No surprise here: Nvidia responds to Catalyst 12.11 with 310.54

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#1 Posted by ravenguard90 (3064 posts) -
#2 Posted by ferret-gamer (17310 posts) -
#3 Posted by ravenguard90 (3064 posts) -

I'd say the 12.11 drivers are still the winners. The 7970ghz outperforms the 680 for less cost, and the 660ti continues to have terrible value by getting comparable performance to a 7870ghz while being the same price as a 7950.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1322119/12-11-vs-310-33

http://hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/1

ferret-gamer

Those two links you made refer to the 310.33 driver. According to the Geforce release, 310.54 adds more performance boosts for other games.

That's not to say I don't agree with you, though. I'd still like to see an independent source to verify the results first.

#4 Posted by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -
#5 Posted by ShadowDeathX (10563 posts) -
#6 Posted by ferret-gamer (17310 posts) -

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

I'd say the 12.11 drivers are still the winners. The 7970ghz outperforms the 680 for less cost, and the 660ti continues to have terrible value by getting comparable performance to a 7870ghz while being the same price as a 7950.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1322119/12-11-vs-310-33

http://hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/1

ravenguard90

Those two links you made refer to the 310.33 driver. According to the Geforce release, 310.54 adds more performance boosts for other games.

That's not to say I don't agree with you, though. I'd still like to see an independent source to verify the results first.

The first link uses 310.54, and also compares the performace of 310.54 to 310.33, showing there is barely any difference between the two drivers in the stuff tested.

#7 Posted by Truth_Hurts_U (9077 posts) -

While I have a GTX 690... I'm glad AMD is fighting back. The more competition, the better the prices, better drivers and the faster new cards come out.

#8 Posted by ravenguard90 (3064 posts) -

[QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

I'd say the 12.11 drivers are still the winners. The 7970ghz outperforms the 680 for less cost, and the 660ti continues to have terrible value by getting comparable performance to a 7870ghz while being the same price as a 7950.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1322119/12-11-vs-310-33

http://hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/1

ferret-gamer

Those two links you made refer to the 310.33 driver. According to the Geforce release, 310.54 adds more performance boosts for other games.

That's not to say I don't agree with you, though. I'd still like to see an independent source to verify the results first.

The first link uses 310.54, and also compares the performace of 310.54 to 310.33, showing there is barely any difference between the two.

Ah, I see. Didn't see that upon first glimpse. Guess it's not looking good right now for Nvidia...

Just to be sure that they are actually "tweaking" the numbers, though, I'd like to see a BF3 benchmark comparison, since that does show a significant jump.

#9 Posted by yellosnolvr (19302 posts) -

While I have a GTX 690... I'm glad AMD is fighting back. The more competition, the better the prices, better drivers and the faster new cards come out.

Truth_Hurts_U
yeah. just depresses me that i made the mistake of getting a 6xxx card :( those were neglected by drivers hardcore.
#10 Posted by godzillavskong (7891 posts) -
[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

While I have a GTX 690... I'm glad AMD is fighting back. The more competition, the better the prices, better drivers and the faster new cards come out.

yellosnolvr
yeah. just depresses me that i made the mistake of getting a 6xxx card :( those were neglected by drivers hardcore.

I haven't noticed any issues with my 6870s.
#11 Posted by Timstuff (26823 posts) -

I had to uninstall the 12.11 beta because it was screwing up Photoshop. If I tried to use a hue that had the blue levels at 100%, it would show up as a pixelated black splotch with the correct hue aroudn the edges. It's too bad, because I rather liked the performance boost in my games. Hopefully they fix t for the official release, because it was working fine up until today.

#12 Posted by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -

While I have a GTX 690... I'm glad AMD is fighting back. The more competition, the better the prices, better drivers and the faster new cards come out.

Truth_Hurts_U
AMD needs to fix it's CPU side.

I had to uninstall the 12.11 beta because it was screwing up Photoshop. If I tried to use a hue that had the blue levels at 100%, it would show up as a pixelated black splotch with the correct hue aroudn the edges. It's too bad, because I rather liked the performance boost in my games. Hopefully they fix t for the official release, because it was working fine up until today.

Timstuff
Which 12.11 beta? There are multiple 12.11 Beta releases e.g. 12.11 Beta 4, 12.11 Beta 6, 12.11 Beta 7.
#13 Posted by topgunmv (10142 posts) -

I had to uninstall the 12.11 beta because it was screwing up Photoshop. If I tried to use a hue that had the blue levels at 100%, it would show up as a pixelated black splotch with the correct hue aroudn the edges. It's too bad, because I rather liked the performance boost in my games. Hopefully they fix t for the official release, because it was working fine up until today.

Timstuff

Use radeonpro and set up game profiles.

#14 Posted by GTR12 (9070 posts) -

310.54 wont work with W8 and my setup, the OS just refuses to startup, goes into an endless boot loop.

#15 Posted by SPBoss (3630 posts) -

310.54 wont work with W8 and my setup, the OS just refuses to startup, goes into an endless boot loop.

GTR12
lol you should read the details before you install a beta!
#16 Posted by kraken2109 (12978 posts) -

Wonder if it'll have any effect on GTX200 series

#17 Posted by GTR12 (9070 posts) -

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

310.54 wont work with W8 and my setup, the OS just refuses to startup, goes into an endless boot loop.

SPBoss

lol you should read the details before you install a beta!

Nah its fine now lol

#18 Posted by 04dcarraher (19171 posts) -

Wonder if it'll have any effect on GTX200 series

kraken2109

I doubt you see the same improvements, these newer drivers tend to focus on Fermi+ architectures.

#19 Posted by kraken2109 (12978 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

Wonder if it'll have any effect on GTX200 series

04dcarraher

I doubt you see the same improvements, these newer drivers tend to focus on Fermi+ architectures.

Yeah, probably not worth the risk of installing beta drivers.
#20 Posted by HooahDOc (84 posts) -

Other than a couple oddball reviews, I thought most data indicate the GTX 680 slightly outperformed the 7970? I have both cards, but the radeon just sits around in a box. I can't even get rid of it on CL for $350

#21 Posted by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -

Other than a couple oddball reviews, I thought most data indicate the GTX 680 slightly outperformed the 7970? I have both cards, but the radeon just sits around in a box. I can't even get rid of it on CL for $350

HooahDOc

Depends on the benchmark mix.

For example

7970GEvsGTX680.jpg

7950Flex_Vs_660TiPE.jpg

Light weight games from Activision-Blizzard would skew the average.

A customer can buy a new HIS branded 7970 for $376.9(after rebates) with 3 bundled games (FarCry3, HitMan, Sleeping Dogs). Link http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=70&sort=a5

#22 Posted by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

Read the info here, and make your own judgement: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-310-54-beta-drivers-released

ShadowDeathX

AMD has another beta driver i.e. Catalyst 12.11 beta 7. http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/download_amd_catalyst_12_11_beta_7.html

hardocp.com uses Catalyst 12.11 beta 6

Nice find. AMD has been kicking arse.

Cat 12.11 Beta 8 has been released http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst1211betadriver.aspx

  • Improves performance up to 5% in Max Payne 3
  • Includes single GPU performance updates for Far Cry 3
  • Improves CrossFire scaling for Planetside 2 (Crossfire scaling is still limited to ~30% at 2560x1600)
  • Resolves the Skyrim lighting issue (missing a lighting pass) for the AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
  • Resolves the hang encountered playing Dishonored on the AMD Radeon HD 6000 and AMD Radeon HD 5000 Series
  • AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta 8 for Linux includes significant performance improvements for Left for Dead 2
#23 Posted by godzillavskong (7891 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

AMD has another beta driver i.e. Catalyst 12.11 beta 7. http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/download_amd_catalyst_12_11_beta_7.html

hardocp.com uses Catalyst 12.11 beta 6

ronvalencia

Nice find. AMD has been kicking arse.

Cat 12.11 Beta 8 has been released http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst1211betadriver.aspx

  • Improves performance up to 5% in Max Payne 3
  • Includes single GPU performance updates for Far Cry 3
  • Improves CrossFire scaling for Planetside 2 (Crossfire scaling is still limited to ~30% at 2560x1600)
  • Resolves the Skyrim lighting issue (missing a lighting pass) for the AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
  • Resolves the hang encountered playing Dishonored on the AMD Radeon HD 6000 and AMD Radeon HD 5000 Series
  • AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta 8 for Linux includes significant performance improvements for Left for Dead 2

That's good to know. I have the 6xxx series GPUs and I was planning on getting Dishonored for the PC, so it's good to see that they patched it. I just downloaded this new Catalyst 12.11. So far so good.
#24 Posted by Timstuff (26823 posts) -

[QUOTE="HooahDOc"]

Other than a couple oddball reviews, I thought most data indicate the GTX 680 slightly outperformed the 7970? I have both cards, but the radeon just sits around in a box. I can't even get rid of it on CL for $350

ronvalencia

A customer can buy a new HIS branded 7970 for $376.9(after rebates) with 3 bundled games (FarCry3, HitMan, Sleeping Dogs). Link http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=70&sort=a5

The price is nice, but unfortunately the XFX version is the only 7970 that will fit inside my Storm Scout. It's not like I can afford a new GPU at the moment anyway, though.

#25 Posted by Guovssohas (330 posts) -
This guy has tested these new drivers vs the older 310.33 driver. He has an EVGA 680 at 1305mhz, he also has a 7970 at 1295mhz to compare to and the 7970 is obviously on the 12.11 drivers. http://www.overclock.net/t/1322119/12-11-vs-310-33 According to him there's no gains at all with the games he tested. With other games there might be huge gains, what do i know.