Tobacco companies sue FDA over new graphic warnings

Can I petition the government to do the same thing for guns and alcohol? Why should we stop at cigarettes?

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that is ridiculous. i don't need to see pictures of a diseased lung to know that smoking is bad for me and can make me get cancer. it's not really fair that the tobacco companies have to put these things on their packaging, yet other companies that make harmful products don't have to do anything like that.

that is ridiculous. i don't need to see pictures of a diseased lung to know that smoking is bad for me and can make me get cancer. it's not really fair that the tobacco companies have to put these things on their packaging, yet other companies that make harmful products don't have to do anything like that.

needled24-7

Damn people are stupid, they kill people, posting pictures of the bodies fromHolocaust wouldn't be excessive.

Ug, your analogies are terrible. Guns, Alcohol, and McDonalds burgers have uses/functions that will not kill you if you're smart. You can use a gun, drink alcohol, and eat McDonalds and not suffer any ill effects.

Smoking, as it stands, is the only one of those which has no wide-spread non-harmful application.

That said, those pictures are just disturbing. If this does go through, buying cigs for my parents is going to be even more awkward and unpleasant.

Most countries around the world has those pictures on the packaging.

Good, I hope they win. FDA went too far.

Most countries around the world has those pictures on the packaging.

Blue-Sky

Most countries around the world has those pictures on the packaging.

Blue-Sky

Good, I hope they win. FDA went too far.

Chutebox

Next week lets open a memorial to hitler and burn down the Holocaust museum.

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Good, I hope they win. FDA went too far.

CaveJohnson1

Next week lets open a memorial to hitler and burn down the Holocaust museum.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Good, I hope they win. FDA went too far.

DroidPhysX

Next week lets open a memorial to hitler and burn down the Holocaust museum.

Once you're addicted, it's not a choice anymore, it's an addiction, it's slavery. It's as much the drug dealers fault as it is the addict.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Good, I hope they win. FDA went too far.

Nibroc420

Next week lets open a memorial to hitler and burn down the Holocaust museum.

Let's protect the companies that have killed millions

Next week lets open a memorial to hitler and burn down the Holocaust museum.

CaveJohnson1

Honestly...**** that.

They're selling a legal product. There are already warning labels. They've already been all-but-prohibited from ADVERTISING the product.

If the product is so ****ing bad, then the government should have some balls and ban it.

Those kinds of labels don't convey any actual information about the health risks that isn't available in standard old text. It's essentially nothing but shock propaganda, like how anti-abortion groups put up billboards showing pictures of dead fetuses. Here's the thing...agree with the practice or not, at least those dead fetus billboards are put up by those who OPPOSE abortion rather than the ones who PERFORM abortions. This is indeed a company who is selling a LEGAL product being forced to use emotionally driven non-informational propaganda in order to tell ALL of its customers to NOT USE THE PRODUCT. And yeah, at that point...just freaking ban the stuff already.

I wonder why the article starts out with Columbia, S.C. if this is a federal thing...not that this story having to do with the area I live in would shock me or anything. I work at a drug store that sells more cigarettes than any other store in the region. I don't see these images slowing down sells one bit. Amnesiac23

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]Let's protect the companies that have killed millions

Next week lets open a memorial to hitler and burn down the Holocaust museum.

majoras_wrath

Just because i enjoy playing devil's advocate a lot, doesn't mean i'm NEVER serious :P

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Most countries around the world has those pictures on the packaging.

DroidPhysX

well not most, but quite a few lol. Here's a sample

Brazil

Singapore

Canada

Thailand

Australia

All these counties implement tobacco warning labels and while they all may not have graphic images, it's only a matter of time before they all do.

Albania, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, Taiwan ,croatia,European Union, Austria and Germany, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Irel and Italy,The Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom, Hong Kong, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Moldova, New Zealand, Norway, Pakistan, Philippines, Russian Federation, Serbia, SingaporeSwitzerland, Somalila, South Korea, Thailand Turkey, Ukraine, United States of America

Challenge Accepted.Fifth Largest US Tobacco Company

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] If you want to, i suppose you could open a memorial for Hitler After all, he was an important person within the last century, he did a lot.Nibroc420

Just because i enjoy playing devil's advocate a lot, doesn't mean i'm NEVER serious :P

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] At this point, I'm fairly certain you are never serious.majoras_wrath

Just because i enjoy playing devil's advocate a lot, doesn't mean i'm NEVER serious :P

useless. my brother just ended up smoking more so he could collect them all....it was like pokemon

useless. my brother just ended up smoking more so he could collect them all....it was like pokemon

blackacidevil96

I was a fan of dead baby fetus myself.

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useless. my brother just ended up smoking more so he could collect them all....it was like pokemon

Blue-Sky

I was a fan of dead baby fetus myself.

hahaha i think that was the first one he got. this was while we were in australia btw

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]Let's protect the companies that have killed millions

Next week lets open a memorial to hitler and burn down the Holocaust museum.

MrGeezer

Honestly...**** that.

They're selling a legal product. There are already warning labels. They've already been all-but-prohibited from ADVERTISING the product.

If the product is so ****ing bad, then the government should have some balls and ban it.

Those kinds of labels don't convey any actual information about the health risks that isn't available in standard old text. It's essentially nothing but shock propaganda, like how anti-abortion groups put up billboards showing pictures of dead fetuses. Here's the thing...agree with the practice or not, at least those dead fetus billboards are put up by those who OPPOSE abortion rather than the ones who PERFORM abortions. This is indeed a company who is selling a LEGAL product being forced to use emotionally driven non-informational propaganda in order to tell ALL of its customers to NOT USE THE PRODUCT. And yeah, at that point...just freaking ban the stuff already.

I love how Cigars are always left out of the tobacco propaganda campaigns. I smoke them and would be rather upset if the FDA tried to pull this stunt. It's really indefensible imo.

I love how Cigars are always left out of the tobacco propaganda campaigns. I smoke them and would be rather upset if the FDA tried to pull this stunt. It's really indefensible imo.

limpbizkit818

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Good, I hope they win. FDA went too far.

CaveJohnson1

Next week lets open a memorial to hitler and burn down the Holocaust museum.

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Good, I hope they win. FDA went too far.

Chutebox

Next week lets open a memorial to hitler and burn down the Holocaust museum.

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

I love how Cigars are always left out of the tobacco propaganda campaigns. I smoke them and would be rather upset if the FDA tried to pull this stunt. It's really indefensible imo.

Nibroc420

If it's not a big deal than why do you care if the pictures are on the box? If it's not a big deal why do it in the first place?

High end cigar boxes are often very nice. These pictures would ruin them.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

I love how Cigars are always left out of the tobacco propaganda campaigns. I smoke them and would be rather upset if the FDA tried to pull this stunt. It's really indefensible imo.

limpbizkit818

If it's not a big deal than why do you care if the pictures are on the box? If it's not a big deal why do it in the first place?

High end cigar boxes are often very nice. These pictures would ruin them.

High end cigar boxes are often very nice. These pictures would ruin them.limpbizkit818

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Good, I hope they win. FDA went too far.

Chutebox

Next week lets open a memorial to hitler and burn down the Holocaust museum.

how people can be so blatantly stupid and use I'll never know.

Hmm, part of me thinks that the FDA went a bit far on that one.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Upset? Why? They're just changing the boxes, it's not like they're changing the contents. "Oh no, my box of cancer-sticks now has a label telling me that they cause cancer. The world will end" Seriously, it's not a big deal, it's a picture.Nibroc420

If it's not a big deal than why do you care if the pictures are on the box? If it's not a big deal why do it in the first place?

High end cigar boxes are often very nice. These pictures would ruin them.

I believe that warning labels are already used.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

If it's not a big deal than why do you care if the pictures are on the box? If it's not a big deal why do it in the first place?

High end cigar boxes are often very nice. These pictures would ruin them.

coolbeans90

I believe that warning labels are already used.

Hmm, part of me thinks that the FDA went a bit far on that one.

coolbeans90

.... Come to canada and see what our cigarette packs look like, you can't buy a pack without an open brain, disgusting teeth, or other not quite as bad sights on the pack. But, I think the government shouldn't try to control what their citizens consume. They have no right. I mean, We're supposed to live in a free country.Lost-Memory

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Why put warning labels on things that are dangerous, and with use can kill you.... Hmm i dont know, maybe we should think about it :roll:Nibroc420

I believe that warning labels are already used.

Everyone knows what the **** smoking does, warning labels already exist -- the pictures are just annoying/disgusting to look at. It's one thing to inform a person about the risks associated with unhealthy activities or for that matter aid them in stopping said behavior at their behest. It's another to be a complete asshat.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Hmm, part of me thinks that the FDA went a bit far on that one.

topsemag55

Thanks, man.

[QUOTE="Lost-Memory"].... Come to canada and see what our cigarette packs look like, you can't buy a pack without an open brain, disgusting teeth, or other not quite as bad sights on the pack. But, I think the government shouldn't try to control what their citizens consume. They have no right. I mean, We're supposed to live in a free country.Nibroc420

No, no it's not.

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Upset? Why? They're just changing the boxes, it's not like they're changing the contents. "Oh no, my box of cancer-sticks now has a label telling me that they cause cancer. The world will end" Seriously, it's not a big deal, it's a picture.Nibroc420

If it's not a big deal than why do you care if the pictures are on the box? If it's not a big deal why do it in the first place?

High end cigar boxes are often very nice. These pictures would ruin them.

So if it's not a big deal (your own words), why would you advocate for it? Graphic pictures are far more than your standard warning label. And like I said, Cigar boxes are often very well made and crafted. A picture of someone's lungs would be a big deal. I am guessing you don't smoke cigars? Having one or two a week is not going to kill you and I have never seen a study that says otherwise. These pictures would be way overboard and that is why I said I would be upset. What's next, pictures of car accidents on vodka bottles?

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"] High end cigar boxes are often very nice. These pictures would ruin them.topsemag55

You can get the best of both worlds: a fancy box that contains individually vaccum sealed Cigars. Yummy.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

If it's not a big deal than why do you care if the pictures are on the box? If it's not a big deal why do it in the first place?

High end cigar boxes are often very nice. These pictures would ruin them.

limpbizkit818

So if it's not a big deal (your own words), why would you advocate for it? Graphic pictures are far more than your standard warning label. And like I said, Cigar boxes are often very well made and crafted. A picture of someone's lungs would be a big deal. I am guessing you don't smoke cigars? Having one or two a week is not going to kill you and I have never seen a study that says otherwise. These pictures would be way overboard and that is why I said I would be upset. What's next, pictures of car accidents on vodka bottles?

What's next, pictures of car accidents on vodka bottles?limpbizkit818

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"] High end cigar boxes are often very nice. These pictures would ruin them.limpbizkit818

You can get the best of both worlds: a fancy box that contains individually vaccum sealed Cigars. Yummy.