Why do all you people hate religions??

[QUOTE="NumCha"]theres no proof in thatTheokhoth

Yes there is.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Abortion has nothing to do with science and embryonic stem cell research is obsolete. You were saying?

Scientific advancements should never, ever be made at the expense of human life. That's not religion; that's simple humanity.

Theokhoth

That won't matter much to the people science kills, now will it?

The majority on this forum is probably 16-20. On your mid teens I think teeangers are strictly anti-religious, because that's a real age where you start rebelling against any association with your parents, and I think it's safe to say that the majority of the posters on this forum have religious parents.

I think it's on your late teen's that you blossom out of that whole thing. That's when you really start to respect your parents, and to find the reason behind religion. I think a good portion of the posters on these boards are within this line of thinking.

I have little doubt that with age, the majority of this forum will become religious, but it's kinda obvious pointing that out since most of the world is religious, but whatev.

Youyou saying"yes there is" isnt proof!NumCha

The text in his message is a link to proof. :P

[QUOTE="lucky326"]It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.NumCha

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="NumCha"]theres no proof in thatNumCha

Yes there is.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="NumCha"]theres no proof in thatNumCha

Yes there is.

See how the letters are highlighted? That means they're linked. Click on them for your proof.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

The Legend of Zelda. :P

Theokhoth

What??? Anyway I'll stop this fight because there will be too much blood and we will stain the people in this thread.

You know how in Zelda games, the chickens will beat the living hell out of you if you attack one enough times?

[QUOTE="NumCha"]Youyou saying"yes there is" isnt proof!GabuEx

The text in his message is a link to proof. :P

You later complain that theist are throwing the the holy book at stem cell research? Thats human moral and value, not just religion. You dont have to be a Christian to oppose stem cell and abortion debate. Its a complicated debate to begin with.Kamekazi_69

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

What??? Anyway I'll stop this fight because there will be too much blood and we will stain the people in this thread.

Teenaged

You know how in Zelda games, the chickens will beat the living hell out of you if you attack one enough times?

They do it in GBC, too, I think. :P

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

The Legend of Zelda. :P

Theokhoth

What??? Anyway I'll stop this fight because there will be too much blood and we will stain the people in this thread.

You know how in Zelda games, the chickens will beat the living hell out of you if you attack one enough times?

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]You later complain that theist are throwing the the holy book at stem cell research? Thats human moral and value, not just religion. You dont have to be a Christian to oppose stem cell and abortion debate. Its a complicated debate to begin with.Funky_Llama

He referred specificly to religious people and their opposition to stem cells and abortion in the context of "how religion holds humanity back."

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

You know how in Zelda games, the chickens will beat the living hell out of you if you attack one enough times?

Theokhoth

They do it in GBC, too, I think. :P

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

What??? Anyway I'll stop this fight because there will be too much blood and we will stain the people in this thread.

Funky_Llama

You know how in Zelda games, the chickens will beat the living hell out of you if you attack one enough times?

. . . . Giggity. >_>

The majority on this forum is probably 16-20. On your mid teens I think teeangers are strictly anti-religious, because that's a real age where you start rebelling against any association with your parents, and I think it's safe to say that the majority of the posters on this forum have religious parents.

I think it's on your late teen's that you blossom out of that whole thing. That's when you really start to respect your parents, and to find the reason behind religion. I think a good portion of the posters on these boards are within this line of thinking.

I have little doubt that with age, the majority of this forum will become religious, but it's kinda obvious pointing that out since most of the world is religious, but whatev.

Siofen

I don't want to sound stereotypical or absolute but that's my... theory. I may be proved wrong but I tend to believe that the clearest state of mind is with very little children. As we grow up we loose that slowly.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]You later complain that theist are throwing the the holy book at stem cell research? Thats human moral and value, not just religion. You dont have to be a Christian to oppose stem cell and abortion debate. Its a complicated debate to begin with.Theokhoth

He referred specificly to religious people and their opposition to stem cells and abortion in the context of "how religion holds humanity back."

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

What??? Anyway I'll stop this fight because there will be too much blood and we will stain the people in this thread.

Funky_Llama

You know how in Zelda games, the chickens will beat the living hell out of you if you attack one enough times?

I'm sad to say that I got the reference immediately. :P

I always hear so many people here say rude things about Christians or Catholics.
Alright first of all, I am a catholic, so are my parents. We never have tried to convert anyone.
We never act like we are better then anyone, we never tell others they are going to hell if they swear or something.

So will atheists hate me just because I am a catholic??

I have a friend who is an atheist and he called me a retard because I am catholic.
So I am retarded because I am a catholic??

Should I be an atheist just because everyone tells me to be one??

joshrocks2245

in my city most people is catholic, and im an atheist. i recommend you to ignore the people who discriminates you. my english not good

The majority on this forum is probably 16-20. On your mid teens I think teeangers are strictly anti-religious, because that's a real age where you start rebelling against any association with your parents, and I think it's safe to say that the majority of the posters on this forum have religious parents.

I think it's on your late teen's that you blossom out of that whole thing. That's when you really start to respect your parents, and to find the reason behind religion. I think a good portion of the posters on these boards are within this line of thinking.

I have little doubt that with age, the majority of this forum will become religious, but it's kinda obvious pointing that out since most of the world is religious, but whatev.

Siofen

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

You know how in Zelda games, the chickens will beat the living hell out of you if you attack one enough times?

GabuEx

I'm sad to say that I got the reference immediately. :P

He never said that Christians were the only people opposing stem cell research and abortion.Funky_Llama

He referred specificly to religious people and their opposition to stem cells and abortion in the context of "how religion holds humanity back."

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

He referred specificly to religious people and their opposition to stem cells and abortion in the context of "how religion holds humanity back."

Kamekazi_69

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]I know. And, again, that doesn't imply that religious people are the only ones opposing it.Funky_Llama

I'ma a Catholic too :)cyberdarkkid

Do you enjoy posting in the OT though?
I actually hate it, thats why the past few months I haven't posted here much but the past few days I have been.

It's been a mistake though, I've only been angry because of all the religion bashing that has been going on.

If someone bashed religions like that in real, that person wouldn't have any friends.

I hate organized religion because it blinds people to logic and reason.
foxhound_fox

What is logic and reason?

I hate organized religion because it blinds people to logic and reason. There are plenty of people who can compromise their religion with science and logic but far too many remain wholly ignorant to actual reality. Personal beliefs are fine... but Voltaire put it best: "As long as people continue to believe in absurdities, they will continue to commit atrocities."

I constantly fantasize about fictional things... but I don't let those myths run my life.
foxhound_fox

Alright give me proof that God is fictional.

So the universe wasn't made from God, it just appeared out of no where??
All the planets and everything in the world just came out of no where??

I dont hate religions, I just hate the people who throw their own believes down your throat and try to trun you into them.GTA_dude

Can you please give me proof of Christians or Catholics who do this??
It's not usually them, usually it's other weird religions.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I hate organized religion because it blinds people to logic and reason. There are plenty of people who can compromise their religion with science and logic but far too many remain wholly ignorant to actual reality. Personal beliefs are fine... but Voltaire put it best: "As long as people continue to believe in absurdities, they will continue to commit atrocities."

I constantly fantasize about fictional things... but I don't let those myths run my life.
joshrocks2245

Alright give me proof that God is fictional.

So the universe wasn't made from God, it just appeared out of no where??
All the planets and everything in the world just came out of no where??

[QUOTE="GTA_dude"]I dont hate religions, I just hate the people who throw their own believes down your throat and try to trun you into them.joshrocks2245

Can you please give me proof of Christians or Catholics who do this??
It's not usually them, usually it's other weird religions.

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I hate organized religion because it blinds people to logic and reason. There are plenty of people who can compromise their religion with science and logic but far too many remain wholly ignorant to actual reality. Personal beliefs are fine... but Voltaire put it best: "As long as people continue to believe in absurdities, they will continue to commit atrocities."

I constantly fantasize about fictional things... but I don't let those myths run my life.
Vandalvideo

Alright give me proof that God is fictional.

So the universe wasn't made from God, it just appeared out of no where??
All the planets and everything in the world just came out of no where??

It's not blind acceptance, it's proof.

Theres proof of God, theres proof of Jesus, the bible is real.
No no everyone says God is fictional who is not religious, but he is not fictional.

How did everything get on earth without God??
Everything just appeared??
I don't get how everything could just appear without a creator.

Please explain to me how everything got on this earth.
Also explain to me how every single planet appeared in the universe without a creator.

Religion hampers the advancement of science by their blind acceptance of faith running contrary to logic and reason. Vandalvideo

What is logic and reason? What advancements of science does religion hamper? How does religion accept anything?

Blind faith does not exist. There simply is no such thing as blind faith in anything, God or otherwise.

It's not blind acceptance, it's proof.Theres proof of God, theres proof of Jesus, the bible is real.No no everyone says God is fictional who is not religious, but he is not fictional.How did everything get on earth without God??Everything just appeared?? don't get how everything could just appear without a creator. Please explain to me how everything got on this earth. Also explain to me how every single planet appeared in the universe without a creator. joshrocks2245

What is logic and reason? What advancements of science does religion hamper? How does religion accept anything? Blind faith does not exist. There simply is no such thing as blind faith in anything, God or otherwise.Theokhoth

Logic and reason are directly contrary to faith as an absurdity.1 It is the belief in things not otherwise perceived through evidence.2 Religion has a long history of holding back the sciences in areas such as astrology and now stem cell research.3 Religion cannot handle things that may threaten their status quo, so they declare it heretic.4Vandalvideo

1. That doesn't answer the question.

2. Again, no such thing.

3. Religion hasn't held back stem cell research; only embryonic stem cell research, which is obsolete. And again, you never answered the question.

4. That goes for every established normalcy in existence.

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]It's not blind acceptance, it's proof.Theres proof of God, theres proof of Jesus, the bible is real.No no everyone says God is fictional who is not religious, but he is not fictional.How did everything get on earth without God??Everything just appeared?? don't get how everything could just appear without a creator. Please explain to me how everything got on this earth. Also explain to me how every single planet appeared in the universe without a creator. Vandalvideo

We don't know how we got here? There is no proof of God? :|
There is proof of God, and we may not know how we got here but it had to be by a creator.

Let me explain this to you. You really think the universe just popped out of no where??
All of the sudden, everything was created by nothing??

It is impossible for nothing to create something, so yes something did create everything because that is the only way it can be.

Because religion is annoying.Bloodbath_87

Religion is annoying??
The religion bashers aren't annoying??

1. That doesn't answer the question.Theokhoth

2. Again, no such thing.

3. Religion hasn't held back stem cell research; only embryonic stem cell research, which is obsolete.

We don't know how we got here? There is no proof of God? :|There is proof of God, and we may not know how we got here but it had to be by a creator.Let me explain this to you. You really think the universe just popped out of no where??All of the sudden, everything was created by nothing??It is impossible for nothing to create something, so yes something did create everything because that is the only way it can be. joshrocks2245

Of course it answers the question. Logic and reasoning are a contrast between faith. It is the acceptance with or without evidence of things.1 No such thing? What about the persecution of Gallileo for Helicentrism? The church practically held his ideas hostage at the end of a sword!2 Stem cell research qua stem cell research. Holding back science for your own moralistic tendencies is opression.3Vandalvideo

1. No, it doesn't. You're telling me what logic and reason isn't, but you're saying nothing about what it is.

2. That isn't blind faith, and Galileo was persecuted for stepping out of his authority with the Pope, not for his heliocentric findings. You still haven't answered the second question.

3. Killing humans for the advancement of science is oppression. Hence the opposition to embryonic stem cell research. However, adult stem cell research works better, making embryonic stem cell research, and the controversies surrounding it, obsolete. Science is not an authority and should never, ever, be treated as such.

1. No, it doesn't. You're telling me what logic and reason isn't, but you're saying nothing about what it is.Theokhoth

2. That isn't blind faith, and Galileo was persecuted for stepping out of his authority with the Pope, not for his heliocentric findings. You still haven't answered the second question.

3. Killing humans for the advancement of science is oppression. Hence the opposition to embryonic stem cell research. However, adult stem cell research works better, making embryonic stem cell research, and the controversies surrounding it, obsolete. Science is not an authority and should never, ever, be treated as such.

Stem cell research qua stem cell research. Holding back science for your own moralistic tendencies is opression.Vandalvideo

If you believe that some procedure is causing the deaths of innocent human lives, would it not be morally treasonable not to speak out against it?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Stem cell research qua stem cell research. Holding back science for your own moralistic tendencies is opression.GabuEx

If you believe that some procedure is causing the deaths of innocent human lives, would it not be morally treasonable not to speak out against it?

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]We don't know how we got here? There is no proof of God? :|There is proof of God, and we may not know how we got here but it had to be by a creator.Let me explain this to you. You really think the universe just popped out of no where??All of the sudden, everything was created by nothing??It is impossible for nothing to create something, so yes something did create everything because that is the only way it can be. Vandalvideo

Well I have proof God exists, so I am not just saying he exists because we popped out of no where.

But you really think we could pop out of no where with no creator? You honestly think everything on this earth wasn't created by a higher power and it just appeared here? :|

The only way to establish what logic and reason are is to examine what it isn't.1 There is a dichotomy between logic/reason and faith.2 Galileo was FORCEd at the end of a sword to renounce his own beliefs because it went against the status quo and the church.3 Heliocentrism was OPPRESSED by the church. That is a fact.4 By law, they are not humans.5 They do not have the basic functional capacities under law to constitute persons, and are not offorded the protections of humans. You're relying on a definition of human from religious tenentsVandalvideo

1. No it is not. I'm giving you one last chance: Tell me what logic and reason are or this discussion is over.

2. Yet you still haven't established what logic/reason is or what faith is.

3. Galileo was forced to do so because after stepping out of line, his findings could not be accepted. The Church ACCEPTED heliocentricism before they condemned Galileo, and THAT is the fact.

4. The law is wrong and unjust, and like any other wrong and unjust law, should be opposed. By biology they are human.

5. I don't have to be religious to consider them humans. Relying on an unjust law to establish the moral rightness of an action is faulty.