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don't compress anything at all. Heck, MGS4 is going to be 50gigs. THe guy said its not even enough space.

4seal

I don't really see what's stopping the pirates from just compressing the information.

Well... no.

All that would do is, as is so often the case with anti-piracy measures, punish the people who bought it legally while not overly hindering the people who get it ilegally. I know large hard disks are pretty cheap these days, but who wants to spend 200gb of space on four games?

That's not a reasonable solution.

And while 50GB may seem like a lot to download, it honestly isn't that much. My housemate downloads 4.7GB in about ten minutes. If he really wanted the game, a 50GB download wouldn't be punishing him. Remember that everything is getting bigger and faster, so you can just keep going higher and higher and internet speeds are going to continually increase to compensate anyway.

And then there's the innocent people. Those who bought the game. Would I then have to delete stuff off my hard disk just to fit it in there? Would I have to delete porn? Would I have to delete my porn? Seriously. Games or porn? If I have to make that choice, I may as well just buy a 360.

I think a better solution might be to go the opposite route, have games perform a minimal install and then stream from the disk. It would hurt us for loading times, but we're getting to a point where optical media is so fast that the difference would be negligible - and while it wouldn't cut down on piracy a whole ton (because nothing will), it may help more than bloated filesizes, and most importantly it wouldn't hurt the legitimate consumers, besides them having to stream off a disc. But that's not a big deal in my opinion. I dunno how it would adversely affect mods and stuff, but I imagine there's a way around that.

Of course Blu-ray's going to have an impact on piracy.

First off is the immense size of the file, even if you strip down padding and compress it, the ISO would be about 5-10gb in the least. That's a large chunk of your hard-drive taken up by just an ISO, not to mention a large portion of bandwith. Add in a few hundred dollars for a bluray burner and another ten for each disk (not to mention if someone does manage to make a modchip that could be a few hundred too), and even if a isoloader/ custom firmware is developed, you void your warranty and open up a chance for the ps3 to brick.

Games have gotten so large to the point where it's just not cost effective, not to mention the ethical and legal implications for pirating games on the ps3. besides, awesome games deserve to be bought so that gamers can support the devs, and they can continue development on sequels and new IP's.

I really don't know much about torrents. But is usenet like a private thing or somthing? Or can anyone get it and download anything that fast?

4seal

IDK about usenet, but it's about downloading one file that is called a torrent and using a client to open it. Don't know about the speed I don't use it.

No, it wouldn't help stop piracy.

Number one, you have to first convert the majority of users of DVD drives to become Blu-Ray users. This won't be happening for a couple of years.

Number two, you have to get developers/publishers to use Blu-Ray technology for their games. Most developers won't be doing this as it ties into their profits due to number one. Also, look at DX10 and it's slow acceptance into the market....developers/publishers take their sweet time.

Number three, technology advances at extremely rapid rates. I remember back about 10 years ago with 128kb/s max and now you have over 10Mb/s. Add in the fact that the majority of countries are planning on improving their network infrastructure to support even faster speeds, then I can't see it being that big of an issue to download 50GB.

Number four, Hard drive space is not as expensive as before. A 1TB drive costs about $400CDN and although it may not be able to hold many blu-ray games, most pirates will not care and just free up space when they are done.

It is a good idea but it won't be happening for a long time.

No the industry would be shooting it self in the leg.. Pc games rarely go beyond one dvd.. And Blue ray drives are immensely expensive.sSubZerOo

Exactly.

Not to mention the piracy scene would quickly generate rips and repackaging of such titles to make distribution easier. All the publishing industry would be doing is making PC gaming harder on its legitimate buyers (which, admittedly, wouldn't be anything new) by requiring far more HDD space to install such titles.

how would you make a game take up 50 gig??ferrari2001

Mebbe once our games are photorealistic and with really long storylines...Otherwise I dont think this would work.

How about turning the PC into a console? Mhm!Ps2stony

Oh no! a console user . I'll try to establish a contact on a language they understand

N0 Sp3akz0rs C0nz0lish S0rry

The answer is no, it will not stop piracy. Nothing will stop piracy.teebeenz

Correct, the only thing that might reduce piracy would be to drastically reduce the prices of games.

i thought blue ray is a format only for moviescrapdog

perhaps, but Blu-Ray can be used for anything. like DVD.

don't need to burn images to discs, just mount it with daemon tools/alcohol 120%, and you're set.gullytolwyn

Lol... True. People hardly waste their time burning images to a dvd.

Pc gamers will be pissed. Everyone would have to fork out alot of money for a Blu-Ray drive. And some people (Those who don't build their own) Would have to buy an entire new computer.

And ofc, most of it would be compressed. Any dummies would be removed ect.

There are crack groups out there such as Razer and a few others who compete against each other for popularity ect, sorta like E-Egos. The one who compressed it the most would get downloaded the most ect.

And ofc, what the hell would that do to your HDD!?

Games are installed on PC. If you've ever seen no-cd cracks they are only 5-10mbs in size. When you install a game it pretty much takes the stuff off the CD and puts it onto your HDD. So you would need to pay a hell of alot of money upgrading all your HDDs aswell.

It just isn't a viable option.

Number one, you have to first convert the majority of users of DVD drives to become Blu-Ray users. This won't be happening for a couple of years.Cdscottie

More than a couple. It's going to take at least 7 years for PC games to start being released on BR-DVD format. Look how long it took PC developers to start using DVD over CD. You've got at least 15 years before games would even get to the point where they're primarily released on BR-DVD.

Hmmm I do believe it would lessen piracy, but the folks would still hack the games and post them up. I think if anyone wanted to they would download the games, but I dont think many would want to.

I also think that pirates would remove non-critical files, i.e. cinematics, which take up a huge portion of many games.

Still, a good suggestion but I dont see bluray becoming common for atleast 5 more years.

Like others mentioned, it would just need some compression.

And really, by the time releasing games on BluRay becomes relevant, the download speeds in an average household will be fast enough for torrentors not to notice the difference of it being 35gigs vs the current 4-6 gigs

By the time games reach the size of 50GB, insanely fast internet connections will be available and the "not so fast by that time but very fast now i.e. year 2008" will get ridiculously cheap. So... No, you'll have to think of another way to eradicate piracy; completely remove home internet connection maybe?

Would you dare remove the web to stop the spiders?

A game @ around 4gigs would take about 10 hours to download on average on a public torrent with 50+ seeds and 50+ leechers. GodLovesDead

Um, sory to break it to you, but my friend torrents games at around 1 game per 1 hour. The speeds on torrent networks are really high right now, even with under 100 seeds/leechers

No.

And why the hell would anyone make it the stanard when nearly no computer users have a blu ray drive.

DVD and DD is here to stay on PC.

No.

And why the hell would anyone make it the stanard when nearly no computer users have a blu ray drive.

DVD and DD is here to stay on PC.

skrat_01

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No.

And why the hell would anyone make it the stanard when nearly no computer users have a blu ray drive.

DVD and DD is here to stay on PC.

teebeenz

Imagine you want to release your game right now to the public, and you are wondering what format to put it on.

Or even 4 years down the line.

Multiple DVD installation - cheaper to manafacture (cheaper to buy) DVDs, and everyone has a DVD Drive, or a Blu Ray Disk - far less people have, costs more to buy.

Its a no brainer.