Currently I own a GTX 680, but since next gen consoles are gonna be AMD based, do you guys think it's a good idea to switch over to an AMD GPU?
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Theres not much info on either the nvidia or amd 20nm GPU's so I can't really tell you which one im getting. The only thing ive heard is that maxwell (nvidia) is rumored for summer (im not sure about the AMD 20nm)
[QUOTE="AMD655"]
Pointless thread.
id_mew
Don't participate if you don't like my topic, wasting my time and yours.
Very good point.
We'll to be fair he's kinda right (there nothing to really dicuss). We don't know much about next gen dev kits and we hardly know anything about the 20nm GPU's coming out next yearDon't participate if you don't like my topic, wasting my time and yours.
id_mew
as of now we know next to nothing of worth about hte next GPU lineups. As for the Consoles using AMD, I doubt there will be a huge impact and change. Both driver manufactors have so far delivered driver support and updates for games, Nvidia tends to have some really impressive support for devs, aswell for tools. After release it is Nvidia and AMDs job to update said drivers delivered to devs.
So while AMD might get a much needed focus where Nvidia has led so far, the impact of the next gen being amd only machines, I doubt we wwill see a huge impact, that said it is only a guess, because... again, no one knows.
as of now we know next to nothing of worth about hte next GPU lineups. As for the Consoles using AMD, I doubt there will be a huge impact and change. Both driver manufactors have so far delivered driver support and updates for games, Nvidia tends to have some really impressive support for devs, aswell for tools. After release it is Nvidia and AMDs job to update said drivers delivered to devs.
So while AMD might get a much needed focus where Nvidia has led so far, the impact of the next gen being amd only machines, I doubt we wwill see a huge impact, that said it is only a guess, because... again, no one knows.
Maddie_Larkin
Thanks for your smart response.
I guess I'll stick with gtx 680 and see how it holds up with the next gen games than I'll decide from there.
noCurrently I own a GTX 680, but since next gen consoles are gonna be AMD based, do you guys think it's a good idea to switch over to an AMD GPU?
id_mew
It hard to me to not want to upgrade to a GTX 760 or GTX 770 from a GTX 570 there already some game i can't max... i wonder if i should give in and manage to sell my card meh...
if AMD provide something OP early i might go back to them but terrible experience with ATI Driver back in the day Scared me of them a bit and the knowledge some game With PhsyX couldn't run smooth or Run the Feature at all back in the day but did they ever fix Borderland 2 PhsyX not being 100% (High) effective on AMD GPU been trying to figure out if it solved without Dead Format known as Hybrid Driver Like HD6970 + GTS 450 for PhsyX Full Support
Anyway back to Topic , I did heard Console game could still use PhsyX as both will support it but majority could go APEX or TressFX : Tress FX Only game Tomb Raider 2013 does run better on AMD so One could assume new Console run them a bit smoother but the GPU it Self is a Weakling So is the CPU
So it unlikely just cause of the TressFX tech that AMD become Suddently Better Then Nvidia Maxwell on All Games That aren't PhsyX Developed so we don't know for now and i doubt we will know before next year
But if you look as Tomb Raider as of an Example of TressFX it Seem HD7950 & 7970 Lead But GTX 770 / 780 newest Nvidia manage does manage run it smooth if you drop some quality According Bench however mine doesn't obviously the game way to demanding for ultra + AA + TressFX + SSAO high same it give like 22FPS with a GTX 570 @ 870mhz
I personally go price for performance.
I recently upgraded from a GTX 560 Ti to a GTX 760 because of the cost difference between the two cards and similar performance.
At the time the GTX 760 I purchased (MSI Gaming TwinFrozr - amazing card/cooler btw. Hits 62-63 degrees max w/ OC! and is silent). was 259.99. The cheapest AMD 7950 was a reference card from a brand I don't entire trust for 299.99, and the only one I would have purchased was 319.99 + more shipping. So it was 60 dollars cheaper with similar performance.
Now if they were priced the same - I would have went with a AMD 7950 just because of the larger VRAM and better OC. Like right now they are down to 249.99 for a model I would have purchased.
(From Canada so the prices were a lot different - I think in the USA you guys had some wicked deals for the 7950 for awhile)
So for me its ALL price/performance. Don't care if its nVidia or AMD.
I'll probably upgrade to the new AMD flagship model. Unless it's somehow terrible or terribly priced.
Currently using a gtx 680.
I think with the actual newest drivers from nVidia handle Tomb Raider equally. I know I run TressFX w/ everything no problem with my GTX 760. They had like a +18% performance boost for Tomb Raider specifically for the latest drivers. On the topic of drivers - I had to update my drivers when I got my GTX 760 from 314.22 to 320.49. They are crap compared to 314.22 for stability I find. My mouse will randomly freeze in place for like 6-7 seconds. Tried their beta drivers - even worst. Could hardly overclock without getting an error, vs 320.49 I am running at 1180mhz Core/1303mhz BOOST and 1900Mhz Memory Clock (didn't touch any voltages). Runs flawlessly on 320.49, driver errors on the newer drivers constantly.it hard to me to not want to upgrade to a GTX 760 or GTX 770 from a GTX 570 there already some game i can't max... i wonder if i should give in and manage to sell my card meh...
marcthpro
if AMD provide something OP early i might go back to them but terrible experience with ATI Driver back in the day Scared me of them a bit and the knowledge some game With PhsyX couldn't run smooth or Run the Feature at all back in the day but did they ever fix Borderland 2 PhsyX not being 100% (High) effective on AMD GPU been trying to figure out if it solved without Dead Format known as Hybrid 6970 + GTS 450 hybrid driver
Anyway back to Topic However i heard Console game could still use PhsyX as both will support it but majority could go APEX or TressFX : Tress FX Only game Tomb Raider 2013 does run better on AMD So One Could Assume new Console run them a bit smoother but the GPU it Self is a Weakling So is the CPU
so it unlikely just cause of the TressFX tech that AMD become Suddently Better Then Nvidia Maxwell on All Games That aren't PhsyX Developed so we don't know for now and i doubt we will know before next year
but if you look as Tomb Raider as of an Example of TressFX it Seem HD7950 & 7970 Lead But GTX 770 / 780 newest Nvidia manage does manage run it smooth if you drop some quality According Bench however mine doesn't obviously the game way to demanding for ultra + AA + TressFX + SSAO high same it give like 22FPS with a GTX 570 @ 870mhz
(From Canada so the prices were a lot different - I think in the USA you guys had some wicked deals for the 7950 for awhile)
So for me its ALL price/performance. Don't care if its nVidia or AMD.
145ty
There is absolutely no point in upgrading a GTX 680 atm. At least wait until AMD and nVidia release their updated architectures next year, but I doubt that you would need a new GPU even then...superclockedThere's no point because the 770 is cheaper and better. But the idea of waiting for another architecture is fairly dubious to me. Especially for AMD since they confirmed the 8000 series was going to be a refresh of their 7000 series anyway. And the next big jump in GPU will only be in about 3 years when stacked DRAM comes out for Nvidia.
i will likely get a new AMD , but that is only true if AMD has better performance for the $$. Nvidia you have to pay a premium for lower performance, as long as they continue that way, I won't buy their products.
What are you talking about? The 760 and the 770 are better values currently than their AMDs counterparts.i will likely get a new AMD , but that is only true if AMD has better performance for the $$. Nvidia you have to pay a premium for lower performance, as long as they continue that way, I won't buy their products.
blaznwiipspman1
[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]What are you talking about? The 760 and the 770 are better values currently than their AMDs counterparts.i will likely get a new AMD , but that is only true if AMD has better performance for the $$. Nvidia you have to pay a premium for lower performance, as long as they continue that way, I won't buy their products.
RevanBITW
no, the 760 is arguably better than the 7950, but its known that the 7950 with a small overclock is faster than a 760, plus it overclocks higher, has more vram and a bigger bus. The 7970 is on par with a 770, but is currently selling for $300. Again the 7970 has more vram, and a bigger bus.
What are you talking about? The 760 and the 770 are better values currently than their AMDs counterparts.[QUOTE="RevanBITW"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]
i will likely get a new AMD , but that is only true if AMD has better performance for the $$. Nvidia you have to pay a premium for lower performance, as long as they continue that way, I won't buy their products.
blaznwiipspman1
with a small overclock is faster has more vram and a bigger bus. has more vram, and a bigger bus.
Same shit, different thread. Overclocks depend on the person, and the ability of their chip and cooling. 770 is faster than 7970, get over it. 760 offers better performance than 7950 get over it. Move along.770 is faster than 7970, get over it..AMD655Clock for clock I'd say the 7970 is faster. Same thing with the 7950/760.
Clock for clock I'd say the 7970 is faster.Postmortem123I've never heard clock for clock when comparing GPU's on my entire 6 years on this board (I hear it all the time for CPU's but ive never heard it used for GPU's).
I've heard stock vs. stock which is most likely what he's referring to
I've never heard clock for clock when comparing GPU's on my entire 6 years on this board (I hear it all the time for CPU's but ive never heard it used for GPU's).That's good for you, I guess. I hear it quite often on the overclocking sites.I've heard stock vs. stock which is most likely what he's referring to
mastershake575
And yes he's referring to stock vs stock. The 770 is 3% faster over all resolutions at stock.
That's good for you, I guess.Postmortem123My point is GPU clock for clock sounds like some made up statement that "Blaznwiipspman1" would use to discredit a fact/nvidia card :P
My point is GPU clock for clock sounds like some made up statement that "Blaznwiipspman1" would use to discredit a fact/nvidia card :Pmastershake575I usually wouldn't compare clock for clock, but Kepler and Tahiti generally clock to around the same from my experience and what I've seen (voltage locked 7970s being the exception). And I wouldn't do that, I own a Nvidia card ;P
[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"][QUOTE="RevanBITW"] What are you talking about? The 760 and the 770 are better values currently than their AMDs counterparts.AMD655
with a small overclock is faster has more vram and a bigger bus. has more vram, and a bigger bus.
Same shit, different thread. Overclocks depend on the person, and the ability of their chip and cooling. 770 is faster than 7970, get over it. 760 offers better performance than 7950 get over it. Move along.you need to take your own advice and 'get over it'. As postmortem said, clock for clock the 7000 series is faster, plus more vram and bigger bus = better value. I don't even know why you're getting upset about this, its already a well established fact going all the way back to the beginning that ATI and now AMD generally offeres better bang for buck than nvidia. People have their own reasons for buying nvidia, such as physx and cuda. As for me I don't fall for gimmicks that easily :D
Same shit, different thread. Overclocks depend on the person, and the ability of their chip and cooling. 770 is faster than 7970, get over it. 760 offers better performance than 7950 get over it. Move along.[QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]
with a small overclock is faster has more vram and a bigger bus. has more vram, and a bigger bus.
blaznwiipspman1
you need to take your own advice and 'get over it'. As postmortem said, clock for clock the 7000 series is faster, plus more vram and bigger bus = better value. I don't even know why you're getting upset about this, its already a well established fact going all the way back to the beginning that ATI and now AMD generally offeres better bang for buck than nvidia. People have their own reasons for buying nvidia, such as physx and cuda. As for me I don't fall for gimmicks that easily :D
You are the most biased pig on this side of the forums, any thread with GPU's, you are full on PRO AMD.... You have not a single good word to say about anything Nvidia, enjoy your terrible frame pacing, and LACK of leading features. There... i can be an ass too, but i try not to be, i see this from a none bias stand point, unlike you.[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"][QUOTE="AMD655"] Same shit, different thread. Overclocks depend on the person, and the ability of their chip and cooling. 770 is faster than 7970, get over it. 760 offers better performance than 7950 get over it. Move along.AMD655
you need to take your own advice and 'get over it'. As postmortem said, clock for clock the 7000 series is faster, plus more vram and bigger bus = better value. I don't even know why you're getting upset about this, its already a well established fact going all the way back to the beginning that ATI and now AMD generally offeres better bang for buck than nvidia. People have their own reasons for buying nvidia, such as physx and cuda. As for me I don't fall for gimmicks that easily :D
You are the most biased pig on this side of the forums, any thread with GPU's, you are full on PRO AMD.... You have not a single good word to say about anything Nvidia, enjoy your terrible frame pacing, and LACK of leading features. There... i can be an ass too, but i try not to be, i see this from a none bias stand point, unlike you.its no secret I favour AMD, but I always buy products from the company saving me benjamins $$, that is my bottom line. I have purchased nvidia graphics cards before, the last one was a palit 460 gtx.
Still what I said was true, which is probably what bothers you. Maybe you enjoy having the nvidia stick up there, I dont know.
You are the most biased pig on this side of the forums, any thread with GPU's, you are full on PRO AMD.... You have not a single good word to say about anything Nvidia, enjoy your terrible frame pacing, and LACK of leading features. There... i can be an ass too, but i try not to be, i see this from a none bias stand point, unlike you.[QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]
you need to take your own advice and 'get over it'. As postmortem said, clock for clock the 7000 series is faster, plus more vram and bigger bus = better value. I don't even know why you're getting upset about this, its already a well established fact going all the way back to the beginning that ATI and now AMD generally offeres better bang for buck than nvidia. People have their own reasons for buying nvidia, such as physx and cuda. As for me I don't fall for gimmicks that easily :D
blaznwiipspman1
its no secret I favour AMD, but I always buy products from the company saving me benjamins $$, that is my bottom line. I have purchased nvidia graphics cards before, the last one was a palit 460 gtx.
Still what I said was true, which is probably what bothers you. Maybe you enjoy having the nvidia stick up there, I dont know.
Buys a mid range 460, compares that as a product against the 7970.
The rest is pure immaturity due to me catching your fallicy.
[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]
[QUOTE="AMD655"] You are the most biased pig on this side of the forums, any thread with GPU's, you are full on PRO AMD.... You have not a single good word to say about anything Nvidia, enjoy your terrible frame pacing, and LACK of leading features. There... i can be an ass too, but i try not to be, i see this from a none bias stand point, unlike you.AMD655
its no secret I favour AMD, but I always buy products from the company saving me benjamins $$, that is my bottom line. I have purchased nvidia graphics cards before, the last one was a palit 460 gtx.
Still what I said was true, which is probably what bothers you. Maybe you enjoy having the nvidia stick up there, I dont know.
Buys a mid range 460, compares that as a product against the 7970.
The rest is pure immaturity due to me catching your fallicy.
the 460 was an excellent bang for buck card, it could overclock well and keep up with the highest end cards in that gen. The 7970 is the only other card that offered as good bang for buck. I got 3 free games at a $160 value, plus the card itself for $300. That was almost 8 months back, before the 700 series even released.
[QUOTE="AMD655"]
[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]
its no secret I favour AMD, but I always buy products from the company saving me benjamins $$, that is my bottom line. I have purchased nvidia graphics cards before, the last one was a palit 460 gtx.
Still what I said was true, which is probably what bothers you. Maybe you enjoy having the nvidia stick up there, I dont know.
blaznwiipspman1
Buys a mid range 460, compares that as a product against the 7970.
The rest is pure immaturity due to me catching your fallicy.
the 460 was an excellent bang for buck card, it could overclock well and keep up with the highest end cards in that gen. The 7970 is the only other card that offered as good bang for buck. I got 3 free games at a $160 value, plus the card itself for $300. That was almost 8 months back, before the 700 series even released.
Right..... And the fact you miss that the 770 released cheaper than 680, outperforming both Radeon 7970 and 680 across the board, yet you still harp on about the 384-bit bus and Vram crap. I will tell you this, i have never ran out of Vram on a GTX 480 at 1080p, not even once in any single game out there. On the other hand my 780's offer significant bang for buch vs the TITAN, and sure as hell smack 7970's a new one... The 7970 is a fantastic card, but you talk drivel about Nvidia to up the card you chose to purchase, stop doing this, and people make take you more seriously.For my next build, I'm going to go with whichever company has better support for 3D games on the Oculus Rift. So, I'll likely be getting an nVidia card, unless AMD invests more money in their 3D drivers, which I highly doubt. We'll see, though...superclocked
Good point! I'm looking forward for the Oculus Rift.
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