reason we are not like DX15 now. many devs are going multiplat therefore PC will get the same quality graphics as consoles.MrLions

I mean all games look better obviosly, resoluition and Anti-Aliasing are very important to the quality of the picture, but these games stand out.

I still believe that the firs crysis game will look better than crysis 2, yes i am talking about the pc version. They got to do massive graphic improvements on the pc version in order to make it look better than the first judging by the recent console screenshots......"massive" improvements.dakan45

[QUOTE="dakan45"]I still believe that the firs crysis game will look better than crysis 2, yes i am talking about the pc version. They got to do massive graphic improvements on the pc version in order to make it look better than the first judging by the recent console screenshots......"massive" improvements.DanielDust

Nope, we're probably talking about different tech demos, I'm talking about the one that presented 360 capabilities, some PS3 and a few PC features.DanielDust

I think it will be better to postpone this till we get more pc footage, this time not captured with a camera from a screen.

no look at avatars cgi games still have to reach that level there plenty of room for improvement in graphics.

Technically developers can already make games with pixar or dreamworks quality graphics, the problem is that there's no hardware that can handle that at the moment. The time will come though, I assure you.

Many of you are forgetting about GPU accelerated raytracing. That will be our limit because 3d renderings like those are essentially photo realistic.

for example take a look at Octane GPU acceleration. An image that originally would take 5+ miniutes to render one frame now renders instantly at 15fps average

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJbKh7bZFlo&feature=related

the following probably took 3 secs to render

Nope....

Blame consoles. :P

mkaliaz

One never knows: if developers start looking more closely at the 64-bit environment, you could be looking at the possibility of running a WRPG in 100% cinematic-quality graphics.

You definitely have a lot of room for expansion over the limitations of a 32-bit OS.

Capcom has already started it off with Devil May Cry 4, optimized for 64-bit and DX 10.

Next stage i guess is 3dwill become more popular and have controllers like the wii on pc.

Once raytracing in realtime becomes commonplace, there will be plenty of room for improvement, especially with increases in monitor resolutions as monitor resolution has the effect of course on diminishing returns of the virtual illusion. It's important to consider other things now outside of purely graphics, but game world orchestration and physics. Smoke and lightly weighted particles should be effected by the wind, water should be interactive, at least in terms of the surface such as fast fourier transformation, and objects should break apart/tear/etc. It's going to take alot more than what we have now to really see these things in combination, but we can enjoy them individually in specific games.

We still need extremely high poly foliage with equally high resolution textures for said foliage.

I highly doubt it. The reason Crysis 2 didn't look so hot was probably because you were looking at console screens, or because Crytek downgraded the PC version since the game is multiplat. It definitely doesn't mean there won't be nicer looking games in the future.

Mochyc

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Graphics will never reach their limit until we achieve photorealism. Baranga

There's no limit... Photorealism is only a small milestone. We're already very close to it.

After looking at crysis2 screenshots i dont see in the next year and up of graphics really geting better then that i know a lot of small details could get improved but unless the whole 3D glasses catch on i just cant see it geting higher then we are now.

GOOCHIE247

For PC?

HECK NO.

I thought that about F.E.A.R 5 years ago.

How wrong was I?

People probably thought things couldn't get better after Doom 3. But, they did.

For PC, if a developer wasn't afraid of making a 32 GB game or else is eincreidbleh at compressing, the graphics can get WAAAAAAY better.

Crysis 2 looks nowhere near as good, as, say, REAL LIFE. If a game ever looks as good as real life.... That's about when we can safely say: Nope, it ain't gonna get any better.

[technology always change and improves, once we'll reach top of graphics - the prices of GPUs will drop dramatecally PredatorRules

Guaranteed not. Todays problems will be solved by tommorows technology. Which is why it is a truism that everything that has been invented is all that can be invented at the time.

Also consoles aren't the only thing holding back progression.There are all the people who resist change like the XP fans who won't give up the ship. Developers can't just charge ahead.

After looking at crysis2 screenshots i dont see in the next year and up of graphics really geting better then that i know a lot of small details could get improved but unless the whole 3D glasses catch on i just cant see it geting higher then we are now.

GOOCHIE247

Not even close. When flight sims start looking like Crysis, maybe. But, not now.

The limit is when we have real life graphics in game. In other words you could see a leaf on a tree far far away while its moving in the wind. With a real physic engine and so on... And yes its a while to go before we can generate a entire would... Climb up on a tree and have every leaf have its own "animation" in the wind.