ATI Radeon Xpress 200m: will it play...

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#1 ahmedkandil
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im looking to get battlefiled 2 or battlefiled 2142  and im looking to play it online. my cpu and ram etc are good to go but im not sure about my card. this guy says itll play fine: (on the link control+F BF2)

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/post_msg.php?board_id=314159272

but some people say it wont...i figure that if it runs bf2 itll run 2142 cause they both use the same engine.

im using it at 128mb at the moment but when i get more ram im gonna up it to 256mb

whats also strange is that some people say its good others say it absolutly sucks.

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#2 9mmSpliff
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You can get away with it, but its gonna be played on low @ 1024x768. It does suck for a GPU and its in the middle for intergrated graphics. Now why some say it wont run BF2142 is cause its an upgraded engine. So same engine, just with some extras.

 Look at Half Life 2 for instance. HL2 looks great, but HL2:E1 looks better. SWAT 4 looks awesome on the Unreal 2 engine, but looks okay in Unreal Tournament 2004. So you would have better frames on the non upgraded engine. You will still run it, cause you meet the standards, but you will be slower then BF2.

BTW, dont bump it up to 256mb, cause that GPU is too weak to handle 256mb, infact 128mb is probably pushing it.  Since it uses system memory, you will want as much system memory focused on the loading times and so on.  Cause BF2/2142 use a good amount of Memory.  So since the GPU is too weak to handle the 256mb, keep it at 128mb and save the rest for your system Memory in games
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#3 ahmedkandil
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You can get away with it, but its gonna be played on low @ 1024x768. It does suck for a GPU and its in the middle for intergrated graphics. Now why some say it wont run BF2142 is cause its an upgraded engine. So same engine, just with some extras.

 Look at Half Life 2 for instance. HL2 looks great, but HL2:E1 looks better. SWAT 4 looks awesome on the Unreal 2 engine, but looks okay in Unreal Tournament 2004. So you would have better frames on the non upgraded engine. You will still run it, cause you meet the standards, but you will be slower then BF2.

BTW, dont bump it up to 256mb, cause that GPU is too weak to handle 256mb, infact 128mb is probably pushing it.  Since it uses system memory, you will want as much system memory focused on the loading times and so on.  Cause BF2/2142 use a good amount of Memory.  So since the GPU is too weak to handle the 256mb, keep it at 128mb and save the rest for your system Memory in games
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stragley enogh the game looks pretty good even on low lol and do you think i can get away playing titan mode on 2142?
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#4 osusfaith
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I have the same integrated graphics, but i have it bumped up to 256mb. I also have 2 gigs of ram in my computer (well, 1.75 gigs cuz 256 is now alotted for memory) think mine would play those games alrite?
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#5 ahmedkandil
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[QUOTE="osusfaith"]I have the same integrated graphics, but i have it bumped up to 256mb. I also have 2 gigs of ram in my computer (well, 1.75 gigs cuz 256 is now alotted for memory) think mine would play those games alrite?

well...check this link its not much info but you get the idea http://www.xfire.com/profile/maverickfox1/
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#6 ahmedkandil
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the dude on there is using the same card and he plays online and been playin for a while....il contact him and see what setings he uses
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#7 ahmedkandil
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please people i really need an answer!!!!!
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#8 ahmedkandil
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ok i got bf2 and i can run it on the lowest possible settings 128mb vid ram and 380mb system ram! i even play 64 player matches online! im still gonna try and get more ram as im lagging like hell and the load times are insane also after a several hours of plat it says virtual memory is full then i have to restart my computer. it may seem like alot of problems but its worth it!
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#9 ahmedkandil
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ok now i have one last question:

i looked at the hardware performence guide for bf2142. it says i can run it with the ati x300. the one i have is quite similar to the x300. i have a intel celeron M 1.7ghz which is faster than a p4. this game isnt processor dependant so im all set to go with that. and i now have 1280mb ram pc4200 so im all set to go with that. the last thig is my chipset. ive got that bumped upto 256mb and i have bf2 and can run it fine. what do you guys think? will it be playable?

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#10 frost_mourne13
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dude, do you have a Laptop? Anyway, if you can run BF2, you can run 2142, but it won't look pretty.
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#11 muppet1010
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why not give your self a massive paging file if your desperately low for ram??
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#12 ahmedkandil
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why not give your self a massive paging file if your desperately low for ram??muppet1010
dunno what you mean by paging file but i DID get an extra 1gb ram chip :D
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#13 ahmedkandil
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dude, do you have a Laptop? Anyway, if you can run BF2, you can run 2142, but it won't look pretty.frost_mourne13
well the game looks good even on low lol and yes i do have a laptop. appearently ati's mobile vidoe cards are currently the best out there. im using a toshiba m70pro which cost me 1800 nzd.
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#14 frost_mourne13
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apparently...
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#15 quadraleap
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I used to have an X600 and I would get anomolies playing BF2 (and even BF1942) even on low to meduim settings. It was annoying. You might be able to play it but it won't be any fun if you have to see the screen tearing, etc.

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#16 r3351925
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my friend has a x200 built in gpu and it runs the game fine 800*600 medium, 1 gb ram, he can run it on 1024*768 low without a single choppy frame. he has a p4 3.4 ht. Dont worry it'll work fine.
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#17 ahmedkandil
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my friend has a x200 built in gpu and it runs the game fine 800*600 medium, 1 gb ram, he can run it on 1024*768 low without a single choppy frame. he has a p4 3.4 ht. Dont worry it'll work fine.r3351925
hehe you just made my day :)
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#18 Baselerd
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Umm,
I used to have a laptop with 200m and running BF2 on it was frustrating as hell! It was athlon64 3200+, Radeon xpress 200m, and 512 MB ram. The ram mighta been the bigger problem though... either way Im much happier now :)
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#19 Jiggly_Wiggly
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ok now i have one last question:

i looked at the hardware performence guide for bf2142. it says i can run it with the ati x300. the one i have is quite similar to the x300. i have a intel celeron M 1.7ghz which is faster than a p4. this game isnt processor dependant so im all set to go with that. and i now have 1280mb ram pc4200 so im all set to go with that. the last thig is my chipset. ive got that bumped upto 256mb and i have bf2 and can run it fine. what do you guys think? will it be playable?

ahmedkandil
Celeron? is terrible for gaming it is probably worse than a p4 @ 2.4 ghz.
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#20 ahmedkandil
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Celeron? is terrible for gaming it is probably worse than a p4 @ 2.4 ghz.

celeron m is faster but has a lower clock speed
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#21 ahmedkandil
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my friend has a x200 built in gpu and it runs the game fine 800*600 medium, 1 gb ram, he can run it on 1024*768 low without a single choppy frame. he has a p4 3.4 ht. Dont worry it'll work fine.r3351925
ok people its time......i have to decide now if i should get it or not (2142 i have bf2 and run it fine) what do you say?
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#22 Helpomer
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I also have a lappy (Core Duo, 1gb ram) with this gpu, I can run most of the games I play with medium settings or so, even Need For Speed: Carbon works with 1024x768 with medium settings.

It won't run games like Oblivion, well, it can but the framerate will be like 10-15 fps/s.

The gpu itself is very underrated, most of people think it's weak because it's the same as x300 :P

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#23 ahmedkandil
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I also have a lappy (Core Duo, 1gb ram) with this gpu, I can run most of the games I play with medium settings or so, even Need For Speed: Carbon works with 1024x768 with medium settings.

It won't run games like Oblivion, well, it can but the framerate will be like 10-15 fps/s.

The gpu itself is very underrated, most of people think it's weak because it's the same as x300 :P

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i know what you mean all the peple think its $&!+ but its not all that bad
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#24 ahmedkandil
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damn it! i tried to install drivers from amd website so i had to uninstall my old drivers.......but the ones i downloaded didnt work...so now im stuck with only standard vga drivers that dont even let me adjust settings properly. so i got the catalyst control centre and now im back to square 1. the drivers from the amd website dont work....any ideas?
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#25 DJ_Lae
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If you're curious about rough comparisons, here's a list of various notebook cards' 3DMark06 scores.

Needless to say it becomes fairly obvious that the 200m can only run games at the lowest of settings and resolutions. Apparently Intel's 950 integrated video is faster.

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#26 ahmedkandil
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no way! my sister has an intel integrated chipset and she dosent even have pixel shader support on hers! she also cant run FEAR.....