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#1 Planet_Pluto
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From the Article:

Big Brother is joining the battle of the bulge.

A group of Long Island students will soon be wearing controversial electronic monitors that allow school officials to track their physical activity around the clock.

The athletics chair for the Bay Shore schools ordered 10 Polar Active monitors, at $90 a pop, for use starting this spring. Thedevices count heartbeats, detect motion and even track students' sleeping habits in a bid to combat obesity.

The information is displayed on a color-coded screen and gets transmitted to a password-protected Web site that students and educators can access.


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Teachers use hand-held computers to collect data from each student's wrist monitor during cl@ss then upload the information to the school computer system for storage and long-term tracking.


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"I didn't even know it was going on, and I'm active in the school," said Beth Huebner, of St. Louis.

Her son, a fourth-grader, wore a Polar Active monitor in cl@ss without her OK last fall at Ross Elementary School.

"We have gotten no information about the Web-site security or where the data will go," Huebner said.

"When you get into monitoring people's biological vital signs, that's a pretty intrusive measurement," said Jay Stanley, of the American Civil Liberties Union. "There are key privacy interests at play."

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A program like this should only be voluntary. Nobody should be forced to reveal biological indicators," he said.

"It's all about secondary use," said Virginia Rezmierski, an expert on information technology and privacy at the University of Michigan.

"Does the data pass along with the child from school to school? When will insurance companies want to get access to it? Will a school want to medicate a child that the monitor identifies as hyperactive? It's potentially very dangerous ground."


Full Article: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/schools_spy_on_fat_kids_HpPAgsKXPYjt1EWFfaNp9K?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

So, it's not enough that some schools now ban parents from packing their childrens' lunches, but now they want the ability/right to be "involved" with students outside of school hours?

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#2 gamerguru100
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While the intentions might be good, it just smells fishy. It seems a little bit too stalkerish.

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#3 Masculus
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All they need to do is find the nearest Fast Food joint to track them!

I wonder where people get such stupid ideas...

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#4 TheFatPerson
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I am so glad to be out of elementary school because of crap like this. It's not the school's job to parent these kids. That should be left and kept responsible by the people inside their homes.

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#5 Jesus_on_fire
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I am so glad to be out of elementary school because of crap like this. It's not the school's job to parent these kids. That should be left and kept responsible by the people inside their homes.

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What an ironic username :lol:

[spoiler] I agree with you [/spoiler]

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#6 TheFatPerson
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[QUOTE="TheFatPerson"]

I am so glad to be out of elementary school because of crap like this. It's not the school's job to parent these kids. That should be left and kept responsible by the people inside their homes.

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What an ironic username :lol:

Well, i don't care what the schools say.

[spoiler] I love my hot pockets and vidya gaems. [/spoiler]

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#7 daqua_99
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What is this going to achieve? At a minimum it should be voluntary, if that.
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If its voluntary, it may be a good way to get some useful information about obesity and children. If it's madatory, then that's a little creepy.

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If its voluntary, it may be a good way to get some useful information about obesity and children. If it's madatory, then that's a little creepy.

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Might depend on the school. The article states, "In the South Orange-Maplewood School District, where earlier versions of the devices have been used for two years, upper-grade students' marks in phys ed are based in part on heart-rate monitors and activity sensors."

I'd say if they are basing some grades on the information obtained from the devices, it is mandatory.



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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

If its voluntary, it may be a good way to get some useful information about obesity and children. If it's madatory, then that's a little creepy.

Planet_Pluto

Might depend on the school. The article states, "In the South Orange-Maplewood School District, where earlier versions of the devices have been used for two years, upper-grade students' marks in phys ed are based in part on heart-rate monitors and activity sensors."

I'd say if they are basing some grades on the information obtained from the devices, it is mandatory.



That's a little creepy then. If it was an organized study where researchers were looking into childhood obesity, that would be one thing. Those studies have informed consent and must abide by certain safety protocols. May be useful in combating the problem. However, it it's just government mandated monitoring then I'm not for it.

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

This a is a facepalm moment if I've ever read one.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

This a is a facepalm moment if I've ever read one.

You're just mad because you have to wear a monitor. :P
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#13 Jackc8
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"There are key privacy interests at play."

Love the way they phrased that :D

"How come Johny always has such a high heart rate 10 minutes after he goes to bed?"

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expect suicide rates to skyrocket for kids.

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Dare I guess a future upgrade model will feature the ability to give them a shock if they reach for something a teacher don't think they should eat?
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Dare I guess a future upgrade model will feature the ability to give them a shock if they reach for something a teacher don't think they should eat?Treflis
I'd say if schools are claiming that they are combating big problems, maybe next will be mandatory blood/urine drug tests?

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This is why I don't like public education. Heaven forbid there's fat kids.

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[QUOTE="Treflis"]Dare I guess a future upgrade model will feature the ability to give them a shock if they reach for something a teacher don't think they should eat?Planet_Pluto

I'd say if schools are claiming that they are combating big problems, maybe next will be mandatory blood/urine drug tests?

every problem is a big problem and must be confronted NOW! every problem other than poor scholastic performance that is.

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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="Treflis"]Dare I guess a future upgrade model will feature the ability to give them a shock if they reach for something a teacher don't think they should eat?surrealnumber5

I'd say if schools are claiming that they are combating big problems, maybe next will be mandatory blood/urine drug tests?

every problem is a big problem and must be confronted NOW! every problem other than poor scholastic performance that is.

I was just beginning to chuckle....... until I realized how sad it is that what you wrote is exactly the truth. :(

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#20 TehFuneral
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I hope South Park does an episode about this.

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No comment.

I reckon they should let the parents/guardians handle it.

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#25 Zurrur
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Its always parents fault if their kid is fat

There should be very large tax if you have fat kids

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#26 surrealnumber5
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Its always parents fault if their kid is fat

There should be very large tax if you have fat kids

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all for it as long as we first do the ugly tax, dumb tax, not surrealnumber tax, and FU tax.

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#27 Planet_Pluto
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Its always parents fault if their kid is fat

There should be very large tax if you have fat kids

Zurrur

Well, since clearly the government knows how to raise children better than said childrens' parents, perhaps the government should give families some sort of coupon-book which contains permission slips to purchase only the type and amounts of food that a family can stock their pantry shelves with.

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#28 coolbeans90
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Yeah, umm, this is p. sketch if mandatory.

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Oh god its happening.

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Stupid fat kids!

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#31 Wolf-Man2006
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Umm... Isn't that the parents' jobs to check on their kids' weights?

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Sounds like a great lawsuit.
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I hate it when GameSpot messes up, and double posts AND doesn't count my posts.

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What we need is enforced exercise regimens for everyone in America.
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#35 Wolf-Man2006
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What we need is enforced exercise regimens for everyone in America.Jandurin

Only problem is that because kids apparently get hurt during physical activities, most parents will more likely sue the school

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]What we need is enforced exercise regimens for everyone in America.Wolf-Man2006

Only problem is that because kids apparently get hurt during physical activities, most parents will more likely sue the school

The parents would be doing the exercise too.
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What we need is enforced exercise regimens for everyone in America.Jandurin
or we could grade people on performance in gym again, OR, and this would be my dream case, we could stop giving a flying fudge about what other people do and how they live their life.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]What we need is enforced exercise regimens for everyone in America.surrealnumber5
or we could grade people on performance in gym again, OR, and this would be my dream case, we could stop giving a flying fudge about what other people do and how they live their life.

sorry, your dream is bad And what do grades have to do with people exercising.
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thats embarrasing for the kids

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Good.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]What we need is enforced exercise regimens for everyone in America.surrealnumber5
or we could grade people on performance in gym again, OR, and this would be my dream case, we could stop giving a flying fudge about what other people do and how they live their life.

No. All women must be size zero and everyone should be in the mid range of their perfect BMI. Also everyone must dye their hair blond and blue contact lenses will be supplied to all those not of pure blood.

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And what do grades have to do with people exercising.Jandurin

They're supposed to make fat people feel bad about being fat. Bullying works too, but we outlawed that.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]What we need is enforced exercise regimens for everyone in America.Jandurin
or we could grade people on performance in gym again, OR, and this would be my dream case, we could stop giving a flying fudge about what other people do and how they live their life.

sorry, your dream is bad And what do grades have to do with people exercising.

what is bad about my dream? and having gym that is not based on work is not gym. but really what is bad about people not being able to force their views on you? what is bad about letting people live the life they want to live?
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everyone should be in the mid range of their perfect BMI. Also everyone must dye their hair blond and blue contact lenses will be supplied to all those not of pure blood.

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It's like you're describing me.
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What we really need to do is enforce our obscenity laws and get these fat women out of these leggings.
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A child being very overweight is the fault of one of two things

1 The Parents for allowing a child to eat so much and not work out

2 The school for allowing a child to be bullied(a key source for being over weight)

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] And what do grades have to do with people exercising.coolbeans90

They're supposed to make fat people feel bad about being fat. Bullying works too, but we outlawed that.

I don't think fat people should feel bad. I just think they should exercise. If they remain fat, that just means they're wealthy.
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] And what do grades have to do with people exercising.Jandurin

They're supposed to make fat people feel bad about being fat. Bullying works too, but we outlawed that.

I don't think fat people should feel bad. I just think they should exercise.

Which is why we make them feel bad.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] or we could grade people on performance in gym again, OR, and this would be my dream case, we could stop giving a flying fudge about what other people do and how they live their life. surrealnumber5
sorry, your dream is bad And what do grades have to do with people exercising.

what is bad about my dream? and having gym that is not based on work is not gym. but really what is bad about people not being able to force their views on you? what is bad about letting people live the life they want to live?

People need direction and guidance or they become a burden to me. Are you saying they should be free to live the way they want and cost me more because of it? Nay, I say.
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

everyone should be in the mid range of their perfect BMI. Also everyone must dye their hair blond and blue contact lenses will be supplied to all those not of pure blood.

Jandurin

It's like you're describing me.

Really? I dont see it :P

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