Is Morrowind still awesome? How about Gothic 3 or Risen? and Fallout 3?

I've never played Morrowind and I want an awesome game. I have $100 and and as one of the games I'm getting, I'm considering Morrowind. So can anybody tell me if Morrowind is still awesome and BTW I know how to mod. Also which is better Gothic 3 or Risen? One more thing I'm considering Fallout 3 GOTY but the prob is that I've played it for the ps3 and I might get bored of it fast, so guys please help me on this.

Morrowind is always awesome. Make sure you get the Wrye Mash mod tool if you decide to add mods to it.

I don't know what you're expecting, but this is a good thing to read if you know anything at all about Oblivion:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Morrowind_for_Oblivion_Players

I already have Oblivion.

I already have Oblivion.

sebas117

The page I linked to compares them. They really are quite different. I'm just trying to make sure you don't end up disappointed. :) I prefer unmodded Morrowind immensely over unmodded Oblivion, but for many, especially those who played Oblivion first, Morrowind can seem too... well, I can't think of a good word for it, but maybe "old-fashioned".

Haven't done much of anything in Gothic 3, though I got it because I saw it compared to Morrowind at some point.

Morrowind = awesome and better then Oblivion

Risen = Awesome

Gothic3 = Fantastic since the latest updates... when it first came out it was pretty bad, but with all the new patches its been awesome!

Morrowind is a great game....I'm going to play it again now, bought the GotY Edition for like $3 at the end of the year off Steam :o

The combat in Morrowind ruined it for me. Other than that, it was way more immersive than Oblivion, although I still prefer Oblivion mods better and rather play that game instead

Morrowind was never awesome. In fact, it is one of the most overhyped pieces of mediocrity ever foisted on the consumer. The game is crushingly dull. Combat is bland, levelling is unbalanced, NPCs have zero personality, quests are simplistic fetch and carry, and you actions have zero repercussions on the game world.

Avoid it at all costs.

If you want to play a newer game, Risen is great. It's more focused than Gothic 3. You'll miss out on the amazing mods and character customization if you choose it over Oblivion or Morrowind, but Risen is a solid rpg game without mods. It was my favorite rpg of 2009.

Wait for New Vegas and buy Dragon Age instead :P

Morrowind was never awesome. In fact, it is one of the most overhyped pieces of mediocrity ever foisted on the consumer. The game is crushingly dull. Combat is bland, levelling is unbalanced, NPCs have zero personality, quests are simplistic fetch and carry, and you actions have zero repercussions on the game world.

Avoid it at all costs.bogaty

I wouldn't even bother reading this dude's post. He clearly has no concept of the game he is talking about.

Would buy Morrowind first. I've heard some decent things about Risen. Heard terrible things about Gothic 3. And Fallout 3 was not what it's hyped up to be.

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Morrowind was never awesome. In fact, it is one of the most overhyped pieces of mediocrity ever foisted on the consumer. The game is crushingly dull. Combat is bland, levelling is unbalanced, NPCs have zero personality, quests are simplistic fetch and carry, and you actions have zero repercussions on the game world.

Avoid it at all costs.DasVolks

I wouldn't even bother reading this dude's post. He clearly has no concept of the game he is talking about.

Would buy Morrowind first. I've heard some decent things about Risen. Heard terrible things about Gothic 3. And Fallout 3 was not what it's hyped up to be.

Yeah, clueless. I'm more impressed with Morrowind today, than I was with it in 2002. It truly holds it's own...it's a very great game in a truly unique world. Throw in all the graphical and environmental mods and you have a gem.

Still, for the newcomer, games like Risen would be much easier to get into. Mods can be overwhelming if you are new to them.

I heard Gothic 3 has a lot of bugs and glitches.NoctisCaelum52

Community patches have fixed those, finally making the game stable.

Morrowind - Great Game + Great Soundtrack + Graphics Enhancement Mods = Excellent I heard Gothic 3 has a lot of bugs and glitches.NoctisCaelum52

When the game first came out yes thsi was true....

But since then there has been some AMAZING community patches that have fixed things up and it now runs great and is alot of fun to play

Morrowind was never awesome. In fact, it is one of the most overhyped pieces of mediocrity ever foisted on the consumer. The game is crushingly dull. Combat is bland, levelling is unbalanced, NPCs have zero personality, quests are simplistic fetch and carry, and you actions have zero repercussions on the game world.

Avoid it at all costs.

bogaty

way-off base!

you should get Morrowind GotY Edition and install these simple mods:

Daggerfall music Pack (adds 7 music pieces from Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall to Morrowind, trust me, you need the variety)

Fair Magicka Regen(this allows you to recover mana at a slow rate, as opposed to not at all, VERY usefull)

Morrowind is a peace of art! I was playing it for more than a year and still didn't solve all the missions and reveal the all continent (with all the expansion packs).

I would really recommend on using mods, there are lots of them and they are really expanding the experience.

I remember the Giants mod, Wilderness mod, the UT mod was awesome!!

About risen, very good game, not that polished, but better then the Gothic series.

Ugh dont buy morrowind its really boing and hardbuy elder scrolls oblivion instead its so much more fun and enjoyable

Ugh dont buy morrowind its really boing and hardbuy elder scrolls oblivion instead its so much more fun and enjoyable

Darksonic666

haha I'm certain you just said that to stir up the pot. I can tell by the way you worded things.

Is Gothic 3 worth the $15?

Morrowind was never awesome. In fact, it is one of the most overhyped pieces of mediocrity ever foisted on the consumer. The game is crushingly dull. Combat is bland, levelling is unbalanced, NPCs have zero personality, quests are simplistic fetch and carry, and you actions have zero repercussions on the game world.

Avoid it at all costs.

bogaty

Is Gothic 3 worth the $15?

sebas117

Morrowind is still as amazing and fun to play as it was in 2002.

Gothic 3is a great game, but not as brilliant as the first two Gothic.

Risen is almost as good as the first two Gothic in the first half, but it's a little worse than Gothic 3 in the second half.

Fallout 3 is the weakest RPG of that list, but it's a fun game to play.

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Ugh dont buy morrowind its really boing and hardbuy elder scrolls oblivion instead its so much more fun and enjoyable

haha I'm certain you just said that to stir up the pot. I can tell by the way you worded things.

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Ugh dont buy morrowind its really boing and hardbuy elder scrolls oblivion instead its so much more fun and enjoyable

Darksonic666

haha I'm certain you just said that to stir up the pot. I can tell by the way you worded things.

Same with me. Morrowind was a nicely designed bit of geography that the game devs forgot to populate with anything in the way of personalities, story, or interaction. On top of that they lobotomized the Daggerfall engine in order to appeal to the console jockeys. Oblivion, despite begin even further stripped of choice, was a much better game. Gothic III is still much better than either of them.

I agree for the most part that Oblivion is a better game than Morrowind, but there were parts of Morrowind that would have been nice to see in Oblivion - like functioning forts and the plethora of towns and villages that populated Morrowind.

Risen is a great game

Gothic 3 is a great game

Fallout 3 is a great game.

In fact - you can't go wrong with any of them, including Morrowind

I prefer Morrowind over Oblivion and think it (Morrowind) is definitely the better game, but anyone who's disappointed with any aspect of either, and who also owns the PC version, can mod either game to the point that they'll like it. Try TESNexus and PlanetElderScrolls for mods.

Same with me. Morrowind was a nicely designed bit of geography that the game devs forgot to populate with anything in the way of personalities, story, or interaction. On top of that they lobotomized the Daggerfall engine in order to appeal to the console jockeys. Oblivion, despite begin even further stripped of choice, was a much better game. Gothic III is still much better than either of them.

bogaty

Also I don't know what kind of interaction you're speaking of. There are quests where you have to follow people around and you spend 30 minutes watching them sweep the same square for 10 ingame hours. Theres also the urgency of going to Kvatch where it doesn't matter if you show up 2 miinutes after you get the news or 100 real life hours (which is countless game time) you will see the same thing happening.

I would take a game with poor combat and older graphics over a game with less spells, less factions, a randomly generated generic world, leveled creatures, no reason for exploration, less weapons/armor, no reason for role playing (you can become head of the mages guild without casting a single spell.) and no reprocussions for role playing (in morrowind if you pissed off a rival family, faction then you won't be able to join them ever.)

There are mods for Morrowind that make the NPCs more interesting and populate the world more...there are no mods for Oblivion that make it a better role playing experience.

There are mods for Morrowind that make the NPCs more interesting and populate the world more...there are no mods for Oblivion that make it a better role playing experience.smerlus

[QUOTE="smerlus"]There are mods for Morrowind that make the NPCs more interesting and populate the world more...there are no mods for Oblivion that make it a better role playing experience.dakan45

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[QUOTE="smerlus"]There are mods for Morrowind that make the NPCs more interesting and populate the world more...there are no mods for Oblivion that make it a better role playing experience.smerlus

[QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Ehhh, no just no by all means no.

dakan45

Basically if you want direction and "quest helper" type systems Oblivion is your game, Morrowind on the other hand drops you in the world and forces you to figure it out.

Morrowind is vastly superior IMO, the world was more custom and the unique items were hand placed and in unique locations... Oblivion just felt drab and copy/paste. Morrowind music is amazing in comparison as well.

Now, combine the combat system from Oblivion with the depth and choice in Morrowind and that would be an amazing game.

So basically:

Morrowind is for the more hard core open world RPG fan

Oblivion is for the hybrid action/rpg fan that likes a little more direction in their game

50 hours in Morrowind is far better and provides that "epic" feeling.

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="smerlus"] you're right. there are mods that fix the leveling but it doesn't make any of the story/factions more interestinghaberman13

Basically if you want direction and "quest helper" type systems Oblivion is your game, Morrowind on the other hand drops you in the world and forces you to figure it out.

Morrowind is vastly superior IMO, the world was more custom and the unique items were hand placed and in unique locations... Oblivion just felt drab and copy/paste. Morrowind music is amazing in comparison as well.

Now, combine the combat system from Oblivion with the depth and choice in Morrowind and that would be an amazing game.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"] The factions in mororwind were the same as oblivion, "well designed sidequests" and by that i mean that they were better than the sidequests of other games such mass effect. SPOILERS The story? It was not much about the story as for what the story was about. A cult trying to take down the empire and opening hellgates under the name of lord Dagon was definetly a unique idea for a medieval rpg. Just google Dagon and cthulhu mythos. Also the developers add epic quests early i the game to immerse the player and make him keep playig. The intro was epic, you meet the emperor, he is assasinated and you have to find his son and take him to cloud ruler temple, plus close the hellgate in Kvatch. On the other hand in morrowind the begining was boring as hell with pretty basic things. I just got deathbored and felt no sense of epicness overal.dakan45

Basically if you want direction and "quest helper" type systems Oblivion is your game, Morrowind on the other hand drops you in the world and forces you to figure it out.

Morrowind is vastly superior IMO, the world was more custom and the unique items were hand placed and in unique locations... Oblivion just felt drab and copy/paste. Morrowind music is amazing in comparison as well.

Now, combine the combat system from Oblivion with the depth and choice in Morrowind and that would be an amazing game.

The Oblivion land and dungeons were created by a land generator, Morrowind was quite literally hand created. This becomes obvious the more you explore.

I understand your feeling though, Oblivion did have the combat nailed. I consider myself a hardcore RPG fan, so I love the "dropped off, now figure it out" idea, in fact the lack of that in Oblivion made me drop the game prematurely.

The factions in mororwind were the same as oblivion, "well designed sidequests" and by that i mean that they were better than the sidequests of other games such mass effect. SPOILERS The story? It was not much about the story as for what the story was about. A cult trying to take down the empire and opening hellgates under the name of lord Dagon was definetly a unique idea for a medieval rpg. Just google Dagon and cthulhu mythos. Also the developers add epic quests early i the game to immerse the player and make him keep playig. The intro was epic, you meet the emperor, he is assasinated and you have to find his son and take him to cloud ruler temple, plus close the hellgate in Kvatch. On the other hand in morrowind the begining was boring as hell with pretty basic things. I just got deathbored and felt no sense of epicness overal.dakan45

Honestly i dive into the water in morrowind and i find a dungeon. nothing impressive just another dungeon like all the others. Or you are reffering to unique items found in those dungeons?dakan45

Quite literally everything is hand placed, so its worth searching the entire world for random powerful items.

In Oblivion, the dungeons were generated by an algorithm that placed a % chance to find something in the last chest of the dungeon, which made it feel like Diablo to me where I could just farm one area and find new things all the time.. it made the game feel cheap to me. I hear there are statically placed items, but I don't know how to differentiate between the static and generated.

The dungeons were the same way (physical layout), in Oblivion they are generated, so they all feel the same ... In morrowind, while they may have the same textures, the layout was completely unique to each dungeon.

Other little things, like the homoginizing of the armor, removal of weapons and skills and the hack job on the factions made Oblivion feel just cheap.

Honestly i dive into the water in morrowind and i find a dungeon. nothing impressive just another dungeon like all the others. Or you are reffering to unique items found in those dungeons?dakan45

Morrowind is an amazing, beautiful, deep game. i really need to find my copy and GOTY discs as well...:(

Morrowind + MGE brings the game into 2010 and retains the epic feeling it had in 2002. Still one of the best games around 8 years later lol.

Morrowind is always awesome.

Angry_Beaver

^^ This.

Also, you should at least check out Galsiah's Character Leveling mod before you start a game. IMO it makes the games so much more fun, and so much more immersive. My one qualm about TES games are their character progression system, and how it feels very unnatural. This mod changes it to make your character progress much more logically, and you will not have to rely on paper+pen to know when you'll have to sleep in order to get the max bonus' for leveling.

So basically:

Morrowind is for the more hard core open world RPG fan

Oblivion is for the hybrid action/rpg fan that likes a little more direction in their game

50 hours in Morrowind is far better and provides that "epic" feeling.

haberman13

They're both relatively shallow, reatime clickfests with very little in the way of roleplaying, but at least Oblivion owns up to it and the designers tailored the game around the fact.