Worth moving from GTX 570 to AMD 7950

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#1 Posted by tolkiennutt (295 posts) -

Im kind of disappointed in GTX 570 performance with DX11 games. I got a couple gift cards for Micro center thinking about upgrading to Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950. Ive heard nothing but good things about this card. Ive also read the performance boost will be any where from 30-50% faster depending on the game. My MB has PCI 3.0 express and supports Crossfire. This will give good upgrade options for later down the road. Ive havent used a Radeon (ATI) card in years, so this is new territory for me. Thoughts?

#2 Posted by Postmortem123 (7711 posts) -

Overclock the hell out of it and have fun.#

The 570 is still a good card though - what games is it struggling on?

#3 Posted by tolkiennutt (295 posts) -

Batman AC and Deus cant use em in DX11. Major FPS drops! I also just download Metro (great buy $4.99)

#4 Posted by Postmortem123 (7711 posts) -

http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/M/304546/original/AA%201080.png

You should be getting ~90fps on Deus Ex.

DX11 on Batman is broken.

#5 Posted by tolkiennutt (295 posts) -

I haven't played Deus in long time.. Probably just needs an update. I'm defiantly going to get Dishonored when it comes out. At this point I just mainly need to know is upgrade worth it? Is the GTX 570 going to be pretty obsolete in another 6 months? I'm better off just waiting?

#6 Posted by id_mew (472 posts) -

I had a gtx 570 and I was maxing out Deus Ex no problem, something is wrong with your drivers.

and I don't think it's worth upgrading yet, the 570 is still an amazing card.

Wait until the 700 series come out, than you'll see a big jump.

#7 Posted by Postmortem123 (7711 posts) -

I'd say just wait for next gen, and I wouldn't worry about Dishonoured.

#8 Posted by tolkiennutt (295 posts) -

Thanks guys! I allways get great advice here. Is Radeon coming out with 8 series?

#9 Posted by DoomZaW (6471 posts) -

The GTX 570 is still a damn good card. The difference between it and the 7950 is noticable but not worth 300ish dollars.

What CPU are you using by any chance?

#10 Posted by MK-Professor (3829 posts) -

You will get close to 60% more performance on average IF you OC the HD7950 to 1150-1200MHz(which is very easy on this card).

#11 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (3904 posts) -

A GTX 570 plays Battlefield 3 at 1920x1080 with everything on high and no MSAA and gets a 50-60FPS... Really no point in upgrading that GPU to anything in my opinion.

A HD 7950 doesn't offer a substantial performance boost.

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Also a tip for Metro 2033... Play DX11 on Very High and no DX11 features and no AA if you want a good framerates, turning on either DX11 feature or AA you will end up with 25-30FPS no matter what SINGLE card setup you have.

#12 Posted by Chris_53 (5119 posts) -

A GTX 570 plays Battlefield 3 at 1920x1080 with everything on high and no MSAA and gets a 50-60FPS... Really no point in upgrading that GPU to anything in my opinion.

A HD 7950 doesn't offer a substantial performance boost.

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Also a tip for Metro 2033... Play DX11 on Very High and no DX11 features and no AA if you want a good framerates, turning on either DX11 feature or AA you will end up with 25-30FPS no matter what SINGLE card setup you have.

Grey_Eyed_Elf
Interesting, when I played metro 2033, I had it on high, not very high with DX11 and tessellation and it was running ok, i cant remember exact numbers but it was very smooth. This was at 1920x1080 with no MSAA. Not trying to brag or anything, just thought this would be useful somewhat. I still have my GTX570 and I have no desire to upgrade, maybe when the next gen cards come out and when games that require that sort of power start rolling out.
#13 Posted by Postmortem123 (7711 posts) -

Interesting, when I played metro 2033, I had it on high, not very high with DX11 and tessellation and it was running ok, i cant remember exact numbers but it was very smooth. This was at 1920x1080 with no MSAA. Not trying to brag or anything, just thought this would be useful somewhat. I still have my GTX570 and I have no desire to upgrade, maybe when the next gen cards come out and when games that require that sort of power start rolling out. Chris_53

You probably didn't have Advanced DOF on.

#14 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

Keep the GTX 570. No need to upgrade from something like that right now.

#15 Posted by bigfoot2045 (773 posts) -

Batman AC and Deus cant use em in DX11. Major FPS drops! I also just download Metro (great buy $4.99)

tolkiennutt

Deus Ex Human Revolution has a micro stuttering issue on many systems that requires a registry tweak to fix. The fix is on the Eidos forums. It doesn't appear to be hardware related as it affects even some of the most high-end systems out there.

Don't why you're having issues with Batman. I can max that game on a GTX 460 at 1680x1050 with ease. Could be a driver issue.

#16 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (3904 posts) -

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]

A GTX 570 plays Battlefield 3 at 1920x1080 with everything on high and no MSAA and gets a 50-60FPS... Really no point in upgrading that GPU to anything in my opinion.

A HD 7950 doesn't offer a substantial performance boost.

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Also a tip for Metro 2033... Play DX11 on Very High and no DX11 features and no AA if you want a good framerates, turning on either DX11 feature or AA you will end up with 25-30FPS no matter what SINGLE card setup you have.

Chris_53

Interesting, when I played metro 2033, I had it on high, not very high with DX11 and tessellation and it was running ok, i cant remember exact numbers but it was very smooth. This was at 1920x1080 with no MSAA. Not trying to brag or anything, just thought this would be useful somewhat. I still have my GTX570 and I have no desire to upgrade, maybe when the next gen cards come out and when games that require that sort of power start rolling out.

Strange... I just did a few tests and:

1920x1080

  • Very High, No AA or Tesselation and DOF: 70FPS
  • Very High, AA and Tesselation with DOF: 30FPS
  • High, Tesselation with DOF but NO AA: 50FPS

2560x1080

  • Very High, No AA or Tesselation and DOF: 50FPS
  • Very High, AA and Tesselation with DOF: 20FPS
  • High, Tesselation with DOF NO but AA: 40FPS

This is with a GTX 670 2GB and i5 2500K 4.4GHz and 8GB RAM.

Not saying I don't believe you. I just find it strange... Maybe you just don't remember how bad the framerate was? :P

#17 Posted by Chris_53 (5119 posts) -
I only had tessellation, I had no DOF. Sorry I forgot to mention that lol :P
#18 Posted by Chris_53 (5119 posts) -

[QUOTE="tolkiennutt"]

Batman AC and Deus cant use em in DX11. Major FPS drops! I also just download Metro (great buy $4.99)

bigfoot2045

Deus Ex Human Revolution has a micro stuttering issue on many systems that requires a registry tweak to fix. The fix is on the Eidos forums. It doesn't appear to be hardware related as it affects even some of the most high-end systems out there.

Don't why you're having issues with Batman. I can max that game on a GTX 460 at 1680x1050 with ease. Could be a driver issue.

There was a beta driver released that was suppost to fix the "severe drops in frame-rates" as they call it.
#19 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (3904 posts) -
I only had tessellation, I had no DOF. Sorry I forgot to mention that lol :P Chris_53
It's okay... We all get confuzzled sometimes. Since were on the topic, anyone looking forward to the inevitable slideshow that Metro Last Light is going to be once maxed out? :P Personally I am looking forward to the game but I am not looking forward to it ripping a new whole in my brand new GTX 670, which is probably will :(.
#20 Posted by Chris_53 (5119 posts) -
[QUOTE="Chris_53"]I only had tessellation, I had no DOF. Sorry I forgot to mention that lol :P Grey_Eyed_Elf
It's okay... We all get confuzzled sometimes. Since were on the topic, anyone looking forward to the inevitable slideshow that Metro Last Light is going to be once maxed out? :P Personally I am looking forward to the game but I am not looking forward to it ripping a new whole in my brand new GTX 670, which is probably will :(.

Im interested to see how it looks, maybe I can manage a two-digit frame-rate lol
#21 Posted by Grey_Eyed_Elf (3904 posts) -
[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"][QUOTE="Chris_53"]I only had tessellation, I had no DOF. Sorry I forgot to mention that lol :P Chris_53
It's okay... We all get confuzzled sometimes. Since were on the topic, anyone looking forward to the inevitable slideshow that Metro Last Light is going to be once maxed out? :P Personally I am looking forward to the game but I am not looking forward to it ripping a new whole in my brand new GTX 670, which is probably will :(.

Im interested to see how it looks, maybe I can manage a two-digit frame-rate lol

As long as I can play it on High with no AA at 2560x1440 I will be happy. They said that they are optimizing the engine to run better but since they are a small development group with little time and money I'm not holding my breath, chances are its going to run the same... Which basically means unless your playing at 1280x1024 with a GTX 680 prepare to get your card crushed, or lower the settings :|... But who wants to do that?! :P
#22 Posted by lulmont (670 posts) -

I'd wait until 8000 or 700 series gpus. My 5850 lasted me two gens your 570 should do the same.

#23 Posted by Postmortem123 (7711 posts) -

[QUOTE="Chris_53"][QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"] It's okay... We all get confuzzled sometimes. Since were on the topic, anyone looking forward to the inevitable slideshow that Metro Last Light is going to be once maxed out? :P Personally I am looking forward to the game but I am not looking forward to it ripping a new whole in my brand new GTX 670, which is probably will :(.Grey_Eyed_Elf
Im interested to see how it looks, maybe I can manage a two-digit frame-rate lol

As long as I can play it on High with no AA at 2560x1440 I will be happy. They said that they are optimizing the engine to run better but since they are a small development group with little time and money I'm not holding my breath, chances are its going to run the same... Which basically means unless your playing at 1280x1024 with a GTX 680 prepare to get your card crushed, or lower the settings :|... But who wants to do that?! :P

I'm hoping it's demanding as hell so it can give me an excuse to buy another 7970 :P

#24 Posted by kraken2109 (13075 posts) -

8000 series is rumoured to be out in a couple of months or less

#25 Posted by bostonfan05 (154 posts) -

Upgrading a 570? What the heck?

#26 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"][QUOTE="Chris_53"] Im interested to see how it looks, maybe I can manage a two-digit frame-rate lol Postmortem123

As long as I can play it on High with no AA at 2560x1440 I will be happy. They said that they are optimizing the engine to run better but since they are a small development group with little time and money I'm not holding my breath, chances are its going to run the same... Which basically means unless your playing at 1280x1024 with a GTX 680 prepare to get your card crushed, or lower the settings :|... But who wants to do that?! :P

I'm hoping it's demanding as hell so it can give me an excuse to buy another 7970 :P

You should get another 7970 anyways!:x

#27 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6056 posts) -

8000 series is rumoured to be out in a couple of months or less

kraken2109

AMD usually sends out 1 new series every year, so I wouldn't be suprised if the 8000 series came out in January 2013