Atheists, it's not like if you don't believe in god you're going to go to hell. But why not just do it to make everyone else happy? Why must you be defiant.:|
Atheists, it's not like if you don't believe in god you're going to go to hell. But why not just do it to make everyone else happy? Why must you be defiant.:|BananaNuts
[QUOTE="BananaNuts"]Atheists, it's not like if you don't believe in god you're going to go to hell. But why not just do it to make everyone else happy? Why must you be defiant.:|thriteenthmonke
Because you should only believe in something to make everyone else happy? I believe in God but i dont think everyone else should believe the same thing I do just to make me happy.
It is more equitable to believe in god than it isn't to be quite honest. If I don't believe in god and I end up being wrong I go straight to either limbo or heck. If I do believe in god and end up being wrong I get nothing. Not to mention, believing takes relatively little time out of your day to day life. So in return for a marginal ammount of time, you have the option of eternal bliss or nothingness, as opposed to not believing and being sent to heck for all eternity because you didn't spend like 10 minutes praying or something.
It is more equitable to believe in god than it isn't to be quite honest. If I don't believe in god and I end up being wrong I go straight to either limbo or heck. If I do believe in god and end up being wrong I get nothing. Not to mention, believing takes relatively little time out of your day to day life. So in return for a marginal ammount of time, you have the option of eternal bliss or nothingness, as opposed to not believing and being sent to heck for all eternity because you didn't spend like 10 minutes praying or something. Vandalvideo
So, I should believe out of fear of the consequences? Which interpretation of God's word should I believe? Catholic? Eastern Orthodox? Sufi? Sunni? Baptist? Scientology?
[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]Because their is no proof of god's existence. Give me some proof that he exists and I'll follow your logic.BananaNuts
Nobody has a true answer to the question at hand because, well. Theres no good reason not to believe in the almighty. I'll give you reasons not to believe in a god. Because there is no proof of his existence, and science provides a more reasonable explanation to the earth's creation. Also, science has already disproved many things written in the bible, so why is it right about creation?
Why believe in something you cannot prove to exist, outside an ancient text? What would be the point in believing in this god "to make everyone else happy"? That's not true faith according to your religion, so wouldn't that end us in hell anyway? What's the point in believing in just one religion when there are hundreds of other demoninations and religious faiths that are just as 'right' or 'accurate' as the next?
So, I should believe out of fear of the consequences? Which interpretation of God's word should I believe? Catholic? Eastern Orthodox? Sufi? Sunni? Baptist? Scientology? bogaty
Who said anything about fear? I'm merely rationalizing it and showing that it is more equitable to believe in god, as in time return and risk v. reward than it isn't. If you want to be a pragmatist, it is better to believe in god.
It is more equitable to believe in god than it isn't to be quite honest. If I don't believe in god and I end up being wrong I go straight to either limbo or heck. If I do believe in god and end up being wrong I get nothing. Not to mention, believing takes relatively little time out of your day to day life. So in return for a marginal ammount of time, you have the option of eternal bliss or nothingness, as opposed to not believing and being sent to heck for all eternity because you didn't spend like 10 minutes praying or something. Vandalvideo
Atheists, it's not like if you don't believe in god you're going to go to hell. But why not just do it to make everyone else happy? Why must you be defiant.:|BananaNuts
Because Atheists are worshippers of Science H Logic,worshipping god would go against their doctrine :wink:
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]It is more equitable to believe in god than it isn't to be quite honest. If I don't believe in god and I end up being wrong I go straight to either limbo or heck. If I do believe in god and end up being wrong I get nothing. Not to mention, believing takes relatively little time out of your day to day life. So in return for a marginal ammount of time, you have the option of eternal bliss or nothingness, as opposed to not believing and being sent to heck for all eternity because you didn't spend like 10 minutes praying or something. Red-XIII
So what religion is the right one then? Muslim obviously.
[QUOTE="Red-XIII"] So what religion is the right one then? *Shrugs* Do I look all knowing? I'm merely saying that it is more equitable *to believe* than *to not believe*. Choose which religion you will. I personally believe in all religions, so I've touched base.
It is more equitable to believe in god than it isn't to be quite honest. If I don't believe in god and I end up being wrong I go straight to either limbo or heck. If I do believe in god and end up being wrong I get nothing. Not to mention, believing takes relatively little time out of your day to day life. So in return for a marginal ammount of time, you have the option of eternal bliss or nothingness, as opposed to not believing and being sent to heck for all eternity because you didn't spend like 10 minutes praying or something. Vandalvideo
That argument would work if it were the case that people could believe something just because they wanted to. The problem is that that isn't true. The best someone can do is lie to themselves - they will believe what seems to them as being the likeliest thing to be true regardless.
It's not like believing in God will get you to heaven either... Hmm? 5000th post? Nice.supercubedude64
depends on the religion you believe in. this isn't true for the majority of christian faith. also i disagree with the TS idea, why should someone have to believe something to make you (or anyone else) happy? subsequently why does it make you upset if someone doesn't believe in god? isn't it their right to believe or not believe? what bearing does it have on you personally.... oh thats right, it doesn't have one
being that i'm primarily buddhist in my belief structure i accept all peaceful, non judgemental religious points of view (the non judgemental part rules out a bit of christianity which i can't stand) however i don't ask or expect anyone else to believe what i do. everybodys personal beliefs are individual of that person and their life experiences.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Red-XIII"] So what religion is the right one then? *Shrugs* Do I look all knowing? I'm merely saying that it is more equitable *to believe* than *to not believe*. Choose which religion you will. I personally believe in all religions, so I've touched base. You believe the teachings of every religion?
SInce I haven't seen a single bit of proof that we were created by a being who was can do everything and anything, I and everyone else with sense can very much NOT believe in such blasphamy.
[QUOTE="AnObscureName"] You believe the teachings of every religion? Yeah, and don't ask me to explain. It is a convoluted hodgepodge of Immanuel Kant and theology. It is hard to express in english as well because we speak in absolutes.
So where is this Hell your talking about?Overrated_Hero
its in michigan. google for pics
also as for the creation of the universe, check out stephen hawkings ideas on this, they're quite interesting. also "the universe in a nutshell" is a really good read.
Atheists, it's not like if you don't believe in god you're going to go to hell. But why not just do it to make everyone else happy? Why must you be defiant.:|BananaNuts
Cause it makes me happy knowing I'm not giving praise to a non exsitant being. I like real things.
[QUOTE="bogaty"]So, I should believe out of fear of the consequences? Which interpretation of God's word should I believe? Catholic? Eastern Orthodox? Sufi? Sunni? Baptist? Scientology? Vandalvideo
Who said anything about fear? I'm merely rationalizing it and showing that it is more equitable to believe in god, as in time return and risk v. reward than it isn't. If you want to be a pragmatist, it is better to believe in god. As an agnostic, I believe that if God exists, he surely will only allow agnostics into heaven. Thus, it's better to be agnostic since it will get you into heaven, so you might as well start believing that you have no belief either way.
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