Virginia Shootings (16th April '07)

Links & Articles:

TIMELINE OF EVENTS. 

Wikipedia : Main details.

For info on Gunman.

For info on the Gunman's life at the Uni.

For info on Town's response to massacre.

For info on Students reaction to Tradegy.

For info on Named Victims.

Quotes on Tradegy.

Gunmans Quotes in Final Video.

Videos: 

Gunmans Final Video.

Student talks of escaping Gunman.

Candlelight Vigil for Victims.

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MOST RECENT NEWS: Gunman's Family are 'So Sorry' and Gunmans Final Video

Total of 33 dead (including suicide of Gunman), and around 15 injured. Case is now the deadliest shooting at a US educational facilitiy.

Gunman:  

Police have stated that the gunman is Cho Seung-hui, a 23-year-old from South Korea, final year student, who was studying English and lived on campus. Described as being a 'loner'. He also recieved mental care at a mental unit up until late 2005.

Police now confirmed that two hanguns have been recovered, 9mm and 22mm weapons. First gun purchased on 13th March.

The Gunman reportedly left behind a "disturbing note" following the first killings of the morning, but not all of the contents have been revealed. He also sent a 'Final Video' to NBC News Network in the US. This can be seen here.

Gunman described as almost dressed like a 'boy scout,' wearing a short-sleeved tan shirt and a black ammunition vest.

His face was reported to have been badly damaged after killing himself, but that he had been positively identified by fingerprints and immigration records. 

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George W. Bush comments: 'Schools should be places of safety and sanctuary and learning. When that sanctuary is violated, the impact is felt in every American clasroom and every American community.' He also added that America was: 'Shocked and Saddened. Today our nation grieves with those who have lost loved ones at Virginia Tech. We hold the victims in our hearts. We lift them up in our prayers. And we ask a loving God to comfort those who are suffering today.'

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Brief: 

Two shootings at Virginia Tech University, Blacksburg, USA on 16th April '07.

The first at West Ambler Johnston Hall, a student dormitory at 7:15 AM. 911 was called at that time. Two killed here (including Gunman's girlfriend).

The second, which happened approx. 2 hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building. 30 killed here (including Gunman via suicide).

Police have now confirmed that the gunman had killed himself at Norris Hall.

Still investigating whether the two shootings were connected, and also, if the bomb threats which the University had recieved in the past few weeks were connected to the shooter (s).

Eye witnesses say the Gunman had appeared in the dorm. and was looking for his girlfriend, then opened fire.

Police have now confirmed that the Gunman was a student at the University.

Map and Timeline of Key Events:

For all details of events click here.

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Dude these are getting way too common in the US. I mean they are becoming really common.

And its really not good. 

Dude these are getting way too common in the US. I mean they are becoming really common.

And its really not good.

Samwel_X

It seems like a daily occurance. Time to invest in junior-sized body armor.... 

I used to live in virginia where UVA thats tech is our rival state but know i live in paris france

Yea, it was VT and I have been listening to the news all day about it. They just said 22 are dead on XM Radio, but I am not sure if that is true or not because it says 21 are wounded. I guess we'll have to wait and see the official word. This is really sad.videogamer456

I'm on BBC NEWS24, it seems there are 22 dead, and 20 or so wounded. 

When this happens in the UK its very rare.... you just can't get hold of guns as easily here thank goodness.

The details emerging from this case are very disturbing..... I really feel for the families involved and really hope that you are able to get guns totally banned out there to help reduce these kind of horrible experiences. :(

/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?nickmag

/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?nickmag

Guns kill people, just like forks and spoons made Rosie O'donnel fat.

When this happens in the UK its very rare.... you just can't get hold of guns as easily here thank goodness.

The details emerging from this case are very disturbing..... I really feel for the families involved and really hope that you are able to get guns totally banned out there to help reduce these kind of horrible experiences. :(

philhilluk

People are into guns alot more in Canada and they don't have school shootings.

[QUOTE="philhilluk"]

When this happens in the UK its very rare.... you just can't get hold of guns as easily here thank goodness.

The details emerging from this case are very disturbing..... I really feel for the families involved and really hope that you are able to get guns totally banned out there to help reduce these kind of horrible experiences. :(

NicktehImperial

People are into guns alot more in Canada and they don't have school shootings.

i guess there are less sick basterds in canada, USA have a really bad reputation. 

[QUOTE="nickmag"]/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?foxhound_fox

They're completely illegal here too, and while gun crime exists, it is extremely uncommon compared to many countries where it is legal to own a gun. 21 people being shot dead is just unacceptable, and something has to be done. I'll bet you anything someone will blame videogames though :roll:

/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?nickmag

All though this is tragic I do no think we should make guns illegal

For those of you wishing guns should be completely illegal to have:

If you want to get rid of firearms, then people who are crazy enough to kill will just find another weapon to use. Look around in your kitchen; almost every utensil in there can be used as a weapon. You can run over people with cars. Hell, you can use your own bare hands to cause damage. What I'm trying to say is that, unfortunately, humans have become very skilled at killing humans and they can and will use that skill using anything they can get their hands on. I just don't see how outlawing guns alone will fix the problem of murder.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="nickmag"]/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?cjek

They're completely illegal here too, and while gun crime exists, it is extremely uncommon compared to many countries where it is legal to own a gun. 21 people being shot dead is just unacceptable, and something has to be done. I'll bet you anything someone will blame videogames though :roll:

No I live in the USA and I say, bring Marines into the cities, if anyone tries anything, they'll have a bullet in their skull, in Columbine the police didn't come inside the school until the shooters shot themselves... 

For those of you wishing guns should be completely illegal to have:

If you want to get rid of firearms, then people who are crazy enough to kill will just find another weapon to use. Look around in your kitchen; almost every utensil in there can be used as a weapon. You can run over people with cars. Hell, you can use your own bare hands to cause damage. What I'm trying to say is that, unfortunately, humans have become very skilled at killing humans and they can and will use that skill using anything they can get their hands on. I just don't see how outlawing guns alone will fix the problem of murder.

Ranger_x8b

thats true but guns are the main weapons. i mean u cant really defend yourself agaisnt a gun can you?though with a knife it could be possable to stop the attacker much easier. 

For those of you wishing guns should be completely illegal to have:

If you want to get rid of firearms, then people who are crazy enough to kill will just find another weapon to use. Look around in your kitchen; almost every utensil in there can be used as a weapon. You can run over people with cars. Hell, you can use your own bare hands to cause damage. What I'm trying to say is that, unfortunately, humans have become very skilled at killing humans and they can and will use that skill using anything they can get their hands on. I just don't see how outlawing guns alone will fix the problem of murder.

Ranger_x8b

*Sigh*

The people trying to say we should ban guns make me sad for hummanity.

Yeah, lets blame this all on a tool. We know that nothing would have happened if it weren't for that damn tool.

How about we start investigating the facts that MATTER, such as WHY did this happen? The common occurance of this is an OBVIOUS sign that there needs to be some MAJOR social and cultural changes.

As mentioned before, guns are EVERYWHERE in Canada and yet they have a very low gun crime rate.

There is a sort of sickness brewing here in the US and we need to cure it ASAP. 

[QUOTE="nickmag"]/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?SAURON221

All though this is tragic I do no think we should make guns illegal

For those of you wishing guns should be completely illegal to have:

If you want to get rid of firearms, then people who are crazy enough to kill will just find another weapon to use. Look around in your kitchen; almost every utensil in there can be used as a weapon. You can run over people with cars. Hell, you can use your own bare hands to cause damage. What I'm trying to say is that, unfortunately, humans have become very skilled at killing humans and they can and will use that skill using anything they can get their hands on. I just don't see how outlawing guns alone will fix the problem of murder.

Ranger_x8b

But, there's a difference between a gun and a household every day appliance, i agree that humans can use anything to kill

but theres a slight gap in danger.

"#1 cause of death in America, school shootings".

I can see it now. 

[QUOTE="nickmag"]/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?foxhound_fox

Give me a link on that - lowest crime rate.  Also, homogenous populations tend to have less crime.

[QUOTE="nickmag"]/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?NicktehImperial

Guns kill people, just like forks and spoons made Rosie O'donnel fat.

/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?nickmag

You can't say that, it's infringing on people's right to kill stuff.

:roll: 

Haven't heard about this yet, since I live in germany. Very tragic I must say :( . Even by outlawing guns it will still take a while until the amount of gun owners (whether legally or illegally) will go down since they can't just get rid of all the guns that are already in posession. So I'd say they should start making guns illegal as soon as possible...f*** the NRA!

This is really becoming the norm at US schools maybe they should take a long hard look at the laws because clearly something isnt right.fordies

[QUOTE="nickmag"]/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?SAURON221

All though this is tragic I do no think we should make guns illegal

im not giving up my guns. but regardless, crazy people would get them anyway

just look at columbine, all their guns (or at least most) were obtained via illegal means (black market) 

Is it as easy to kill someone with a knife or your hands as it is with a gun?foxhound_fox

Actually yes it is.

Meh, it's gonna get blamed on videos games anyway =/dj_pulserfan

yea, unfortunatly

[QUOTE="nickmag"]/facepalm time for serious discussions about making guns illegal?SAURON221

All though this is tragic I do no think we should make guns illegal

So many other countries have successfully banned guns and have much lower violent crime rates.

It's tried and tested,  just needs to be enforced in those countries where this trouble occurs.

thats true but guns are the main weapons. i mean u cant really defend yourself agaisnt a gun can you?though with a knife it could be possable to stop the attacker much easier. gamerchris810

If you begin to outlaw guns, then you'll start a chain reaction. Murderous people start using knives and now knives are outlawed. Murderous people start using hammers and now hammers are outlawed. Murderous people start using cars and now cars are outlawed. Murder will continue to happen no matter what gets outlawed, so guns isn't the true solution to ending murder. 

[QUOTE="gamerchris810"]thats true but guns are the main weapons. i mean u cant really defend yourself agaisnt a gun can you?though with a knife it could be possable to stop the attacker much easier. Ranger_x8b

If you begin to outlaw guns, then you'll start a chain reaction. Murderous people start using knives and now knives are outlawed. Murderous people start using hammers and now hammers are outlawed. Murderous people start using cars and now cars are outlawed. Murder will continue to happen no matter what gets outlawed, so guns isn't the true solution to ending murder.

perhaps but guns still kill alot of ppl,banning them would take murders down. just ban guns.nothing else. 

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Is it as easy to kill someone with a knife or your hands as it is with a gun?EndersAres

Actually yes it is.

For those of you wishing guns should be completely illegal to have:

If you want to get rid of firearms, then people who are crazy enough to kill will just find another weapon to use. Look around in your kitchen; almost every utensil in there can be used as a weapon. You can run over people with cars. Hell, you can use your own bare hands to cause damage. What I'm trying to say is that, unfortunately, humans have become very skilled at killing humans and they can and will use that skill using anything they can get their hands on. I just don't see how outlawing guns alone will fix the problem of murder.

Ranger_x8b

So many other countries have successfully banned guns and have much lower violent crime rates.

It's tried and tested, just needs to be enforced in those countries where this trouble occurs.

philhilluk

Fighting a war on guns is like fighting the war on drugs, pointless. People who want a gun will get one regardless. It's rather cliche, but as the saying goes, guns don't kill people, people kill people. I know a dozen people that own guns that wouldn't go on a shooting rampage.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Is it as easy to kill someone with a knife or your hands as it is with a gun?EndersAres

Actually yes it is.

what about 22 people in a row? ......it's not my country, so i don't have a say on this. but if the americans don't care about the gun laws, then maybe the rest of the world shouldn't be worried about them.....