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random flashes of stuff you never thought would come at you. saw did it a lot, but im tame on horror. 28 weeks later when that girl busted in in the very beginning grabbing arms was intense, and those flashbacks he had that you didnt expect and the zombies starte screaming bleeding right in the camera, really sets you off for jumping.Premier1101
I don't want to resort to jump scares though, i think psychological horror is the best way to creep out.
What really annoys me is when a horror movie does a "OH-SHI-JUMP-OUT-OF-YOUR-SEAT" moment, when it was totally unnecessary. I love subtle psychological horror as it is presented in the Japanese version of the Grudge, or the Ring. super_mario_128Yeah I hate that and it doesn't work on me anymore. I can basically predict when it is going to happen and when it does, I'm like wow..... how did I know they were going to do that?
[QUOTE="Premier1101"]random flashes of stuff you never thought would come at you. saw did it a lot, but im tame on horror. 28 weeks later when that girl busted in in the very beginning grabbing arms was intense, and those flashbacks he had that you didnt expect and the zombies starte screaming bleeding right in the camera, really sets you off for jumping.Film-Guy
I don't want to resort to jump scares though, i think psychological horror is the best way to creep out.
then a slow motion chase through a deserted warehouse full of hanging dead bodies and strewn rusted tools in near complete darkness with a girl that is helpless being chased by a guy with a plastic bag and rope for a couple minutes should be thrilling.
[QUOTE="Premier1101"]random flashes of stuff you never thought would come at you. saw did it a lot, but im tame on horror. 28 weeks later when that girl busted in in the very beginning grabbing arms was intense, and those flashbacks he had that you didnt expect and the zombies starte screaming bleeding right in the camera, really sets you off for jumping.Film-Guy
I don't want to resort to jump scares though, i think psychological horror is the best way to creep out.
Yeah don't do it.Yeah I hate that and it doesn't work on me anymore. I can basically predict when it is going to happen and when it does, I'm like wow..... how did I know they were going to do that?[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]What really annoys me is when a horror movie does a "OH-SHI-JUMP-OUT-OF-YOUR-SEAT" moment, when it was totally unnecessary. I love subtle psychological horror as it is presented in the Japanese version of the Grudge, or the Ring. smokeydabear076
The best one's for me are when a character opens a closet door to get something out and when they close the door, somebody is behind it. I'm like, "Yeh, that's original right there." :|
[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Yeah I hate that and it doesn't work on me anymore. I can basically predict when it is going to happen and when it does, I'm like wow..... how did I know they were going to do that?[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]What really annoys me is when a horror movie does a "OH-SHI-JUMP-OUT-OF-YOUR-SEAT" moment, when it was totally unnecessary. I love subtle psychological horror as it is presented in the Japanese version of the Grudge, or the Ring. super_mario_128
The best one's for me are when a character opens a closet door to get something out and when they close the door, somebody is behind it. I'm like, "Yeh, that's original right there." :|
Yeah.:lol:[QUOTE="Premier1101"]and yays for a movie from Film-Guy! put it on youtube for us all, make sure you dedicate to OT as well. Is this in your blog yet?Film-Guy
Yep, and i will update it as much as possible:D
youshould track me so I can keep up on updates too![QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Premier1101"]random flashes of stuff you never thought would come at you. saw did it a lot, but im tame on horror. 28 weeks later when that girl busted in in the very beginning grabbing arms was intense, and those flashbacks he had that you didnt expect and the zombies starte screaming bleeding right in the camera, really sets you off for jumping.smokeydabear076
I don't want to resort to jump scares though, i think psychological horror is the best way to creep out.
Yeah don't do it.Probably the scariest scene in a movie I saw recently was in the film Kairo aka pulse the original korean version when a ghost was slowly walking towards somebody. There was barely any music or screamingm just that ghost slowly appraching the screen with her blank face:shock:
[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="Premier1101"]random flashes of stuff you never thought would come at you. saw did it a lot, but im tame on horror. 28 weeks later when that girl busted in in the very beginning grabbing arms was intense, and those flashbacks he had that you didnt expect and the zombies starte screaming bleeding right in the camera, really sets you off for jumping.Film-Guy
I don't want to resort to jump scares though, i think psychological horror is the best way to creep out.
Yeah don't do it.Probably the scariest scene in a movie I saw recently was in the film Kairo aka pulse the original korean version when a ghost was slowly walking towards somebody. There was barely any music or screamingm just that ghost slowly appraching the screen with her blank face:shock:
I have never seen the movie, but it sounds nice.Don't have the good guys win and make it very clear that they didn't. A lot of "scary" movies do this... they have an ending sequence where the main character is living good after they got passed whatever hell they were put through and then you see that the bad guy is still alive or something like that. If you ask me that just seems cheesy. You should have the main character die or not escape whatever it is.smokeydabear076
yeah I dont plan on being nice to the main character:P If i have a killer in the movie do you think he should be the silent type, or the talking type?
[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Don't have the good guys win and make it very clear that they didn't. A lot of "scary" movies do this... they have an ending sequence where the main character is living good after they got passed whatever hell they were put through and then you see that the bad guy is still alive or something like that. If you ask me that just seems cheesy. You should have the main character die or not escape whatever it is.Film-Guy
yeah I dont plan on being nice to the main character:P If i have a killer in the movie do you think he should be the silent type, or the talking type?
talking def, but if you gave him a voice that doesnt look to fit him, it could be amazing or really bad. No country had it so he talked a little abnormal, and look at its awards. But Xerxses has a balla voice, amazing for horror.
[QUOTE="Film-Guy"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Don't have the good guys win and make it very clear that they didn't. A lot of "scary" movies do this... they have an ending sequence where the main character is living good after they got passed whatever hell they were put through and then you see that the bad guy is still alive or something like that. If you ask me that just seems cheesy. You should have the main character die or not escape whatever it is.Premier1101
yeah I dont plan on being nice to the main character:P If i have a killer in the movie do you think he should be the silent type, or the talking type?
talking def, but if you gave him a voice that doesnt look to fit him, it could be amazing or really bad. No country had it so he talked a little abnormal, and look at its awards. But Xerxses has a balla voice, amazing for horror.
I'm trying to decide what the killer should look like, I think some kind of creepy mask is in order, but of what kind i have no idea. I want it to look creepy yet original. Or maybe he should just look like a normal guy. Damn so many choices!
A silent killer is what he should be. Michael Myers from Halloween, anyone? If he ahd spoken it would never have had the same effect.
What you must not do, however, is do the cliche type of chase scene where the good guy/gal escapes, seemingly by a good distance, turns around to view the area he/she had escaped, then turns around again to find the killer/ghost behind him. Gore then ensues, and this is something you should not look to do in this.
Some creepy music needs to be used, but nothing unnecessary, it needs to fit the mood of that you want in the scene. For example, don't use loud creepy music if the good person is supposed to be sneaking away. :P
[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Don't have the good guys win and make it very clear that they didn't. A lot of "scary" movies do this... they have an ending sequence where the main character is living good after they got passed whatever hell they were put through and then you see that the bad guy is still alive or something like that. If you ask me that just seems cheesy. You should have the main character die or not escape whatever it is.Film-Guy
yeah I dont plan on being nice to the main character:P If i have a killer in the movie do you think he should be the silent type, or the talking type?
Hmm..... that's a hard one. I would have them talk, but not say much and don't have him explain everything at the end. Like "your mom killed my dad a long time ago so I'm trying to kill you." Not telling everything is a good idea if you ask me. So have them say stuff, but not a whole lot.I'm trying to decide what the killer should look like, I think some kind of creepy mask is in order, but of what kind i have no idea. I want it to look creepy yet original. Or maybe he should just look like a normal guy. Damn so many choices!
Film-Guy
To be honest, I think it would be better if we don't even see the killer at all. Where is this scene going to take place? A haunted house? A warehouse?
[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]I'm trying to decide what the killer should look like, I think some kind of creepy mask is in order, but of what kind i have no idea. I want it to look creepy yet original. Or maybe he should just look like a normal guy. Damn so many choices!
super_mario_128
To be honest, I think it would be better if we don't even see the killer at all. Where is this scene going to take place? A haunted house? A warehouse?
Well I'm either going to film it at my house, which is a medium sized 2 story house with a creepy looking under the house area and a large almost acre sized garden with lot of trees. Or my friends house which is basically a suburb in valencia, california. I could film it somewhere else, but these places are more convenient, I cant decide what would work better.
[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]I'm trying to decide what the killer should look like, I think some kind of creepy mask is in order, but of what kind i have no idea. I want it to look creepy yet original. Or maybe he should just look like a normal guy. Damn so many choices!
Film-Guy
To be honest, I think it would be better if we don't even see the killer at all. Where is this scene going to take place? A haunted house? A warehouse?
Well I'm either going to film it at my house, which is a medium sized 2 story house with a creepy looking under the house area and a large almost acre sized garden with lot of trees. Or my friends house which is basically a suburb in valencia, california. I could film it somewhere else, but these places are more convenient, I cant decide what would work better.
Mask: paper mache' that was horribly done and painted black, or one of those I talinan maks that have feathers and are white, google it, or maybe a football helmet backwards with three boxes chopped in front for eyes and mouth. Something you have to find if you can: colored contacts!! pure black or bright green def be sweet. I say film in the neighborhood, shots seem to come naturally in places you are familiar with.
Well, I guess if the camera-work is ok, then you could make it so you only show shadows or silhouettes of the bad guy. But I don't know what you're aiming at in this film. I hope my suggestions are helping. :Psuper_mario_128
I don't think i will really show the bad guy in the movie at all. What I want to do is have a character in the movie be looking around or walking somwhere and then behind him or her you see a human figure, not full or anything but you can see it. Then maybe while a character is walking down a hallway you see a dark figure behind her following her, no music or jump scares and she doesnt die yet, but you know he is there and it has you hopefully on the edge of your seat looking to see what the figure does.
pyscological horror is best, stuff that will make you think after you leave the thearter, alittle gore never hurts to (just dont try make it goreporn)
and a really evil villian, im not talking "muhahaha take over the world!" villian. i mean a real horrible villian, someone who would do the most horrible disgusting evil things ever thought up. imagine cannible lector+the serial killer in no country for old men, and multiply that 50 times!
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also the guys from clockwork orange!!! those are true killers!
Traditional horror is about as frightening as an antique collection of victorian spoons - they all rely on utterly pathetic shock devices that are tediously predictable. Fear is mostly a product of self-preservation, and I find it utterly impossible to feel frightened when I am in absolutely no danger in any way - or when I have absolutely no emotional connection with the people who are in danger.
That's why I think shooting something entirely in the first person would make anything much, much more immersive and frightening as a film experience. I've never seen a first person film before, but I think the potention is extremely good - especially horror.
But I do find total brain**** films like Eraserhead disturbing enough to compare it almost with fear.
There are about a hundred techniques, none of which I can consider myself an expert on, and most of which have lost their shock value since their introduction.
I have only been shocked once in a movie and that was in 1408, when the protagonist is looking across the hotel street and some sort of creature is shown coming behind him with a lamp in the reflection. So, any sort of suspense using reflections such as mirrors would work. Just make sure the image is crystal clear.
I actually think the scariest a movie can be is by creating a real environment that the audience can automatically relate. For example, having a child with an abusive father around after the audience sees the child break the rule and have her guilty conscious build up in the tension that her father will start abusing her again. I know it's not really a horror movie but I have to have the suspension of disbelief for it to work as a consumer.
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