Absolutely no point in having a super-awsome graphics card at the moment?

Hi, I was just wondering if there are a lot of people out there that are updating their graphics cards at the moment. If so, why? And this is totally coming from a guy who is self proclaimed eye-candy whore.

Here's my philosophy: You have 2 types of games: Unreal Engine 3 games and Crysis. An 8800 GT is already going to handle any Unreal Engine 3 game absolutely beautifully. Crysis? Not so much... But will a 9800GTX or even the next 280GTX (or whatever it's called) handle Crysis that much better? Sorry, but I'm not going to plunk down an extra $400 and go SLI crazy just so I can get an extra 10 frames on Crysis.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm not going to even be looking at new cards until there's a commercial card out there that maxes Crysis on 1600x1200 at 60fps. Looking back, there were legitimate reasons to update to the 8800GTX. But at the moment, I just don't see anything on the horizon that's worth updating my PC. Whatever comes out in the next 8 months, I will still be woefully unsatisfied with my Crysis experience and my 8800GT is already more than enough for all the other games.

For me, the PC hardware business is looking pretty barren for me until the next 2 years or so.

I wouldn't say there's no point but i mean with Nvidia u've got the 8800's and the 9800's with just like 5 frames more than the 8800 series if we're talking crysis and with ATI we've got the 3870 HD which is again powerful but im waiting for the next series of cards coming around xmas time when im building my new rig its gnna be sweet!!!:D

these are the specs:-

XFX 790i Ultra SLi 3 Way SLI (Socket 775) DDR3 PCI-E ATX Motherboard


Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz 'Yorkfield' 12MB Cache LGA775 (1333 Mhz) - w/ Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

Corsair Twin3X 2GB DDR3 (2x1024MB) TWIN3X2048-1333C9DHX PC3-10600 (1333Mhz) Dual Channel Kit

Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W Modular Black PSU SLI Ready nVidia Approved

Jeantech Aqua Midi ATX Gaming case, includes 1 x 120mm fan and mounts for x6 fans, Blue LED door and screwless. No PSU

EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB GDDR3 DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E Graphics Card with Crysis game (so Far but will be getting next series instead.)

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit

IT's Nvidia SLI based rather than ATI Crossfire.

will be going quad sli after the build.

But people wait for the next series of both Nvidia and ATI as we're coming near to the end of the year!!!

PSN: GDI_SoLdIeR_94

playing Cod4,Vegas2 and GT5 Prologue

The GTX 280 will most likely dominate Crysis.

From a layman's point of view, it's basically a doubled up G92 in all senses of the word. Not to mention that NVIDIA has most likely tweaked some issues in G80/G92 such as memory bandwidth inefficiencies, geometry processing inefficiencies and etc.

I wouldn't say there's no point but i mean with Nvidia u've got the 8800's and the 9800's with just like 5 frames more than the 8800 series if we're talking crysis and with ATI we've got the 3870 HD which is again powerful but im waiting for the next series of cards coming around xmas time when im building my new rig its gnna be sweet!!!:D

these are the specs:-

XFX 790i Ultra SLi 3 Way SLI (Socket 775) DDR3 PCI-E ATX Motherboard


Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz 'Yorkfield' 12MB Cache LGA775 (1333 Mhz) - w/ Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

Corsair Twin3X 2GB DDR3 (2x1024MB) TWIN3X2048-1333C9DHX PC3-10600 (1333Mhz) Dual Channel Kit

Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W Modular Black PSU SLI Ready nVidia Approved

Jeantech Aqua Midi ATX Gaming case, includes 1 x 120mm fan and mounts for x6 fans, Blue LED door and screwless. No PSU

EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB GDDR3 DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E Graphics Card with Crysis game (so Far but will be getting next series instead.)

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit

IT's Nvidia SLI based rather than ATI Crossfire.

will be going quad sli after the build.

But people wait for the next series of both Nvidia and ATI as we're coming near to the end of the year!!!

PSN: GDI_SoLdIeR_94

playing Cod4,Vegas2 and GT5 Prologue

GDI_SOLDIER_94

That rig is totally out of balance.

You've got a nuclear reactor powering a 120w card, DDR3 burning your cash and a case that's going to choke your system.

EDIT: I think it's time everyone moved onto 64 bit comptuing.

I agree, a midend-Card are powerful enough to run most games with near max settings (ofc., left crysis out), there is no reason to fench the ûber card just yet, crysis look fine enough on high = saving 200dollars!

Game-development are not up to todays hardware, the GFX cards evolve much faster than game-development put out games stressing the hardware.

For gaming there is really no need for a faster CPU than 3Ghz either (Dual Core's & Quad's)

Perhaps games soon will pic up the falling-behind as there are a few titles on the way.. (Alan wake, FarCry2)

I want more than 1-3games able to put a "Medium-gaming rig" on the stress.

[QUOTE="GDI_SOLDIER_94"]

I wouldn't say there's no point but i mean with Nvidia u've got the 8800's and the 9800's with just like 5 frames more than the 8800 series if we're talking crysis and with ATI we've got the 3870 HD which is again powerful but im waiting for the next series of cards coming around xmas time when im building my new rig its gnna be sweet!!!:D

these are the specs:-

XFX 790i Ultra SLi 3 Way SLI (Socket 775) DDR3 PCI-E ATX Motherboard


Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz 'Yorkfield' 12MB Cache LGA775 (1333 Mhz) - w/ Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

Corsair Twin3X 2GB DDR3 (2x1024MB) TWIN3X2048-1333C9DHX PC3-10600 (1333Mhz) Dual Channel Kit

Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W Modular Black PSU SLI Ready nVidia Approved

Jeantech Aqua Midi ATX Gaming case, includes 1 x 120mm fan and mounts for x6 fans, Blue LED door and screwless. No PSU

EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB GDDR3 DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E Graphics Card with Crysis game (so Far but will be getting next series instead.)

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit

IT's Nvidia SLI based rather than ATI Crossfire.

will be going quad sli after the build.

But people wait for the next series of both Nvidia and ATI as we're coming near to the end of the year!!!

PSN: GDI_SoLdIeR_94

playing Cod4,Vegas2 and GT5 Prologue

Wesker776

That rig is totally out of balance.

You've got a nuclear reactor powering a 120w card, DDR3 burning your cash and a case that's going to choke your system.

EDIT: I think it's time everyone moved onto 64 bit comptuing.

:lol: sooooo true, and yeah ddr3 has no value at all.

[QUOTE="GDI_SOLDIER_94"]

I wouldn't say there's no point but i mean with Nvidia u've got the 8800's and the 9800's with just like 5 frames more than the 8800 series if we're talking crysis and with ATI we've got the 3870 HD which is again powerful but im waiting for the next series of cards coming around xmas time when im building my new rig its gnna be sweet!!!:D

these are the specs:-

XFX 790i Ultra SLi 3 Way SLI (Socket 775) DDR3 PCI-E ATX Motherboard


Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz 'Yorkfield' 12MB Cache LGA775 (1333 Mhz) - w/ Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

Corsair Twin3X 2GB DDR3 (2x1024MB) TWIN3X2048-1333C9DHX PC3-10600 (1333Mhz) Dual Channel Kit

Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W Modular Black PSU SLI Ready nVidia Approved

Jeantech Aqua Midi ATX Gaming case, includes 1 x 120mm fan and mounts for x6 fans, Blue LED door and screwless. No PSU

EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB GDDR3 DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E Graphics Card with Crysis game (so Far but will be getting next series instead.)

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit

IT's Nvidia SLI based rather than ATI Crossfire.

will be going quad sli after the build.

But people wait for the next series of both Nvidia and ATI as we're coming near to the end of the year!!!

PSN: GDI_SoLdIeR_94

playing Cod4,Vegas2 and GT5 Prologue

Wesker776

That rig is totally out of balance.

You've got a nuclear reactor powering a 120w card, DDR3 burning your cash and a case that's going to choke your system.

EDIT: I think it's time everyone moved onto 64 bit comptuing.

While DDR3 maybe a waste,it's kind of a situation where there is no choice.790i almost completely destroys the 780i and is definitely as good as intel chipsets or even better from what I have seen.So if you want SLI with a really fantastic chipset then DDR3 is just an obligatory cost for it right now.:)

THANKYOU U SPYBOT_9

christ people im building a system thats going to be absolutely Future proof for gaming and spybot_9 is right what i was saying was that the 8800GT is a filler card for me and will be going with 2x280's in sli and wrong case soz i meant the : Antec 900

and DDR3 as spybot_9 practically stated again if i want summin future proof i need DDr3 especially with the 790i and i went for the 790i because it wont bottleneck any of my other hardware and has true pci-e2.0 in 2 of the 3 pci-e slots.

So also im gnna need that "nuclear reactor" of a psu for quad sli and the future cpu's maybe c'mon people think about it before u attack me plz lol

im also thinking of liquid cooling it but if not ill just go with alot of quiet fans (b ut the antec 900 is pretty cool anyway)

THANKYOU U SPYBOT_9

christ people im building a system thats going to be absolutely Future proof for gaming and spybot_9 is right what i was saying was that the 8800GT is a filler card for me and will be going with 2x280's in sli and wrong case soz i meant the : Antec 900

and DDR3 as spybot_9 practically stated again if i want summin future proof i need DDr3 especially with the 790i and i went for the 790i because it wont bottleneck any of my other hardware and has true pci-e2.0 in 2 of the 3 pci-e slots.

So also im gnna need that "nuclear reactor" of a psu for quad sli and the future cpu's maybe c'mon people think about it before u attack me plz lol

im also thinking of liquid cooling it but if not ill just go with alot of quiet fans (b ut the antec 900 is pretty cool anyway)

GDI_SOLDIER_94

History has shown us that there is not true future proof system.

By xmas you should be grabbing a LGA1336 mobo ready for nehalem (880/890i?), instead of the 790i.

Better try to build your PC by xmas because there will be tons of things you will like to change.

I would go with this case for your setup. Better cooling, air circulation with all those cards, and more room for your liquid cooling.

Only con is that it is like 50lbs.

Your antec nine hundred is probably fine but i hear the 200mm fan is super brittle.

yeh i expect to be changing alot of stuff on my specs for xmas but thanks for the tip anyway:)

dunno about that LGA1336 mobo though cos tons of people are calling it differnt stuff and people say that all the time but i dont expect they'll change it from LGA775 anytime soon but yeh i guess you never know u could be right

GDI_soldier:

You mentioned future proof?

If you really want future proof you just need to wait foreva before you go buy computer hardware...

As your intended rig is not able to change to the later-on released nahalem CPU's you are on the edge of what great CPU you can use in your rig.

If we imagine there is a build that actually are just a little-bit futureproof it would not be on a soon outdated LGA775 board, it would be on the soon to be released nahalem-socket.

Acually I suggest you wait and save up to the "next-big-deal" instead of trying to "futureproof" on an already "old" socket.

(well the board is fine but it cannot most likly be upgraded to a much faster CPU later on.)

We have no idea of how well performing the new GFX and CPU's (ATI's HD48xx/nvidia' GT2xx series/Nahalem.. ) are but the current hardware are quite old, (as PC old..) mostly just refined and up-hotted old core arkitecture, we (me anyway) hope the next productlines bring us some "new".

This migth sound like a whole lot of mambo-jambo but if I were you and were trying to build a xtreme gaming rig I would wait to find out what's just around the corner, even if i maybe ended up buildig the exact same rig that you intended for in the first place the prices would be totaly diffrent by then.

But what do I acually know? It's your money, and the conclution are your's to make, if you buy all that and update with the "next" GFX series you will have a fine rig for sure!, but future proof? :nahh..

I've taken on board all of your comments and have come to the conclusion that i'll be waiting for the new intel nehalem compatible motherboards (will most likely get the next nvidia board) and as i new already i will be getting the next nvidia series card after i read some reviews on it and the nehalem cpu's.:idea:

But will still go with my "nuclear reactor" of a psu still and most other parts

but gonna keep hunting for new case ideas as i do most days lol:)

Thanks guys.:D

History has shown us that there is not true future proof system.By xmas you should be grabbing a LGA1336 mobo ready for nehalem (880/890i?), instead of the 790i. Better try to build your PC by xmas because there will be tons of things you will like to change. wklzip

I've taken on board all of your comments and have come to the conclusion that i'll be waiting for the new intel nehalem compatible motherboards (will most likely get the next nvidia board) and as i new already i will be getting the next nvidia series card after i read some reviews on it and the nehalem cpu's.:idea:

But will still go with my "nuclear reactor" of a psu still and most other parts

but gonna keep hunting for new case ideas as i do most days lol:)

Thanks guys.:D

GDI_SOLDIER_94

I wouldn't bet my money on us seeing an NVIDIA Nehalem motherboard. Intel could very well reject NVIDIA's access to a QuickPath license, for not allowing Intel chipsets to run SLI.

That's the worst case scenario, though.

nForce chipsets are a hazard anyway, IMHO. There have been countless reports of users experiencing HDD corruption of nForce chipsets, through from nForce 4 to nForce 790i.

Hi, I was just wondering if there are a lot of people out there that are updating their graphics cards at the moment. If so, why? And this is totally coming from a guy who is self proclaimed eye-candy whore.

Here's my philosophy: You have 2 types of games: Unreal Engine 3 games and Crysis. An 8800 GT is already going to handle any Unreal Engine 3 game absolutely beautifully. Crysis? Not so much... But will a 9800GTX or even the next 280GTX (or whatever it's called) handle Crysis that much better? Sorry, but I'm not going to plunk down an extra $400 and go SLI crazy just so I can get an extra 10 frames on Crysis.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm not going to even be looking at new cards until there's a commercial card out there that maxes Crysis on 1600x1200 at 60fps. Looking back, there were legitimate reasons to update to the 8800GTX. But at the moment, I just don't see anything on the horizon that's worth updating my PC. Whatever comes out in the next 8 months, I will still be woefully unsatisfied with my Crysis experience and my 8800GT is already more than enough for all the other games.

For me, the PC hardware business is looking pretty barren for me until the next 2 years or so.

phan1