Republicans look to change election rules

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Essentially, a district with 5,000 people would have the save vote as a district with 50,000.

Sad. Come on republicans; you win some, you lose some. No need to take the ball with you when you go home.

Time to get rid of the EC.DaBrainz

Yup.

They are worried that this is the only way for them to stay competitive at the national level. It's beginning to look like the electoral college - as is - is systemically unfavorable to the GOP. All things being equal I don't see how the republican party can survive nationally in a minority-majority country without a handicap.

They are worried that this is the only way for them to stay competitive at the national level. It's beginning to look like the electoral college - as is - is systemically unfavorable to the GOP. All things being equal I don't see how the republican party can survive nationally in a minority-majority country without a handicap.

-Sun_Tzu-

That's not how democracy is done.

Get rid of the electorial college all together. Pass a bill requiring electoral delegates to vote according to the results of the nation wide popular vote.. By pass the entire system.

Get rid of the electorial college all together. Pass a bill requiring electoral delegates to vote according to the results of the nation wide popular vote.. By pass the entire system.

UnknownSniper65

Wish we had Gore win over dubya in 2000

Get rid of the electorial college all together. Pass a bill requiring electoral delegates to vote according to the results of the nation wide popular vote.. By pass the entire system.

UnknownSniper65

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

They are worried that this is the only way for them to stay competitive at the national level. It's beginning to look like the electoral college - as is - is systemically unfavorable to the GOP. All things being equal I don't see how the republican party can survive nationally in a minority-majority country without a handicap.

br0kenrabbit

That's not how democracy is done.

Democracy?

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

They are worried that this is the only way for them to stay competitive at the national level. It's beginning to look like the electoral college - as is - is systemically unfavorable to the GOP. All things being equal I don't see how the republican party can survive nationally in a minority-majority country without a handicap.

-Sun_Tzu-

That's not how democracy is done.

Democracy?

*sigh*

We need a king.

How about me?

:D

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:(

Well, they can't play 4 quarters of football so they're trying to end the game after 3 quarters when they're ahead. DroidPhysX

haha, I like that statement :)

I thought rezoning voting districts was the domain of democrats. You sad republicans.

Basically gerrymandering taken to the extreme. What is funny, however, is election and voter fraud seems to have always been a part of American life. A Democratic boat took voters up the Mississippi so they could vote in 3 separate locations, basically ensuring Polk's win over Clay in 1844, for example:P

I still don't get why states are allowed to decide what they do in a federal election.

IF they can legally do this, states just have way too much power, and the constitution needs serious ammending.

This is a tacit admission that the GOP doesn't see itself winning in 2016. Really sad.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

They are worried that this is the only way for them to stay competitive at the national level. It's beginning to look like the electoral college - as is - is systemically unfavorable to the GOP. All things being equal I don't see how the republican party can survive nationally in a minority-majority country without a handicap.

br0kenrabbit

That's not how democracy is done.

If Republicans can't get elected they could always join the Democratic party and run on practically the same policies. Just calm down on gay marriage and abortion a bit.MrPraline

Now, this is just words at this point and they may change their minds, but in at least those two states it looks like they've done the math that the backlash against this wouldn't be worth it and/or it would never withstand judicial challenge. nocoolnamejim

Whether it passes in any state or not, it just makes clear that the intent of those who support such a measure is not democracy.

more proof they need ignorant village folk to win votes.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]Now, this is just words at this point and they may change their minds, but in at least those two states it looks like they've done the math that the backlash against this wouldn't be worth it and/or it would never withstand judicial challenge. br0kenrabbit

Whether it passes in any state or not, it just makes clear that the intent of those who support such a measure is not democracy.

If Republicans can't get elected they could always join the Democratic party and run on practically the same policies. Just calm down on gay marriage and abortion a bit.MrPraline

Obviously not. Just like the voter suppression attempts from last election, the intent of something like this is naked partisanship to try and win by, bluntly, cheating.nocoolnamejim

Pretty much shenanigans all around. I can't wait for the GOP to cease existing. If a real financially conservative party stepped up and kept their hands out of our bedrooms and off our women they might do just fine. But this bull$hit isn't going to fly.

If Republicans can't get elected they could always join the Democratic party and run on practically the same policies. Just calm down on gay marriage and abortion a bit.MrPraline

This is the conundrum Republicans face, in order to be more electable they are going to need to move further to the left, no question about it.

What was considered Liberal 10 years ago is now moderate and closer in line with what the majority of Americans want at this point.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]If Republicans can't get elected they could always join the Democratic party and run on practically the same policies. Just calm down on gay marriage and abortion a bit.nocoolnamejim

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]If Republicans can't get elected they could always join the Democratic party and run on practically the same policies. Just calm down on gay marriage and abortion a bit.MrPraline

This is a tacit admission that the GOP doesn't see itself winning in 2016. Really sad.

jimkabrhel

I think Chris Christie can win with the current system. It might not even be that close if the Dems nominate a John Kerry/Mitt Romney "robotic politician" type.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

This is a tacit admission that the GOP doesn't see itself winning in 2016. Really sad.

JML897

I think Chris Christie can win with the current system. It might not even be that close if the Dems nominate a John Kerry/Mitt Romney "robotic politician" type.

With the way he has been speaking this year, I don't think Christ Christie passes the GOP purity test, not any more. He might win a decent number of Democratic votes, if the Dem's are dissatisfied with their candidate, but I don't think Christie gets that far.

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

This is a tacit admission that the GOP doesn't see itself winning in 2016. Really sad.

jimkabrhel

I think Chris Christie can win with the current system. It might not even be that close if the Dems nominate a John Kerry/Mitt Romney "robotic politician" type.

With the way he has been speaking this year, I don't think Christ Christie passes the GOP purity test, not any more. He might win a decent number of Democratic votes, if the Dem's are dissatisfied with their candidate, but I don't think Christie gets that far.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

This is a tacit admission that the GOP doesn't see itself winning in 2016. Really sad.

JML897

I think Chris Christie can win with the current system. It might not even be that close if the Dems nominate a John Kerry/Mitt Romney "robotic politician" type.

Hoping Hillary Clinton runs, its her last shot (age) for an 8 year run.

I did vote for Kerry over dubya, but I like Hillary as the frontrunner.

If Republicans can't get elected they could always join the Democratic party and run on practically the same policies. Just calm down on gay marriage and abortion a bit.MrPraline

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]If Republicans can't get elected they could always join the Democratic party and run on practically the same policies. Just calm down on gay marriage and abortion a bit.-Sun_Tzu-

Romney couldn't calm down on Romneycare, so IDK.

American politics: shades of neoliberalism

it's 2013, not 1805.. i think we can handle managing a straight popular vote at this point... and can we move election day to the weekend please? there's really no need for it being on a tuesday anymore.comp_atkins

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]it's 2013, not 1805.. i think we can handle managing a straight popular vote at this point... and can we move election day to the weekend please? there's really no need for it being on a tuesday anymore.nocoolnamejim

Isn't it easier to just stop being the party that hates brown/black people, single women and homosexuals? It doesn't even have to be for real, at least not from the get go. Just fake it for a few years and it will come naturally with time.

The electoral college system is outdated and stupid. And I'm all in favor of having a mixed voting system between the popular vote and the electoral college vote.

Isn't it easier to just stop being the party that hates brown/black people, single women and homosexuals? It doesn't even have to be for real, at least not from the get go. Just fake it for a few years and it will come naturally with time.

LordQuorthon

The republican party doesn't hate any of those groups....how many republicans do you actually know? Or were you just generalizing?

The electoral college system is outdated and stupid. And I'm all in favor of having a mixed voting system between the popular vote and the electoral college vote.

ShadowMoses900

What exactly do you have in mind?

haha, so funny to see how transparent the GOP is.

The electoral college system is outdated and stupid. And I'm all in favor of having a mixed voting system between the popular vote and the electoral college vote.

ShadowMoses900