New PC build to rival PS4/Xbox720

Hello everyone, I just wanted some feedback on a build i'm making for a friend of mine. He really emphasized having good graphics and he also wanted all the bells and whistles of the current PS3 (bluray drive, wifi, and a card reader). He's coming from console gaming and diving into PC gaming which is a huge jump for him. His maximum budget is $900, but this is really stretching it, The $700 range is obviously more desirable for his budget.

With that said, I was thinking about using an I5 (k series) paired with a 7850. Here is the breakdown I put together:

I5 3570k $215http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

ASUS P8B75-V LGA MOBO $90.00http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131835

Seagate 1tb HD $70.00http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840

XFX DD HD7850 2gb $210.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150609

Corsair 600w PSU $70.00http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028

LG Bluray Drive $55.00http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136252

Rosewill Card Reader $15.00http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820223103

Apevia Mid Tower ATX Case $50.00http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144259

Enermax Wireless Keyboard and Mouse $14.00http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823219009

The estimated cost for this rig is $910.00 USD. After rebates, it should be $850.00 Please note that additional SATA cables and additional case fans may be required; therefore, the price may slightly rise.

When I showed him this build and the specs, he was happy with it, but he just wanted to make sure it would keepup with future games for at least 3 years (running high and ultra). I've already told him that video cards will eventually be outdated and may not be able to play every new game at ultra settings.He just wants to make sure that whatever money he's putting into this system will be worthwhile, emphasizing "wanting to make sure I don't regret spending all this money when I could have just bought a PS4/XBOX 720."I've explained to him that he cannot save money and future proof at the same time.

I can try to cut corners to lower cost (switching the I5 to an I3) OR completely switching to an AMD CPU and MOBO combo. Any suggestions or completely new rigs will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the feedback!

Get a stronger gpu, and a better case. the next xbox could have upto a 7850 based gpu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

To save some money you could get this AMD cpu and motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131795

We know nothing about the next gen consoles.So I wouldnt bother trying to rival them the build you listed is good enough to play 95% of modern games on ultra.

Rather than cut back on stuff like the CPU i would suggest over things 1st like:

3570K - change this to the none K version as you paired it with a B77 mobo that if im correct doesnt support overclocking, so that will be a few dollars.

Drop the card reader, another 15 dollars

Give him a standard DVD rewriter and that should be another 40 dollars right there

That there should be another what +$60 dollars to stick in the GPU

Only after can you still not fit the i5 into the budget would i consider changing the CPU

card reader = useless.

wireless keyboard = :lol:

seagate hd = dead in 6 months.

Either get a different motherboard or get a non K series CPU.

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

slipknot0129

Honestly, how can you rival with a something that nobody knows any details about... ?

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

slipknot0129

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

slipknot0129

Unlikely. There wouldn't be another unified shader design shift. AMD has already stated that the next gen consoles will be using semi-custom parts.

AMD GCN products already has the latest DirectX11.1 Level 11.1 hardware features.

Based on Xbox 360/PS3's GPU historical die size and TDP limits, you're looking at Radeon HD 7850 level GPU. Consoles has lower TDP limit than gaming PCs.

Here's Johan Andersson (EA DICE's Frostbite game engine) twittering about DX 11.1, https://twitter.com/repi/status/114017754201325569

Glad to see 2 of my early key requests for DX11.1 got in: large cbuffers with subranges & NO_OVERWRITE on SRVs, will be good CPU perf help

I would say you already have a build that rivals them.dramaybaz

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

ronvalencia

Unlikely. There wouldn't be another unified shader design shift. AMD has already stated that the next gen consoles will be using semi-custom parts.

AMD GCN products already has the latest DirectX11.1 Level 11.1 hardware features.

Based on Xbox 360/PS3's GPU historical die size and TDP limits, you're looking at Radeon HD 7850 level GPU. Consoles has lower TDP limit than gaming PCs.

Here's Johan Andersson (EA DICE's Frostbite game engine) twittering about DX 11.1, https://twitter.com/repi/status/114017754201325569

Glad to see 2 of my early key requests for DX11.1 got in: large cbuffers with subranges & NO_OVERWRITE on SRVs, will be good CPU perf help

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

slipknot0129

Unlikely. There wouldn't be another unified shader design shift. AMD has already stated that the next gen consoles will be using semi-custom parts.

AMD GCN products already has the latest DirectX11.1 Level 11.1 hardware features.

Based on Xbox 360/PS3's GPU historical die size and TDP limits, you're looking at Radeon HD 7850 level GPU. Consoles has lower TDP limit than gaming PCs.

Here's Johan Andersson (EA DICE's Frostbite game engine) twittering about DX 11.1, https://twitter.com/repi/status/114017754201325569

Glad to see 2 of my early key requests for DX11.1 got in: large cbuffers with subranges & NO_OVERWRITE on SRVs, will be good CPU perf help

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

slipknot0129

Unlikely. There wouldn't be another unified shader design shift. AMD has already stated that the next gen consoles will be using semi-custom parts.

AMD GCN products already has the latest DirectX11.1 Level 11.1 hardware features.

Based on Xbox 360/PS3's GPU historical die size and TDP limits, you're looking at Radeon HD 7850 level GPU. Consoles has lower TDP limit than gaming PCs.

Here's Johan Andersson (EA DICE's Frostbite game engine) twittering about DX 11.1, https://twitter.com/repi/status/114017754201325569

Glad to see 2 of my early key requests for DX11.1 got in: large cbuffers with subranges & NO_OVERWRITE on SRVs, will be good CPU perf help

LMAO - no where near my friend - both these consoles will be sub 400quid, meaning it wont have a super power effcient 400 pound gpu in it. Added to this neither Sony (especially Sony) nor Microsoft can afford to pay for the consoles for the first 12 months of the life cycles like they did last time around. Im really sorry people think the next consoles will be amazing, compared to the ps2/xbox >> ps3/360 this one is gonna be pretty unspectacular. Both consoles will be more PS3/360 v2.0s than new ground breaking super consoles. Not a bad thing as the hardware needs updating.

Back on topic - why does he need a blueray player? As far as i am aware there is no software now or in the future that will require a blueray player and the cost of bluerays is much higher than nand tech so again there is no reason to choose blueray, it is just a cost especially when you are on a budget and more things are far more important.

Also the reason to dump the card reader is its much easier to plug in a usb cable than fiddle about with taking the cards out, i have a card reader and guess what i never use it, i also thought i would but its much quicker to plug in a usb cable, i do a lot of camera work and the mrs does the photoshop.

As far as gaming goes getting feet wet area would defently be more 7770 - 7870 rather than a 670/7950. Have a talk with him to find out what he wants to be doing as the difference is $300. Is this a gaming rig, or something for photo editing? Might be worth chasing him down and get him to be very specific in what he wants to be doing.

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

slipknot0129

Where the hell do you get your information from? That's such an absurd statement. From the speculation that I've seen, almost any midrange gaming PC today has more horsepower than the new consoles will.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

slipknot0129

Unlikely. There wouldn't be another unified shader design shift. AMD has already stated that the next gen consoles will be using semi-custom parts.

AMD GCN products already has the latest DirectX11.1 Level 11.1 hardware features.

Based on Xbox 360/PS3's GPU historical die size and TDP limits, you're looking at Radeon HD 7850 level GPU. Consoles has lower TDP limit than gaming PCs.

Here's Johan Andersson (EA DICE's Frostbite game engine) twittering about DX 11.1, https://twitter.com/repi/status/114017754201325569

Glad to see 2 of my early key requests for DX11.1 got in: large cbuffers with subranges & NO_OVERWRITE on SRVs, will be good CPU perf help

If that were true, they would have to use something like 14nm tech and it would cost a few thousand dollars. You're WAY off your rocker.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

slipknot0129

Unlikely. There wouldn't be another unified shader design shift. AMD has already stated that the next gen consoles will be using semi-custom parts.

AMD GCN products already has the latest DirectX11.1 Level 11.1 hardware features.

Based on Xbox 360/PS3's GPU historical die size and TDP limits, you're looking at Radeon HD 7850 level GPU. Consoles has lower TDP limit than gaming PCs.

Here's Johan Andersson (EA DICE's Frostbite game engine) twittering about DX 11.1, https://twitter.com/repi/status/114017754201325569

Glad to see 2 of my early key requests for DX11.1 got in: large cbuffers with subranges & NO_OVERWRITE on SRVs, will be good CPU perf help

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

hartsickdiscipl

Where the hell do you get your information from? That's such an absurd statement. From the speculation that I've seen, almost any midrange gaming PC today has more horsepower than the new consoles will.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

Where the hell do you get your information from? That's such an absurd statement. From the speculation that I've seen, almost any midrange gaming PC today has more horsepower than the new consoles will.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

Elann2008

Where the hell do you get your information from? That's such an absurd statement. From the speculation that I've seen, almost any midrange gaming PC today has more horsepower than the new consoles will.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

LordsLoss

Where the hell do you get your information from? That's such an absurd statement. From the speculation that I've seen, almost any midrange gaming PC today has more horsepower than the new consoles will.

I'd like to agree with you, but I don't think he's joking.

[QUOTE="LordsLoss"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Where the hell do you get your information from? That's such an absurd statement. From the speculation that I've seen, almost any midrange gaming PC today has more horsepower than the new consoles will.

hartsickdiscipl

I'd like to agree with you, but I don't think he's joking.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LordsLoss"] I'm going to say sarcasm...slipknot0129

I'd like to agree with you, but I don't think he's joking.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="LordsLoss"] I'm going to say sarcasm...slipknot0129

I'd like to agree with you, but I don't think he's joking.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I'd like to agree with you, but I don't think he's joking.

Toxic-Seahorse

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]I laugh everytime some sucker buys a gtx 680 or 7970 and thinks he's beat the Xbox 720 in graphics.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]I laugh everytime some sucker buys a gtx 680 or 7970 and thinks he's beat the Xbox 720 in graphics.

slipknot0129

Too bad nobody will listen to you. Anybody with an X51 in their sig isn't worth listening to. Their purchase alone all but proves their ignorance.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] I laugh everytime you make a post because I know you're trolling.hartsickdiscipl

Too bad nobody will listen to you. Anybody with an X51 in their sig isn't worth listening to. Their purchase alone all but proves their ignorance.

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]I laugh everytime some sucker buys a gtx 680 or 7970 and thinks he's beat the Xbox 720 in graphics.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

You'll need something like a gtx 890 plus a 16 core cpu. Aint no current computer that can compete with ps4 and the 720 in power.

kraken2109

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] I laugh everytime you make a post because I know you're trolling.darksusperia

http://www.psx-sense.nl/89207/exclusief-talloze-informatie-over-de-playstation-4-inclusief-specificaties/

Semi-custom AMD APU has Radeon HD 7850 level GPU i.e. 16 CUs. 16 CUs doubles AMD Kaveri's 8 CUs (Radeon HD 7750) config.

AMD Trinity APU has 6 CUs based on AMD Cayman. Both Cayman and GCN has 64 stream processors per CU.

"Real-time Global Illumination" is one of AMD GCN's tech demo features.