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#1 gaming25
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DBGT is an amazing anime, but it seems like people dont like it because it is not like DBZ. Theyre right, its supposed to be different. Its supposed to pay homage to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. I also find its fights direction a lot more about the struggle, why they fight, and doing something more than "who has teh higher power level". Its a really well written, plot driven story, but since it isnt morelike DBZ, people dont like it.

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.....I'm speechless.

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You need to stop making topics about nothing.
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#4 gaming25
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.....I'm speechless.

Its true. People say plot holes make the story bad, but that doesnt make it a bad show.
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#5 ShadowDragon78
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I liked it.....but not as much as Dragonball, 2nd would be Dragonball Z.
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#6 XileLord
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I'll bite......DBGT isn't cannon so it doesn't matter. Also people don't hate on it simply because it's different than DBZ but because it ****ing sucks and destroys good characters. The plot is incredibly lame, goku turning into a kid was the worst thing they could have possibly done outside of destroying mostly every other character in the series. I really don't know how people could sit through it and watch it, even the fights were hilariously bad.

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#7 gaming25
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I'll bite......DBGT isn't cannon so it doesn't matter. Also people don't hate on it simply because it's different than DBZ but because it ****ing sucks and destroys good characters. The plot is incredibly lame, goku turning into a kid was the worst thing they could have possibly done outside of destroying mostly every other character in the series. I really don't know how people could sit through it and watch it, even the fights were hilariously bad.

XileLord

The fights? Youre joking, the fights were very well done, probably better than DBZ. DBGT Bebi fight sequence is incredible.

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#8 Gaming-Planet
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They are opinions.

Tbh, when I was little I stopped during GT. Got boring and plain.

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#9 Hexagon_777
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I still haven't seen Dragon Ball GT after all these years. I should get to it sometime and form my own opinion.
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#10 karasill
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I'll be honest. I gave DBGT a chance and I actually watched the entire series... It had its moments, I'll give it that. But overall it falls short of DBZ and I think most people woud agree. Do I think DBGT is bad? No... but it's not great either.

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#11 Wasdie  Moderator
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No it's not, it's terrible. Anything after the Cell saga is pure trash and most people don't like the android and cell sagas to begin with.

After Buu things stopped being cannon.

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#12 Bane_09
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I still haven't seen Dragon Ball GT after all these years. I should get to it sometime and form my own opinion.Hexagon_777

Same here, I have only watched a few episodes of it sadly :(

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I'll be honest. I gave DBGT a chance and I actually watched the entire series... It had its moments, I'll give it that. But overall it falls short of DBZ and I think most people woud agree. Do I think DBGT is bad? No... but it's not great either.

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My thoughts exactly. It had some really good moments, but beyond that it fell short.

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#14 ferrari2001
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Dragon Ball: GT sucked. That is not an opinion.
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#16 branketra
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DBGT is an amazing anime, but it seems like people dont like it because it is not like DBZ. Theyre right, its supposed to be different. Its supposed to pay homage to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. I also find its fights direction a lot more about the struggle, why they fight, and doing something more than "who has teh higher power level". Its a really well written, plot driven story, but since it isnt morelike DBZ, people dont like it.

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No, it's because there are inconsistenies in the story. DBZ already has enough as it is. Dragonball is my favorite anime, but I would be lying if I said it didn't have flaws in the story.
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#17 gaming25
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

DBGT is an amazing anime, but it seems like people dont like it because it is not like DBZ. Theyre right, its supposed to be different. Its supposed to pay homage to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. I also find its fights direction a lot more about the struggle, why they fight, and doing something more than "who has teh higher power level". Its a really well written, plot driven story, but since it isnt morelike DBZ, people dont like it.

No, it's because there are inconsistenies in the story. DBZ already has enough as it is. Dragonball is my favorite anime, but I would be lying if I said it didn't have flaws in the story.

DBGT tried to make something new though with the story.
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#18 branketra
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[QUOTE="gaming25"]

The fights? Youre joking, the fights were very well done, probably better than DBZ. DBGT Bebi fight sequence is incredible.

They were good, but not as good as DBZ imo.
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#19 danjammer69
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I just assumed this was some sort of new sexual orientation.

Being DragonBall Z makes it much more lame.

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#20 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

DBGT is an amazing anime, but it seems like people dont like it because it is not like DBZ. Theyre right, its supposed to be different. Its supposed to pay homage to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. I also find its fights direction a lot more about the struggle, why they fight, and doing something more than "who has teh higher power level". Its a really well written, plot driven story, but since it isnt morelike DBZ, people dont like it.

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No, it's because there are inconsistenies in the story. DBZ already has enough as it is. Dragonball is my favorite anime, but I would be lying if I said it didn't have flaws in the story.

DBGT tried to make something new though with the story.

Sure, but they changed established parts of it in the progress. What happened to Gohan being the second most powerful? He just turned into a super saiyan.
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#21 flipin_jackass
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No it's not, it's terrible. Anything after the Cell saga is pure trash and most people don't like the android and cell sagas to begin with.

After Buu things stopped being cannon.

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That's good to hear. I stopped watching at the Cell saga, I think around his 3rd transformation. I've always wondered if I should bother completing the series, I guess not.
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#22 tocool340
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Er....I hate it because it was simply terrible. The character felt nothing like they did in DBZ. Goku in his Saiyan 4 form was a hell lot more cocky than he usually is (And I honestly think he's stronger in his Saiyan 3 form....). The story was bad and the fighting seemed flat. I just didn't like it, especially the crappy ending...
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#23 campzor
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i enjoyed the android 17 / omega shenron and baby battles. Haters gonna hate.
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#24 Martel100
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I just assumed this was some sort of new sexual orientation.

Being DragonBall Z makes it much more lame.

danjammer69
This.
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#25 MacBoomStick
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The thing that I don't like is how they can get even stronger. SS3 was pretty much maxed out and Buu was supposed to be the strongest thing ever... Nope here comes along something even stronger and a stronger SS level.

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#26 branketra
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i enjoyed the android 17 / omega shenron and baby battles. Haters gonna hate.campzor
The battles were good.
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#27 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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I just assumed this was some sort of new sexual orientation.

Being DragonBall Z makes it much more lame.

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Same :lol:

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

No it's not, it's terrible. Anything after the Cell saga is pure trash and most people don't like the android and cell sagas to begin with.

After Buu things stopped being cannon.

Agreed, although back when I gave a damn about DBZ, I did like the Cell Saga too.
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#29 aaronmullan
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No it isn't. After Dragon Ball then DBZ it is an awful continuation that in my mind doesn't exist.
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People don't like it mainly because Pam was the most annoying character they created and she was in the majority of episodes. It was good but not great. Without her the show might of been better

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#31 Wasdie  Moderator
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People don't like it mainly because Pam was the most annoying character they created and she was in the majority of episodes. It was good but not great. Without her the show might of been better

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no, people didn't like it because it had no flow or consistency. They kept pulling bad guys stronger than buu out of nowhere, they gave up on old fighting style and conventions, they gave up on the lore of the world. They just wanted bigger battles and they sacrificed everything to get them.

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#32 gaming25
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[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

People don't like it mainly because Pam was the most annoying character they created and she was in the majority of episodes. It was good but not great. Without her the show might of been better

Wasdie

no, people didn't like it because it had no flow or consistency. They kept pulling bad guys stronger than buu out of nowhere, they gave up on old fighting style and conventions, they gave up on the lore of the world. They just wanted bigger battles and they sacrificed everything to get them.

I do agree that it didnt have as much lore of the world, but their focus wasnt on big battles as it used to be.

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I almost cried and sulked when it said "The End" at the end but then again I was around 8 or 10.
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#34 UprootedDreamer
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I do like DBGT but I prefer the original DB.
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I'll bite......DBGT isn't cannon so it doesn't matter. Also people don't hate on it simply because it's different than DBZ but because it ****ing sucks and destroys good characters. The plot is incredibly lame, goku turning into a kid was the worst thing they could have possibly done outside of destroying mostly every other character in the series. I really don't know how people could sit through it and watch it, even the fights were hilariously bad.

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GT is cannon. Toriyama himself oversaw its creation.

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[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

People don't like it mainly because Pam was the most annoying character they created and she was in the majority of episodes. It was good but not great. Without her the show might of been better

Wasdie

no, people didn't like it because it had no flow or consistency. They kept pulling bad guys stronger than buu out of nowhere, they gave up on old fighting style and conventions, they gave up on the lore of the world. They just wanted bigger battles and they sacrificed everything to get them.

They killed off Piccolo and Krillin. Tien and Chiaotzu aren't anywhere.
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#37 branketra
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[QUOTE="XileLord"]

I'll bite......DBGT isn't cannon so it doesn't matter. Also people don't hate on it simply because it's different than DBZ but because it ****ing sucks and destroys good characters. The plot is incredibly lame, goku turning into a kid was the worst thing they could have possibly done outside of destroying mostly every other character in the series. I really don't know how people could sit through it and watch it, even the fights were hilariously bad.

Dark_Knight6

GT is cannon. Toriyama himself oversaw its creation.

He oversaw its creation but didn't develop the story. So, many don't consider it canon.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="fueled-system"]People don't like it mainly because Pam was the most annoying character they created and she was in the majority of episodes. It was good but not great. Without her the show might of been betterBranKetra
no, people didn't like it because it had no flow or consistency. They kept pulling bad guys stronger than buu out of nowhere, they gave up on old fighting style and conventions, they gave up on the lore of the world. They just wanted bigger battles and they sacrificed everything to get them.

They killed off Piccolo and Krillin. Tien and Chiaotzu aren't anywhere.

The above characters aren't in DBGT? What? :|

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#39 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="XileLord"]

I'll bite......DBGT isn't cannon so it doesn't matter. Also people don't hate on it simply because it's different than DBZ but because it ****ing sucks and destroys good characters. The plot is incredibly lame, goku turning into a kid was the worst thing they could have possibly done outside of destroying mostly every other character in the series. I really don't know how people could sit through it and watch it, even the fights were hilariously bad.

BranKetra

GT is cannon. Toriyama himself oversaw its creation.

He oversaw its creation but didn't develop the story. So, many don't consider it canon.

It's fairly arrogant to deny the canon status of something approved by the series creator simply because it is disliked. Until he says otherwise, it should be considered canon.

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#40 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

GT is cannon. Toriyama himself oversaw its creation.

Dark_Knight6

He oversaw its creation but didn't develop the story. So, many don't consider it canon.

It's fairly arrogant to deny the canon status of something approved by the series creator simply because it is disliked. Until he says otherwise, it should be considered canon.

At face value, I can agree with that. I recall reading in "The Art of Dragonball," Akira Toriyama wrote a note explaining how Dragonball came to be. During the development, he repeatedly wanted to end the story, but fans and other sources (family, job) suggested he continue. Eventually, he pleaded exhaustion at the end of Buu saga, saying he didn't want to do anymore. I guess some people see it was over when he, the creator, decided it was over.
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#41 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]no, people didn't like it because it had no flow or consistency. They kept pulling bad guys stronger than buu out of nowhere, they gave up on old fighting style and conventions, they gave up on the lore of the world. They just wanted bigger battles and they sacrificed everything to get them.Hexagon_777

They killed off Piccolo and Krillin. Tien and Chiaotzu aren't anywhere.

The above characters aren't in DBGT? What? :|

[spoiler] Krillin is killed by Android 17 and Piccolo dies when Bebi Vegeta blows up the earth. He stays because he feels ashamed that he couldn't defend it anymore. He eventually takes over Hell. I don't remember seeing Tien or Chiaotzu once. [/spoiler] It's in spoilers for a reason.

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#42 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"] He oversaw its creation but didn't develop the story. So, many don't consider it canon.

BranKetra

It's fairly arrogant to deny the canon status of something approved by the series creator simply because it is disliked. Until he says otherwise, it should be considered canon.

At face value, I can agree with that. I recall reading in "The Art of Dragonball," Akira Toriyama wrote a note explaining how Dragonball came to be. During the development, he repeatedly wanted to end the story, but fans and other sources (family, job) suggested he continue. Eventually, he pleaded exhaustion at the end of Buu saga, saying he didn't want to do anymore. I guess some people see it was over when he, the creator, decided it was over.

He decided it was over several times. But he was convinced to continue it and eventually allowed others to continue it under his supervision. I know GT is fairly horrible, but until he makes something else that rewrites the events after Dragon Ball Z, I don't really see how you can say it isn't canon.

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#43 The_Zoid
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Could never get into it. After Z it just seemed like a big letdown.
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#44 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

It's fairly arrogant to deny the canon status of something approved by the series creator simply because it is disliked. Until he says otherwise, it should be considered canon.

Dark_Knight6

At face value, I can agree with that. I recall reading in "The Art of Dragonball," Akira Toriyama wrote a note explaining how Dragonball came to be. During the development, he repeatedly wanted to end the story, but fans and other sources (family, job) suggested he continue. Eventually, he pleaded exhaustion at the end of Buu saga, saying he didn't want to do anymore. I guess some people see it was over when he, the creator, decided it was over.

He decided it was over several times. But he was convinced to continue it and eventually allowed others to continue it under his supervision. I know GT is fairly horrible, but until he makes something else that rewrites the events after Dragon Ball Z, I don't really see how you can say it isn't canon.

Actually, I remember hearing that DBZ will be extended by Toriyama himself. It was a month or so ago.
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The only good thing about DBGT is Super Saiyan 4 design and that's it. And the power difference from the transformation wasn't even that great considering it got pwned by the bad guys right away besides ]Gohan lost all his power, goten and trunks were pathetic fighters, everyone was so downgraded that the only serious guy was Super Saiyan 4 goku and Uub, even Vegeta was not really powerful until the last episodes. They made the Super Saiyan tranformation look like crap whenever they fought bad guys stronger than Buu who kept showing up out of nowhere. It may have been created on Toriyama's legacy but toriyama had nothing to do with GT he only produced it but as far as the story goes he had nothing to do with it. It was a good anime but comparing it to Dragon Ball Z it becomes less than average.
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#46 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]At face value, I can agree with that. I recall reading in "The Art of Dragonball," Akira Toriyama wrote a note explaining how Dragonball came to be. During the development, he repeatedly wanted to end the story, but fans and other sources (family, job) suggested he continue. Eventually, he pleaded exhaustion at the end of Buu saga, saying he didn't want to do anymore. I guess some people see it was over when he, the creator, decided it was over. BranKetra

He decided it was over several times. But he was convinced to continue it and eventually allowed others to continue it under his supervision. I know GT is fairly horrible, but until he makes something else that rewrites the events after Dragon Ball Z, I don't really see how you can say it isn't canon.

Actually, I remember hearing that DBZ will be extended by Toriyama himself. It was a month or so ago.

I remember a rumor about that a few years ago but I've heard nothing since. I think DBZ ended just fine but if he wants to go back to make something that makes GT non-canon, I'm fine with that as well.

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#47 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

He decided it was over several times. But he was convinced to continue it and eventually allowed others to continue it under his supervision. I know GT is fairly horrible, but until he makes something else that rewrites the events after Dragon Ball Z, I don't really see how you can say it isn't canon.

Dark_Knight6

Actually, I remember hearing that DBZ will be extended by Toriyama himself. It was a month or so ago.

I remember a rumor about that a few years ago but I've heard nothing since. I think DBZ ended just fine but if he wants to go back to make something that makes GT non-canon, I'm fine with that as well.

That was probably DBKai, which came out a couple years ago. There are a couple new Dragonball mangas, too. I don't have the new DBZ link, not to mention that the new mangas are about Bardock. So, that doesn't really help. We'll just have to wait and see.
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#48 Dark_Knight6
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All of this is really making me want to go and rewatch Dragon Ball and then maybe Dragon Ball Z. I fear they won't be as good as I remember.

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#49 ruffluffs
Member since 2008 • 1033 Posts

I kinda stopped caring about the series after watching the horrible buu saga.

DBZ has a nostalgic place in my heart but damn if it isnt stupid as hell sometimes

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#50 Gisen
Member since 2008 • 89 Posts

I kind of understand people not considering GT cannon, I do, but to each his own. Though, people who say they consider the BUU SAGA uncannon are so insulting to the creator and ignorant.