Time to leave the UK!

Source.

"In the Queen's speech this autumn Gordon Brown's government will announce a scheme to institute a database of every telephone call, email, and act of online usage by every resident of the UK..."

Depressingly refreshing that the US ain't the only screwed up country, but I live in Canada so ha!

If you don't agree with this, you're a traitor to the crown...nuff said.jointed

Pretty much.

If you don't agree with this, you're a traitor to the crown...nuff said.jointed

I'm Welsh and all Celts hate the Royal Family apparently, so I'm completely against it! :x

[QUOTE="jointed"]If you don't agree with this, you're a traitor to the crown...nuff said.Montaya

Pretty much.

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[QUOTE="jointed"]If you don't agree with this, you're a traitor to the crown...nuff said.-Katsuri-

Pretty much.

Leave.

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[QUOTE="jointed"]If you don't agree with this, you're a traitor to the crown...nuff said.Makemap

Pretty much.

Leave.

That'll make her a traitor, no better than the colonials.

Surely that is against our personal freedoms. If that law gets passed, I imagine there will (or should) be an uproar followed by a riot that brings down the entire government.Samwel_X

Personal freedoms is a thing of the past, some things must be given up for the safety of their country and the people within. Its an inevitable occurrence and its best if people just accept it. I think its a great idea to recognize threats and prevent them.

Hmm. Ever seen Children of Men? We are on that path for sure.Engrish_Major

omg that would suxoh

Hmm. Ever seen Children of Men? We are on that path for sure.Engrish_Major

Children of Men as in Britain being the only civilized country left on earth? Yes....rather. :3

If you don't agree with this, you're a traitor to the crown...nuff said.jointed

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Hmm. Ever seen Children of Men? We are on that path for sure.jointed

Children of Men as in Britain being the only civilized country left on earth? Yes....rather. :3

The world won't be like that.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Hmm. Ever seen Children of Men? We are on that path for sure.jointed

Children of Men as in Britain being the only civilized country left on earth? Yes....rather. :3

If you'd be satisfied with that level of 'civilization'.

If you don't agree with this, you're a traitor to the crown...nuff said.jointed

I bet you went to the proms waving the union jack ... ? :|

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Hmm. Ever seen Children of Men? We are on that path for sure.jointed

Children of Men as in Britain being the only civilized country left on earth? Yes....rather. :3

That is what the people in Britain are told...

If you don't agree with this, you're a traitor to the crown...nuff said.jointed

says who?

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Hmm. Ever seen Children of Men? We are on that path for sure.duxup

Children of Men as in Britain being the only civilized country left on earth? Yes....rather. :3

That is what the people in Britain are told...

You can speculate all you want, but that's the official backstory.

Source.

"In the Queen's speech this autumn Gordon Brown's government will announce a scheme to institute a database of every telephone call, email, and act of online usage by every resident of the UK..."

Depressingly refreshing that the US ain't the only screwed up country, but I live in Canada so ha!

Scarker

Ugh. Yet another country falling to the "Safety>Liberties & Freedom" way of thinking. :(

[QUOTE="jointed"]If you don't agree with this, you're a traitor to the crown...nuff said.soren008

I bet you went to the proms waving the union jack ... ? :|

Not really. I was just joking, go sit down for a bit mate.

Personal freedoms is a thing of the past, some things must be given up for the safety of their country and the people within. Its an inevitable occurrence and its best if people just accept it. I think its a great idea to recognize threats and prevent them.

Montaya

I wouldn't have said there were many threats to security in the UK. And more importantly, we seem to be doing fine preventing these so called "threats" now, without those measures.

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Hmm. Ever seen Children of Men? We are on that path for sure.jointed

Children of Men as in Britain being the only civilized country left on earth? Yes....rather. :3

That is what the people in Britain are told...

You can speculate all you want, but that's the official backstory.

No, that is what we're told by the characters who are told by... the government.

If you watch the whole film it indicates that not everything the government is presenting is accurate.

[QUOTE="Samwel_X"]Surely that is against our personal freedoms. If that law gets passed, I imagine there will (or should) be an uproar followed by a riot that brings down the entire government.Montaya

Personal freedoms is a thing of the past, some things must be given up for the safety of their country and the people within. Its an inevitable occurrence and its best if people just accept it. I think its a great idea to recognize threats and prevent them.

we don't monitor everyone's comunication at the moment and have done fine so far

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Hmm. Ever seen Children of Men? We are on that path for sure.duxup

Children of Men as in Britain being the only civilized country left on earth? Yes....rather. :3

That is what the people in Britain are told...

You can speculate all you want, but that's the official backstory.

No, that is what we're told by the characters who are told by... the government.

If you watch the whole film it indicates that not everything the government is presenting is accurate.

Well, explain the HUGE influx of refugees then. Wikipedia also states:

"The film is set in the year 2027. Due to an unexplained infertility pandemic, no human children have been born in any part of the world for more than eighteen years. The world has descended into chaos with most governments in the world collapsing, leaving the United Kingdom as one of the sole organised societies."

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Hmm. Ever seen Children of Men? We are on that path for sure.jointed

Children of Men as in Britain being the only civilized country left on earth? Yes....rather. :3

That is what the people in Britain are told...

You can speculate all you want, but that's the official backstory.

No, that is what we're told by the characters who are told by... the government.

If you watch the whole film it indicates that not everything the government is presenting is accurate.

Well, explain the HUGE influx of refugees then. Wikipedia also states:

"The film is set in the year 2027. Due to an unexplained infertility pandemic, no human children have been born in any part of the world for more than eighteen years. The world has descended into chaos with most governments in the world collapsing, leaving the United Kingdom as one of the sole organised societies."

I think you're missing the point of the film. The story is setup that way but very quickly you learn that the people in the UK aren't being told the whole truth. This is reinforced as the film goes on.

That's not saying that everything is ok outside the UK, but clearly the story they're fed by the government is not accurate.

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Hmm. Ever seen Children of Men? We are on that path for sure.duxup

Children of Men as in Britain being the only civilized country left on earth? Yes....rather. :3

That is what the people in Britain are told...

You can speculate all you want, but that's the official backstory.

No, that is what we're told by the characters who are told by... the government.

If you watch the whole film it indicates that not everything the government is presenting is accurate.

Well, explain the HUGE influx of refugees then. Wikipedia also states:

"The film is set in the year 2027. Due to an unexplained infertility pandemic, no human children have been born in any part of the world for more than eighteen years. The world has descended into chaos with most governments in the world collapsing, leaving the United Kingdom as one of the sole organised societies."

I think you're missing the point of the film. The story is setup that way but very quickly you learn that the people in the UK aren't being told the whole truth. This is reinforced as the film goes on.

That's not saying that everything is ok outside the UK, but clearly the story they're fed by the government is not accurate.

I'm not missing the point at all, I understand what you're trying to say but there's references to how screwed up the outside world is throughout the movie. For example, in the Bexhill ghetto you see French, American and German refugees march around with their flags held high.

But it doesn't matter since it was just meant as a joke...no big deal.

[QUOTE="Samwel_X"]Surely that is against our personal freedoms. If that law gets passed, I imagine there will (or should) be an uproar followed by a riot that brings down the entire government.Montaya

Personal freedoms is a thing of the past, some things must be given up for the safety of their country and the people within. Its an inevitable occurrence and its best if people just accept it. I think its a great idea to recognize threats and prevent them.

[QUOTE="Montaya"]

[QUOTE="Samwel_X"]Surely that is against our personal freedoms. If that law gets passed, I imagine there will (or should) be an uproar followed by a riot that brings down the entire government.LJS9502_basic

Personal freedoms is a thing of the past, some things must be given up for the safety of their country and the people within. Its an inevitable occurrence and its best if people just accept it. I think its a great idea to recognize threats and prevent them.

Truer words never spoken. 1984 anyone? seriousilly New Zealand looks better ever day. But the thing is that this doesn't upset me as much as the apathy that some would have towards it.

I very much doubt that this is true.

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Personal freedoms is a thing of the past, some things must be given up for the safety of their country and the people within. Its an inevitable occurrence and its best if people just accept it. I think its a great idea to recognize threats and prevent them.

Samwel_X

I wouldn't have said there were many threats to security in the UK. And more importantly, we seem to be doing fine preventing these so called "threats" now, without those measures.

Yea. To be honest, stuff like this pisses me off. Why should they constantly be allowed to, affectively, spy on us? It doesn't seem right to me.

For our own safety my arse, they don't care about us, they care about themselves and keeping us under wraps. Our fear is used against us, it's very clever - but it is totally taking advantage of human nature. I think they just dont want us getting out of line, and maybe causing THEM problems.

Surely that is against our personal freedoms. If that law gets passed, I imagine there will (or should) be an uproar followed by a riot that brings down the entire government.Samwel_X

...then the US would come in to try and fix everything....

Hmm, that's strange I didn't know the Queen had any power in the UK anymore. I thought the Prime Minister had the power and she was a status symbol or something.cowboymonkey21

Hmm, that's strange I didn't know the Queen had any power in the UK anymore. I thought the Prime Minister had the power and she was a status symbol or something.cowboymonkey21

Nah shes still got alot of power and still does alot of stuff to this day,

Bummer.

*loads AK*

Let's hit the town chaps.

Hmm, that's strange I didn't know the Queen had any power in the UK anymore. I thought the Prime Minister had the power and she was a status symbol or something.cowboymonkey21

She holds the rights to the Royal Ascention of Acts of Parliament, which is basically the rubber stamp at the end, but she hasn't withheld this since 1708.

If you don't agree with this, you're a traitor to the crown...nuff said.jointed