[QUOTE="SeanDog123"]Does that mean they are happier? Last time I checked life is about the pursuit of happiness, not the pursuit of a high IQ.wstfld
Where do you check on that? I forgot what life was about. I'm gonna assume everyone wants to be happy, right? I just feel as though the TC was implying that Atheists are smart therefore lead better lives than Theists, when this argument does nothing to show that.
[QUOTE="SeanDog123"]Does that mean they are happier? Last time I checked life is about the pursuit of happiness, not the pursuit of a high IQ.bigblunt537
Who said life is the pursuit of happiness... Last time I checked leaves aren't happy neither is grass.
I'm talking about human life, did I say leaves or grass?
[QUOTE="wstfld"][QUOTE="SeanDog123"]Does that mean they are happier? Last time I checked life is about the pursuit of happiness, not the pursuit of a high IQ.SeanDog123
Where do you check on that? I forgot what life was about. I'm gonna assume everyone wants to be happy, right? I just feel as though the TC was implying that Atheists are smart therefore lead better lives than Theists, when this argument does nothing to show that. This isn't an argument. Those with higher IQs are atheists and liberals (according to this study). TC does not imply or extrapolate anything beyond that.
[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="wstfld"] Where do you check on that? I forgot what life was about.wstfld
I'm gonna assume everyone wants to be happy, right? I just feel as though the TC was implying that Atheists are smart therefore lead better lives than Theists, when this argument does nothing to show that. This isn't an argument. Those with higher IQs are atheists and liberals (according to this study). TC does not imply or extrapolate anything beyond that. The "=" in the title says different.
Bailey also said that these preferences may stem from a desire to show superiority or elitism, which also has to do with IQ. In fact, aligning oneself with "unconventional" philosophies such as liberalism or atheism may be "ways to communicate to everyone that you're pretty smart," he said. Article
Considering people and experiences I've known in the past combined with the small gap in reported IQ averages, this idea seems to have some merit, particularly in terms of liberalism. Atheism makes sense since, in my experience, those who are more intelligent/consider themselves more intelligent accept little without what they consider to be concrete proof. The sexually exclusive trait is interesting and a little surprising - explained by increased self control? Perhaps more intelligent people are simply less likely to be caught?
[QUOTE="SeanDog123"] I'm gonna assume everyone wants to be happy, right? I just feel as though the TC was implying that Atheists are smart therefore lead better lives than Theists, when this argument does nothing to show that.Theokhoth
This isn't an argument. Those with higher IQs are atheists and liberals (according to this study). TC does not imply or extrapolate anything beyond that. The "=" in the title says different. I'm sorry. I still haven't spotted "happiness" in the thread title or in TC's first post. Can you help me out?
[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="wstfld"] Where do you check on that? I forgot what life was about.wstfld
I'm gonna assume everyone wants to be happy, right? I just feel as though the TC was implying that Atheists are smart therefore lead better lives than Theists, when this argument does nothing to show that. This isn't an argument. Those with higher IQs are atheists and liberals (according to this study). TC does not imply or extrapolate anything beyond that. Well if he was simply giving us this information as a tool of discussion, than I have no problem. I think many will infer that this topic is trying to show that theists are stupid and atheists are smart. For the record, I'm an atheist.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="wstfld"] This isn't an argument. Those with higher IQs are atheists and liberals (according to this study). TC does not imply or extrapolate anything beyond that.
wstfld
The "=" in the title says different. I'm sorry. I still haven't spotted "happiness" in the thread title or in TC's first post. Can you help me out?
[QUOTE="Article"]Bailey also said that these preferences may stem from a desire to show superiority or elitism, which also has to do with IQ. In fact, aligning oneself with "unconventional" philosophies such as liberalism or atheism may be "ways to communicate to everyone that you're pretty smart," he said. mattbbpl
Considering people and experiences I've known in the past combined with the small gap in reported IQ averages, this idea seems to have some merit, particularly in terms of liberalism. Atheism makes sense since, in my experience, those who are more intelligent/consider themselves more intelligent accept little without what they consider to be concrete proof. The sexually exclusive trait is interesting and a little surprising - explained by increased self control? Perhaps more intelligent people are simply less likely to be caught? Being that I possess many of the qualities that are spoken of in this article I will try and answer the sexual exclusivity question for you. Unlike most men who desire many women I would prefer one who I share qualities with and whom I would love to always be around. Someone whom I can have a conversation with and not become bored. That's just me though. I wouldn't want to be with many women who were only physically attractive to me, I prefer a physically and intellectually attractive woman.
[QUOTE="SeanDog123"]Does that mean they are happier? Last time I checked life is about the pursuit of happiness, not the pursuit of a high IQ.SeanDog123
Who said life is the pursuit of happiness... Last time I checked leaves aren't happy neither is grass.
I'm talking about human life, did I say leaves or grass?
You didn't say leaves or grass, but you didn't say human life either and life is life. Whether it's a single cell organism, a plant, or a human it's still life. Also how do you know that the person with the higher IQ isn't happier than the person with the lwoer IQ?
[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Article"]Bailey also said that these preferences may stem from a desire to show superiority or elitism, which also has to do with IQ. In fact, aligning oneself with "unconventional" philosophies such as liberalism or atheism may be "ways to communicate to everyone that you're pretty smart," he said. RAMRODtheMASTER
Considering people and experiences I've known in the past combined with the small gap in reported IQ averages, this idea seems to have some merit, particularly in terms of liberalism. Atheism makes sense since, in my experience, those who are more intelligent/consider themselves more intelligent accept little without what they consider to be concrete proof. The sexually exclusive trait is interesting and a little surprising - explained by increased self control? Perhaps more intelligent people are simply less likely to be caught? Being that I possess many of the qualities that are spoken of in this article I will try and answer the sexual exclusivity question for you. Unlike most men who desire many women I would prefer one who I share qualities with and whom I would love to always be around. Someone whom I can have a conversation with and not become bored. That's just me though. I wouldn't want to be with many women who were only physically attractive to me, I prefer a physically and intellectually attractive woman. I understand the benefits of being exclusive, I was just wondering why the article reports that more intelligent people are more likely to partake in the practice.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]One person's correlations, do not fact make....LJS9502_basic
Sorry, I can be a grammar nazi sometimes.
One...it's called a typo. Two...it's a dangerous hobby.;) I know, you should hear a conversation between me and another person, I correct people in real life as well if it really annoys me. Not one of my more like-able traits.
[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Considering people and experiences I've known in the past combined with the small gap in reported IQ averages, this idea seems to have some merit, particularly in terms of liberalism. Atheism makes sense since, in my experience, those who are more intelligent/consider themselves more intelligent accept little without what they consider to be concrete proof. The sexually exclusive trait is interesting and a little surprising - explained by increased self control? Perhaps more intelligent people are simply less likely to be caught?mattbbpl
Being that I possess many of the qualities that are spoken of in this article I will try and answer the sexual exclusivity question for you. Unlike most men who desire many women I would prefer one who I share qualities with and whom I would love to always be around. Someone whom I can have a conversation with and not become bored. That's just me though. I wouldn't want to be with many women who were only physically attractive to me, I prefer a physically and intellectually attractive woman. I understand the benefits of being exclusive, I was just wondering why the article reports that more intelligent people are more likely to partake in the practice.
My hypothesis is that an intelligent person would be more likely to want to firmly establish a close, personal relationship with whomever they're with before having sex. So they would be more into slow relationships and against things like viewing women (or men) as sex objects to have one-night-stands with. They'd probably also be more into safe sex.
One...it's called a typo. Two...it's a dangerous hobby.;) I know, you should hear a conversation between me and another person, I correct people in real life as well if it really annoys me. Not one of my more like-able traits. Well what I meant was it can be modded. Anyway, a typo is NOT a grammatical error.
[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Considering people and experiences I've known in the past combined with the small gap in reported IQ averages, this idea seems to have some merit, particularly in terms of liberalism. Atheism makes sense since, in my experience, those who are more intelligent/consider themselves more intelligent accept little without what they consider to be concrete proof. The sexually exclusive trait is interesting and a little surprising - explained by increased self control? Perhaps more intelligent people are simply less likely to be caught?mattbbpl
Being that I possess many of the qualities that are spoken of in this article I will try and answer the sexual exclusivity question for you. Unlike most men who desire many women I would prefer one who I share qualities with and whom I would love to always be around. Someone whom I can have a conversation with and not become bored. That's just me though. I wouldn't want to be with many women who were only physically attractive to me, I prefer a physically and intellectually attractive woman. I understand the benefits of being exclusive, I was just wondering why the article reports that more intelligent people are more likely to partake in the practice. I would explain it as a more intelligent person has more self control and does not give into the animalistic instincts of wanting many partners as easily. It could be for a completely different reason but that's my take on it.
[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"] Being that I possess many of the qualities that are spoken of in this article I will try and answer the sexual exclusivity question for you. Unlike most men who desire many women I would prefer one who I share qualities with and whom I would love to always be around. Someone whom I can have a conversation with and not become bored. That's just me though. I wouldn't want to be with many women who were only physically attractive to me, I prefer a physically and intellectually attractive woman.Theokhoth
I understand the benefits of being exclusive, I was just wondering why the article reports that more intelligent people are more likely to partake in the practice.
My hypothesis is that an intelligent person would be more likely to want to firmly establish a close, personal relationship with whomever they're with before having sex. So they would be more into slow relationships and against things like viewing women (or men) as sex objects to have one-night-stands with.
Depends on where they are in life. If they want to settle down...yeah. If not....doubtful.
[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] One...it's called a typo. Two...it's a dangerous hobby.;)LJS9502_basic
I know, you should hear a conversation between me and another person, I correct people in real life as well if it really annoys me. Not one of my more like-able traits. Well what I meant was it can be modded. Anyway, a typo is NOT a grammatical error. I added a comma, it seemed rather necessary to me to make a break in the sentence.
[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"] I know, you should hear a conversation between me and another person, I correct people in real life as well if it really annoys me. Not one of my more like-able traits.RAMRODtheMASTER
Well what I meant was it can be modded. Anyway, a typo is NOT a grammatical error. I added a comma, it seemed rather necessary to me to make a break in the sentence. Well actually that would not be correct.;)
[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] I understand the benefits of being exclusive, I was just wondering why the article reports that more intelligent people are more likely to partake in the practice.LJS9502_basic
My hypothesis is that an intelligent person would be more likely to want to firmly establish a close, personal relationship with whomever they're with before having sex. So they would be more into slow relationships and against things like viewing women (or men) as sex objects to have one-night-stands with.
Depends on where they are in life. If they want to settle down...yeah. If not....doubtful. I'm in college and not looking to settle down for a while but if I were to just go on a date with a girl for her looks alone I would feel rather awkward, especially if I came to find that intellectually we had nothing in common and her interests differed greatly from mine. Many guys I know would overlook this because they just want to score with a girl because they are only physically attractive.
My hypothesis is that an intelligent person would be more likely to want to firmly establish a close, personal relationship with whomever they're with before having sex. So they would be more into slow relationships and against things like viewing women (or men) as sex objects to have one-night-stands with.
RAMRODtheMASTER
Depends on where they are in life. If they want to settle down...yeah. If not....doubtful. I'm in college and not looking to settle down for a while but if I were to just go on a date with a girl for her looks alone I would feel rather awkward, especially if I came to find that intellectually we had nothing in common and her interests differed greatly from mine. Many guys I know would overlook this because they just want to score with a girl because they are only physically attractive.So you never date then?
[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Depends on where they are in life. If they want to settle down...yeah. If not....doubtful. LJS9502_basic
I'm in college and not looking to settle down for a while but if I were to just go on a date with a girl for her looks alone I would feel rather awkward, especially if I came to find that intellectually we had nothing in common and her interests differed greatly from mine. Many guys I know would overlook this because they just want to score with a girl because they are only physically attractive.So you never date then? Only if I know that it won't be awkward and I'll actually be able to carry on an interesting conversation with her. You have no idea how awkward I get with a girl if we really have nothing in common. I'll admit it's actually quite sad and I find myself wishing the date was over but I don't break it off immediately so as to not look like a complete d-bag.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Well actually that would not be correct.;)LJS9502_basic
Well it depends on how you were taught I suppose.
One person's correlations makes no sense by itself. Which is how you divided it. And no...it doesn't depend. Actually it can depend, ask three different people to check a single sentence and you may get three different responses. I've done it with multiple English teachers before to compare how they graded as a simple experiment for myself.
Actually it can depend, ask three different people to check a single sentence and you may get three different responses. I've done it with multiple English teachers before to compare how they graded as a simple experiment for myself.RAMRODtheMASTER
Yes but a phrase has to make sense on it's own. Which your editing does not. Anyway, I don't want to go off topic. My grammar was correct.
[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"]Actually it can depend, ask three different people to check a single sentence and you may get three different responses. I've done it with multiple English teachers before to compare how they graded as a simple experiment for myself.LJS9502_basic
Yes but a phrase has to make sense on it's own. Which your editing does not. Anyway, I don't want to go off topic. My grammar was correct. I was just explaining myself, I've written that style of phrase like that many times in my papers for my college writing classes and never once been marked down for grammar, in fact I aced those writing classes.
Well, I guess that makes me half an idiot. :| Besides, I have not found that to be true in my experiences. Usually, it's conservative Christians that at least appear more intelligent. How they perform on IQ tests is a whole different matter.
[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"]Actually it can depend, ask three different people to check a single sentence and you may get three different responses. I've done it with multiple English teachers before to compare how they graded as a simple experiment for myself.RAMRODtheMASTER
Yes but a phrase has to make sense on it's own. Which your editing does not. Anyway, I don't want to go off topic. My grammar was correct. I was just explaining myself, I've written that style of phrase like that many times in my papers for my college writing classes and never once been marked down for grammar, in fact I aced those writing classes. *shrugs* The way you changed my post did not make sense. it's against the rules of grammar. And don't change my posts. Thank you.
well certainly scientific abilities correlate well with atheism as most of the scientists are atheist whereas the majority of people in general have a religion of some kind.
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