Alienware; best value for money as of now?????

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#1 wizzyman101
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In all seriousness', how can you disagree with this statement....heres an examlple the basic £649 x51 comes with a: nivida 555 (two 550 tis in sli, rivles 670!!!) i7 2700k edition 6gb ram good mobo good harddrive, etc, etc and a good case trust me i got this
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#2 wizzyman101
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oh and btw i mean best PREBUILT pcs i know you can get better i have pc with sli 6870s etc etc
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#3 MonsieurX
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Alienware always been overpriced,even for prebuilts.
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#4 MonsieurX
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Are you mad with the other thread,trying to prove how alienware is good? :lol:
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#5 WiiRocks66
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The 550 ti is a pathetic card. Two of them perform more like a 560 or 560ti. They don't come close to a 670. Also, OEM PCs use cheap, low quality components. You did not get good RAM or anything. You're either a troll, or someone who knows nothing about PCs.

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#6 wizzyman101
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ok find another predbuilt pc with under 649 squids with sli 550 tis go on i dare u
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#7 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="wizzyman101"]ok find another predbuilt pc with under 649 squids with sli 550 tis go on i dare u

gtx 555 is not 550ti sli.
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#8 ionusX
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the 550 series is also prone horribly to faliure. the number of those things that i here about flatlining is so high its a joke maybe 2-3 times a week. their power consumption is poor, they oc like @$$ and at their price range there is a multitude of better cards for cheaper that dont have ANY of their problems. finally the alienware x51 needs to be rma'd as a whle meaning higher fees if it brakes XD

the only thing good about the x51 is that fact that it doesnt explode or catch fire which has a pretty good chance of happening in the future as dell has signed deals with MSI for gaming chassis providing and their latest lineup all has a problem with literally catching fire XD

the x51 isnt only inefficient it might one day be a FIRE HAZARD

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explain to me how i run all games maxed out with aff and aa at 40 fps on a 22 inch monitor then hmmmmmmmmm talk to me
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#10 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="wizzyman101"]explain to me how i run all games maxed out with aff and aa at 40 fps on a 22 inch monitor then hmmmmmmmmm talk to me

:lol: You're a real pro!
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#11 Marfoo
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You know that's just marketing right? They put two weak graphics cards in SLI just so they can sell the idea that the computer has two graphics cards in it and it apparently it worked, you're thrilled even though that particular setup is weak. You'd be better off spending that money on a single card that's worth a damn.
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#12 wizzyman101
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="wizzyman101"]explain to me how i run all games maxed out with aff and aa at 40 fps on a 22 inch monitor then hmmmmmmmmm talk to me

:lol: You're a real pro!

if that aint sarcastic thanks!
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#13 wizzyman101
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You know that's just marketing right? They put two weak graphics cards in SLI just so they can sell the idea that the computer has two graphics cards in it and it apparently it worked, you're thrilled even though that particular setup is weak. You'd be better off spending that money on a single card that's worth a damn.Marfoo
i got this http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/335490-15-tomshardware read it now
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#14 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="wizzyman101"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="wizzyman101"]explain to me how i run all games maxed out with aff and aa at 40 fps on a 22 inch monitor then hmmmmmmmmm talk to me

:lol: You're a real pro!

if that aint sarcastic thanks!

I was. Should know that monitor size doesn't affect fps.
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#15 wizzyman101
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="wizzyman101"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] :lol: You're a real pro!

if that aint sarcastic thanks!

I was. Should know that monitor size doesn't affect fps.

erm yes it does. bigger monitor more megapixels on screen, more pixels more toll it takes on ram and gpu....so yeah, i know more than you
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#16 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="wizzyman101"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="wizzyman101"] if that aint sarcastic thanks!

I was. Should know that monitor size doesn't affect fps.

erm yes it does. bigger monitor more megapixels on screen, more pixels more toll it takes on ram and gpu....so yeah, i know more than you

Thanks for the laugh.
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="wizzyman101"]explain to me how i run all games maxed out with aff and aa at 40 fps on a 22 inch monitor then hmmmmmmmmm talk to mewizzyman101
:lol: You're a real pro!

if that aint sarcastic thanks!

wizzyman your going to become the loosingends of pc hardware jsut u wait. its going to be magnificent, i wont need to go to SW to get some lols and you get to continue being high on whatever drug your on

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#19 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"]You know that's just marketing right? They put two weak graphics cards in SLI just so they can sell the idea that the computer has two graphics cards in it and it apparently it worked, you're thrilled even though that particular setup is weak. You'd be better off spending that money on a single card that's worth a damn.wizzyman101
i got this http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/335490-15-tomshardware read it now

What's the point? The people on that forum came to the conclusion that two 550tis in SLI was a good idea if you already had one and could get a second for cheap. Buying a single equivalent GPU will always be the better idea when building from scratch with new parts.
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#20 Daanyal
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Thanks TC, got a good laugh out of this. :lol:

Anyway, instead of laughing at your pathetic knowledge of PC hardware, I'll try to educate you.

Firstly, monitor size doesn't matter. Resolution does.

Secondly, let's take your assumption that a GTX 550 Ti = GTX 555, and that it rivals a 670. Take a look at this. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/541?vs=598

The 670 demolishes the 550 Ti in every way. Even if a GTX 555 = 2x 550 Tis, it still wouldn't beat the 670.

Thirdly, Dell and Alienware are known for using cheapo, low quality parts. So your argument of good RAM, good mobo, and good hard drives, etc, is thrown out the window.

Fourthly, the X51 case seems to have horrible cooling performance, because Alienware went for looks and not performance, plus the SFF doesn't help things.

Fifthly, stop trying to justify your purchase of an Alienware X51. (which was a total ripoff) If you're happy, then shut up and play games on it. Don't try to justify your crappy purchase to a bunch of users on a forum who obviously know better than to buy an Alienware.

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#21 ionusX
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Thanks TC, got a good laugh out of this. :lol:

Anyway, instead of laughing at your pathetic knowledge of PC hardware, I'll try to educate you.

Firstly, monitor size doesn't matter. Resolution does.

Secondly, let's take your assumption that a GTX 550 Ti = GTX 555, and that it rivals a 670. Take a look at this. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/541?vs=598

The 670 demolishes the 550 Ti in every way. Even if a GTX 555 = 2x 550 Tis, it still wouldn't beat the 670.

Thirdly, Dell and Alienware are known for using cheapo, low quality parts. So your argument of good RAM, good mobo, and good hard drives, etc, is thrown out the window.

Fourthly, the X51 case seems to have horrible cooling performance, because Alienware went for looks and not performance, plus the SFF doesn't help things.

Fifthly, stop trying to justify your purchase of an Alienware X51. (which was a total ripoff) If you're happy, then shut up and play games on it. Don't try to justify your crappy purchase to a bunch of users on a forum who obviously know better than to buy an Alienware.

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wizzyman just got DROPPED

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#25 slipknot0129
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The x51 is a good value. I always thought Alienwares were like double the price of a pre-built. I payed maybe 10-15 percent more for the Alienware name on the x51. Its a reasonable price for the convenience and look of it.

People try to justify having a ugly monstrocity of a gaming computer by saying its cheaper. I laugh because I buy stuff I like, not whats the cheapest.

All other computers besides the x51 are ugly to me.

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#26 Sturmfuehrer_
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Alienware has never been good value for money. It has always been overpriced poo.

The X51 is no different. Good CPU ruined by mediocre board, GPU and other cheap bits, with a silly price tag.

I'd lvoe to see some proof that the TC's playing recent games like BF3 in ultra settings with 40 FPS on that thing.

It's an overpriced media server at best.

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#27 ionusX
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Alienware has never been good value for money. It has always been overpriced poo.

The X51 is no different. Good CPU ruined by mediocre board, GPU and other cheap bits, with a silly price tag.

I'd lvoe to see some proof that the TC's playing recent games like BF3 in ultra settings with 40 FPS on that thing.

It's an overpriced media server at best.

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[QUOTE="wizzyman101"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] :lol: You're a real pro!ionusX

if that aint sarcastic thanks!

wizzyman your going to become the loosingends of pc hardware jsut u wait. its going to be magnificent, i wont need to go to SW to get some lols and you get to continue being high on whatever drug your on

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The x51 is a good value. I always thought Alienwares were like double the price of a pre-built. I payed maybe 10-15 percent more for the Alienware name on the x51. Its a reasonable price for the convenience and look of it.

People try to justify having a ugly monstrocity of a gaming computer by saying its cheaper. I laugh because I buy stuff I like, not whats the cheapest.

All other computers besides the x51 are ugly to me.

slipknot0129

lmao i have a feeling slipknot and wizzy are actually the same person ??:?

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#31 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

The x51 is a good value. I always thought Alienwares were like double the price of a pre-built. I payed maybe 10-15 percent more for the Alienware name on the x51. Its a reasonable price for the convenience and look of it.

People try to justify having a ugly monstrocity of a gaming computer by saying its cheaper. I laugh because I buy stuff I like, not whats the cheapest.

All other computers besides the x51 are ugly to me.

blaznwiipspman1

lmao i have a feeling slipknot and wizzy are actually the same person ??:?

Nope, we are different people.

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#32 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

The x51 is a good value. I always thought Alienwares were like double the price of a pre-built. I payed maybe 10-15 percent more for the Alienware name on the x51. Its a reasonable price for the convenience and look of it.

People try to justify having a ugly monstrocity of a gaming computer by saying its cheaper. I laugh because I buy stuff I like, not whats the cheapest.

All other computers besides the x51 are ugly to me.

slipknot0129

lmao i have a feeling slipknot and wizzy are actually the same person ??:?

Nope, we are different people.

Oh god, you mean your type is actually spreading?
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#33 djdarkforces
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hahaha couldnt help but lmao reading thro this thread

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#34 wizzyman101
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

The x51 is a good value. I always thought Alienwares were like double the price of a pre-built. I payed maybe 10-15 percent more for the Alienware name on the x51. Its a reasonable price for the convenience and look of it.

People try to justify having a ugly monstrocity of a gaming computer by saying its cheaper. I laugh because I buy stuff I like, not whats the cheapest.

All other computers besides the x51 are ugly to me.

slipknot0129

lmao i have a feeling slipknot and wizzy are actually the same person ??:?

Nope, we are different people.

hey guys back from school. it was good anywyas you people ar eidiots, i work at grainger games and i know more than you
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#35 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

lmao i have a feeling slipknot and wizzy are actually the same person ??:?

wizzyman101

Nope, we are different people.

hey guys back from school. it was good anywyas you people ar eidiots, i work at grainger games and i know more than you

Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Many of the regular posters here, including myself, have built dozens of systems and work technical computer software/hardware related jobs for years, jobs that require hardware/software understanding at much more fundamental and enlightening level. If you bought the X51 for the aesthetics or form factor, fine. You can't argue that the hardware is anything special though, it's not, and dozens of posts on previous pages have pointed that out. The evidence makes a case for itself.
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#36 wizzyman101
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[QUOTE="wizzyman101"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Nope, we are different people.Marfoo
hey guys back from school. it was good anywyas you people ar eidiots, i work at grainger games and i know more than you

Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Many of the regular posters here, including myself, have built dozens of systems and work technical computer software/hardware related jobs for years, jobs that require hardware/software understanding at much more fundamental and enlightening level. If you bought the X51 for the aesthetics or form factor, fine. You can't argue that the hardware is anything special though, it's not, and dozens of posts on previous pages have pointed that out. The evidence makes a case for itself.

erm crossifre 500 tis i7 for under 650 squids talk to me
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#37 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="wizzyman101"] hey guys back from school. it was good anywyas you people ar eidiots, i work at grainger games and i know more than youwizzyman101
Let's see the link to that price? Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Many of the regular posters here, including myself, have built dozens of systems and work technical computer software/hardware related jobs for years, jobs that require hardware/software understanding at much more fundamental and enlightening level. If you bought the X51 for the aesthetics or form factor, fine. You can't argue that the hardware is anything special though, it's not, and dozens of posts on previous pages have pointed that out. The evidence makes a case for itself.

erm crossifre 500 tis i7 for under 650 squids talk to me

Let's see the link to that price.

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#38 ionusX
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yeah wizzy is an alt but still FoS

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#39 wizzyman101
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yeah wizzy is an alt but still FoS

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is this a good monitor ion and how do i insert pics im not an alt, tho http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-S240HLbid-widescreen-monitor-Backlight/dp/B005QVZ79C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341588600&sr=8-1
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#40 adamosmaki
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Okay once and for all gtx 555 does not equal 2x550ti"s ( even if that was the case 550ti's are a far cry from gtx 670 performace

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-555-oem/specifications

Here are the specs of the OEM gtx 555. Basically its a gtx 460SE with somewhat higher clocks but narrower memory bandwidth . Basically a card that its 10-15% slower than a gtx 460

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#41 wizzyman101
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1. geforce is not a legit website 2. answer to my query above
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#42 Marfoo
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1. geforce is not a legit website 2. answer to my query abovewizzyman101

1. GeForce is not a legit website? Are you freaking kidding me?

Also, better performance for under £650.00 isn't too hard. This system would be quite a bit faster than x51 in the config you mentioned. And by the way, the config you mentioned at 650 squids is actually this:

  • Core i3 2120
  • Geforce GT 545
  • 4GB RAM

So not only does the system I just configured beat your x51, it completely destroys it.

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#43 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="wizzyman101"]1. geforce is not a legit website 2. answer to my query above

Sure an nvidia site is not legit and you think you are ? I would really love to see you try playing BF3 at 1080p and ultra on that card
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#44 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="wizzyman101"]1. geforce is not a legit website 2. answer to my query above

Sure an nvidia site is not legit and you think you are ? I would really love to see you try playing BF3 at 1080p and ultra on that card

Seriously wizzyman, stay the hell off our forums if that's the kind info you're going to be throwing around. We aim to help people with GOOD advice on this forum and not misnformation and BS like you like to throw around.
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="wizzyman101"]1. geforce is not a legit website 2. answer to my query above

Sure an nvidia site is not legit and you think you are ? I would really love to see you try playing BF3 at 1080p and ultra on that card

Seriously wizzyman, stay the hell off our forums if that's the kind info you're going to be throwing around. We aim to help people with GOOD advice on this forum and not misnformation and BS like you like to throw around.

ok mind helping me?? Is that monitor i mentioned any good ok i got confused about geforce you see i am from packistan
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[QUOTE="wizzyman101"][QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="wizzyman101"] hey guys back from school. it was good anywyas you people ar eidiots, i work at grainger games and i know more than you

Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Many of the regular posters here, including myself, have built dozens of systems and work technical computer software/hardware related jobs for years, jobs that require hardware/software understanding at much more fundamental and enlightening level. If you bought the X51 for the aesthetics or form factor, fine. You can't argue that the hardware is anything special though, it's not, and dozens of posts on previous pages have pointed that out. The evidence makes a case for itself.

erm crossifre 500 tis i7 for under 650 squids talk to me

650 squids? thats a lot of squid
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#47 ionusX
Member since 2009 • 25777 Posts

[QUOTE="wizzyman101"][QUOTE="Marfoo"] Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Many of the regular posters here, including myself, have built dozens of systems and work technical computer software/hardware related jobs for years, jobs that require hardware/software understanding at much more fundamental and enlightening level. If you bought the X51 for the aesthetics or form factor, fine. You can't argue that the hardware is anything special though, it's not, and dozens of posts on previous pages have pointed that out. The evidence makes a case for itself.Elitemajik
erm crossifre 500 tis i7 for under 650 squids talk to me

650 squids? thats a lot of squid

i lolled

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#48 wizzyman101
Member since 2012 • 76 Posts
[QUOTE="Elitemajik"][QUOTE="wizzyman101"][QUOTE="Marfoo"] Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Many of the regular posters here, including myself, have built dozens of systems and work technical computer software/hardware related jobs for years, jobs that require hardware/software understanding at much more fundamental and enlightening level. If you bought the X51 for the aesthetics or form factor, fine. You can't argue that the hardware is anything special though, it's not, and dozens of posts on previous pages have pointed that out. The evidence makes a case for itself.

erm crossifre 500 tis i7 for under 650 squids talk to me

650 squids? thats a lot of squid

obvious yank is obvious now ionusx ANSWER MY DAMN MONITOR QUEATION
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#49 NailedGR
Member since 2010 • 997 Posts

[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="adamosmaki"] Sure an nvidia site is not legit and you think you are ? I would really love to see you try playing BF3 at 1080p and ultra on that card wizzyman101
Seriously wizzyman, stay the hell off our forums if that's the kind info you're going to be throwing around. We aim to help people with GOOD advice on this forum and not misnformation and BS like you like to throw around.

ok mind helping me?? Is that monitor i mentioned any good ok i got confused about geforce you see i am from packistan

>I am from packistan

>Mispell pakistan

gb2/g/ Have fun with all your neckbear friends there

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#50 Marfoo
Member since 2004 • 6002 Posts

[QUOTE="wizzyman101"][QUOTE="Marfoo"] Seriously wizzyman, stay the hell off our forums if that's the kind info you're going to be throwing around. We aim to help people with GOOD advice on this forum and not misnformation and BS like you like to throw around.NailedGR

ok mind helping me?? Is that monitor i mentioned any good ok i got confused about geforce you see i am from packistan

>I am from packistan

>Mispell pakistan

The same guy who was calling people yanks when someone made a joke about using the word "squids" when talking about money.