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#1 Decko5
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electric and ethanol powered cars?

pros and cons?

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#2 ElectronicMagic
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I think they suck. They are just a substitute for electric cars. I wish they would bring back the EV1.
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#3 thriteenthmonke
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Electric- good

Hybrid- not as good

ethanol- no thanks

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#4 FragStains
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My thoughts?

Make them affordable, reliable, aesthetically pleasing, and efficient and I'll buy. Pretty simple, I think.

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#5 darksword1123
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My thoughts?

Make them affordable, reliable, aesthetically pleasing, and efficient and I'll buy. Pretty simple, I think.

FragStains
Pretty much explains it.
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#6 Decko5
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[QUOTE="FragStains"]

My thoughts?

Make them affordable, reliable, aesthetically pleasing, and efficient and I'll buy. Pretty simple, I think.

darksword1123

Pretty much explains it.

are they far from being there yet?

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#7 MrHoboX
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Gret idea, ugly as hell design
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#8 Hoobinator
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Well until they start'a mak'um them in SUV's I ain't buyin' any. Hybrid, schmybrid, SUV or Pick-Up that's all I care about, maybe a Hummer variety as well for the weekend.

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#9 Ripcurl530
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My parents have a Toyota Prius and a Toyota Highlander, and I actually love them. The Prius can get over 50mpg if you know how to drive it, and I think it's pretty aesthetically pleasing. There are some drawbacks that you wouldn't think about though. One being how quiet they are. You literally cannot tell whether they are on sometimes even if you are right next to the car. This can be bad news for animals or even unaware pedestrians:shock:! If I had the money though, I would definitely get a Prius. You save so freakin much on gas!
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#10 Ripcurl530
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Hoobinator, the Toyota Highlander is an SUV. You should check it out. I'm sure there are other brands of hybrid SUV's as well.
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#11 Hoobinator
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Hoobinator, the Toyota Highlander is an SUV. You should check it out. I'm sure there are other brands of hybrid SUV's as well.Ripcurl530

Pfft, I'mma thinking only of a Hummer Hybrid. Anything less just wouldn't be American of me.

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#12 ttobba07
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Hybrids are good in theory but not efficient enough yet. Until cars get to 100mpg on ethanol or another alternative fuel I will not consider it. I have my 1998 monte carlo modified to 38mpg and I will continue to modify it as long as more efficient stuff compatable with it come out. I even plan on converting it to run on new fuels. Just love the body design.
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#13 Ryeferd
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I don't understand why they can't make them look like normal cars so people would buy them...
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#14 ziggy87
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GET A HYPBRID!!!!!!!

they are awesome

even though they are a couple grand more you will save so much on gas

if you use it for 2 years you will have the money back that you spent extra

also dont buy into the GM hybrids. they are a scam and the electric motor only powers the a/c and radio the gas mileage is still horrible

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#15 omfg_its_dally
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I don't like them right now, because yesterday I had to do a big project on them for science class.
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hybrids cost too much money and aren't worth it in gas savings for years. producing ethanol causes shortages in corn for food. electric cars need to be charged somehow so plugging them into the wall and recharging them using energy produced by coal power plants kind of defeats the purpose of gasoline free. some of them are so tiny they, and everyone inside, would be destroyed in an accident.
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#17 club-sandwich
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you guys can't hang out with me because you don't have hybrid cars. :0
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#18 ziggy87
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hybrids cost too much money and aren't worth it in gas savings for years. producing ethanol causes shortages in corn for food. electric cars need to be charged somehow so plugging them into the wall and recharging them using energy produced by coal power plants kind of defeats the purpose of gasoline free. some of them are so tiny they, and everyone inside, would be destroyed in an accident.shoeman12

actually youre wrong their

i did it in class today

it takes roughly 2 years for the costs to equal out (for the honda civic hybrid)

its around 4000 more minus the 2000 government rebate

they are definately worth your money and they save the environment!!!!!!!!!!

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Hybrids cause more damage to the environment than gas cars do. The mining for the nickel-cadmium is terrible for the environment and the processes that go into making the batteries themselves put out more pollution than a single car could ever hope to.
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#20 KillaHalo2o9
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Ethanol is just driving up food prices.
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#21 KG86
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I don't understand why they can't make them look like normal cars so people would buy them...Ryeferd

I agree, I wouldn't be caught dead in one of them now.

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[QUOTE="Ryeferd"]I don't understand why they can't make them look like normal cars so people would buy them...KG86

I agree, I wouldn't be caught dead in one of them now.

They do have them in normal models. My parents just bought one and it looks exactly the same as a regular car. :|

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Hybrids cause more damage to the environment than gas cars do. The mining for the nickel-cadmium is terrible for the environment and the processes that go into making the batteries themselves put out more pollution than a single car could ever hope to. famicommander

oh wow that is a great point

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#24 pseudodog07
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Hybrids are a good idea. A better idea is just driving more sensible autos.
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#25 iam2green
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I don't understand why they can't make them look like normal cars so people would buy them...Ryeferd

YES!!! i think they r ugly. i want a hypbrid that is sporty and can drive fast. i drive a scion tc that gets about 25/29 miles to a gallon it cost so much $35 for a full tank.

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#26 darkIink
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Ethanol is just driving up food prices.KillaHalo2o9
exactly! why are we doing this? I see sliced bread ON SALE for $2.50!
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#27 g-unit248
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they are a step in the right direction...
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Hate them Ill stick with my pick-ups
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#29 trapper94
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Ethanol is just driving up food prices.darkIink
exactly! why are we doing this? I see sliced bread ON SALE for $2.50!

Dark link this is off topic but your McCain video is making me think. First off he dosent want to stay there for 100 more if we have to we will he said. and we only been there for 5 years not 8.
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#30 Rattlesnake_8
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My thoughts?

Make them affordable, reliable, aesthetically pleasing, and efficient and I'll buy. Pretty simple, I think.

FragStains

I agree, and most people would buy them but right now they the price is to high, they look bad etc.

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Aptera FTW

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[QUOTE="Ryeferd"]I don't understand why they can't make them look like normal cars so people would buy them...KG86

I agree, I wouldn't be caught dead in one of them now.

What hybrids are you talking about? You know there's a Camry hybrid, Altima hybrid, Civic hybrid, SUV hybrids, etc... not just Prius. I don't think the Prius is that ugly either. It's just a thing to take you places after all.
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[QUOTE="Ripcurl530"]Hoobinator, the Toyota Highlander is an SUV. You should check it out. I'm sure there are other brands of hybrid SUV's as well.Hoobinator

Pfft, I'mma thinking only of a Hummer Hybrid. Anything less just wouldn't be American of me.

your kidding right....:|

if you want a gas guzzling hybrid you dont have to wait for a hummer hybrid look at the new tahoe hybrid. its a joke

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#34 FUBAR24
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[QUOTE="Ryeferd"]I don't understand why they can't make them look like normal cars so people would buy them...iam2green

YES!!! i think they r ugly. i want a hypbrid that is sporty and can drive fast. i drive a scion tc that gets about 25/29 miles to a gallon it cost so much $35 for a full tank.

ok considering EVERY hybrid on the market right now looks EXACTLY the same as its gas counter-part that argument is null and void. the only thing that MIGHT be SLIGHTLY different are the rims/wheels

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ethanol we can all agree is not efficient because you cat transport via pipeline so the use of cars causes more pollution. plus it raises the price of food which is more important than gas

I have also heard hybrids may cause more pollution than regular gas cars but i cant confirm tha.

Eventually though, the price of oil will be so expensive and the alternative fuels will be more efficient because of advancements in research that it will make sense to use them. the free market will decide

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#36 darkIink
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[QUOTE="darkIink"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Ethanol is just driving up food prices.trapper94
exactly! why are we doing this? I see sliced bread ON SALE for $2.50!

Dark link this is off topic but your McCain video is making me think. First off he dosent want to stay there for 100 more if we have to we will he said. and we only been there for 5 years not 8.

well if people can use obama's reverend as an excuse against him I can use mccain's OWN WORDS against him. All's fair in war :P
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Ethanol is just driving up food prices.darkIink
exactly! why are we doing this? I see sliced bread ON SALE for $2.50!

Oil is driving up food prices as well... so...

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My thoughts?

Make them affordable, reliable, aesthetically pleasing, and efficient and I'll buy. Pretty simple, I think.

FragStains

Toyota or Honda have a nice looking hybrid of one of their mainstay cars. Like 46mpg too.

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#39 ThaSod
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I own a Prius and I love it. I actually paid less than I would have for a comparable conventional car because of all the tax credits I got on it. I didn't pay state taxes in '05 and '06 because of it and I still had a little left to make this year's bill smaller.

So, really, the argument that they cost too much is blown way out of proportion.

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useless no power no punch just a marketing scheme
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#41 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Pros - Fuel efficent. Good for environment.

Cons - Owners frequently get wedgies.

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#42 Napster06
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They're cool. I mean c'mon, do you really need to use all that horsepower on the freeway?
But a big NO for ethanol. I'm feeling hungry because of it!
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#43 ThaSod
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I've taken my Prius to 100MPH so the 'it doesn't go fast' argument doesn't cut it either.
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#44 quadraleap
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Pros: they are more efficient.

Cons: You will probably need one when gas hits $10 a gallon (as it probably should be in the first place given its role in the world).

Other than that I wouldnt mind one for the tax deduction, but I'd rather have a muscle car from the 50's or something.

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Hybrids cause more damage to the environment than gas cars do. The mining for the nickel-cadmium is terrible for the environment and the processes that go into making the batteries themselves put out more pollution than a single car could ever hope to. famicommander

Hybrids use nickel metal hydride batteries, not nickel-cadmium. The environmental hazards for NiMH batteries is, apparently, much lower than NiCd batteries. Also, do you have any source for your second claim?

And hopefully Li-ion batteries will soon be cost efficient enough to use in hybrids/ev's.

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I've taken my Prius to 100MPH so the 'it doesn't go fast' argument doesn't cut it either.ThaSod

Driving it off a cliff does not count. The acceleration in freefall is from gravity and not the Prius' engine.

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#47 mikeg0788
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I think some of you here need to look at cellulosic ethanol.
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#48 darkIink
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[QUOTE="ThaSod"]I've taken my Prius to 100MPH so the 'it doesn't go fast' argument doesn't cut it either.sonicare

Driving it off a cliff does not count. The acceleration in freefall is from gravity and not the Prius' engine.

hummer supporter? :roll:
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

[QUOTE="ThaSod"]I've taken my Prius to 100MPH so the 'it doesn't go fast' argument doesn't cut it either.darkIink

Driving it off a cliff does not count. The acceleration in freefall is from gravity and not the Prius' engine.

hummer supporter? :roll:

Nope. I don't see how making a joke labels me as a hummer supporter :|

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#50 darkIink
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[QUOTE="darkIink"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

[QUOTE="ThaSod"]I've taken my Prius to 100MPH so the 'it doesn't go fast' argument doesn't cut it either.sonicare

Driving it off a cliff does not count. The acceleration in freefall is from gravity and not the Prius' engine.

hummer supporter? :roll:

Nope. I don't see how making a joke labels me as a hummer supporter :|

lol darklink self-owned