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#1 zombiepanda13
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I don't think he shot himself. He had 3X the lethal amount of heroine in his bloodstream, which would have not allowed him to lift a shotgun and make headcheese.

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#2 forgetwatyahear
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I don't think he shot himself. He had 3X the lethal amount of heroine in his bloodstream, which would have not allowed him to lift a shotgun and make headcheese.

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ok.thanks
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#3 MotherSuperior
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Why was he found with half a face then?
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#4 Harshvardhan666
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Who cares?
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#5 TheHimura
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He's dead now. It doesn't matter how he died because it'll never make him come back alive so let's just cherish the music that he made while he was alive and not worry about how he died.
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#6 The_AI
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Wasn't the shotgun placed next to him? I mean, if it was, how would he be able to blow away his own face and then place it beside him?

There was probably some foul play involved. They should have investigated it further. :/

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#7 FUBAR24
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Why was he found with half a face then?MotherSuperior

ya unless he some how rigged a system to where if he moved it pulled the trigger he shot himself

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#8 Bulldog19892
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I also think he was murdered, but it's not like it makes any difference now. He's been dead so long that no one cares anymore.
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#9 BraindeadRacr
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He's dead... Does it really matter how he died? I mean, half a face is 'nuff of a detailed cause for me.

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#10 ConfessiBear
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What was that conspiracy that that guy from the Mentors killed him?
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#11 zombiepanda13
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I heard there was little blood, but maybe I'm wrong. He was probalby drugged, then shot. It's a shame too, such a great musician.
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#12 zombieman666
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I think he was murderd too.
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#13 GrammarKills
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Who cares?Harshvardhan666
I care, he is one of the greatest musicians.
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#14 ragek1ll589
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It was a rouse orchestrated by Courtney Love to propel herself into stardom.

Quick, we must kill her with fire :twisted:

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#15 halfirishhomer
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I assume the people at the crime scene have a better idea about how he died than you do. Everything that you've heard about the case could have been made up for all you know.
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#16 halfirishhomer
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not even close
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#17 Berzz
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He's dead anyway, finding the one who killed him (if that's the case) won't change anything.
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#18 zombiepanda13
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There were rumors Courtney love put a hit on Kurt, but I'm not sure. ANyway, she sucks, telling Kurts fans to call hin an @$$hole at his funeral. She's an @$$hole. So is Hancock!

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#19 zombiepanda13
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There were rumors Courtney love put a hit on Kurt, but I'm not sure. ANyway, she sucks, telling Kurts fans to call hin an @$$hole at his funeral. She's an @$$hole. So is Hancock!

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#20 Bulldog19892
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I assume the people at the crime scene have a better idea about how he died than you do. Everything that you've heard about the case could have been made up for all you know.halfirishhomer
Actually the ones at the crime scene thought it was a murder too, but the judge ruled it a suicide.
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#21 zombiepanda13
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They did, you're right.
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#22 nodgenico
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Well hes dead, I respect him even though I think hes an atrocious guitar player, hes a great song writer however. ;)
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#23 zombiepanda13
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Ya, didn't he have to have some other dude play guitar live?
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#24 Berzz
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Ya, didn't he have to have some other dude play guitar live?zombiepanda13

I'm not sure about that but his songs certainly could be played by a monkey.

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#25 Bulldog19892
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Well hes dead, I respect him even though I think hes an atrocious guitar player, hes a great song writer however. ;)nodgenico
Ya, didn't he have to have some other dude play guitar live?zombiepanda13
No he didn't. Why would you say he was atrocious? Because he wasn't soloing at a thousand beats per minute all the time? His riffs were simple. Simple riffs =/= bad guitar playing.
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#26 zombiepanda13
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I didn't say he was atrocious, I just thought that he had a hard time playing guitar while singing, that's all.
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#27 halfirishhomer
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bad guitar playing=bad guitar playing. If he were a good guitar player it wouldn't be painful to listen to Nirvana.
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#28 zombiepanda13
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[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]bad guitar playing=bad guitar playing. If he were a good guitar player it wouldn't be painful to listen to Nirvana.[/QUOTE}

They rocked, they didn't really kill metal, because it isn't dead, if that's why you hate them.

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#29 halfirishhomer
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you may like their music but you can't actually say they were good musicians
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#30 Berzz
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you may like their music but you can't actually say they were good musicianshalfirishhomer

You don't need good musicians to actually enjoy a band.

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#31 zombiepanda13
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Well, dave grole is. He can play drums, and he sings and guitars for The Foo Fighters now, so he's talented.
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#32 halfirishhomer
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it helps
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#33 Bulldog19892
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you may like their music but you can't actually say they were good musicianshalfirishhomer
I may like their music? I'm glad I have your permission. And I can say they were good musicians, and I will. (By the way, love the Fight Club reference in the sig)
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#34 zombiepanda13
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The sex pistols were bad musicians, but their sound is good.
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#35 Bulldog19892
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The sex pistols were bad musicians, but their sound is good.zombiepanda13
The Sex Pistols were horrible at everything.
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#37 Berzz
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[QUOTE="zombiepanda13"]The sex pistols were bad musicians, but their sound is good.Bulldog19892
The Sex Pistols were horrible at everything.

I second that.

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#38 nodgenico
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Let me clarify, I didn't say I hated Nirvana as a band. I actually like their songs, I like and respect them as a band. But, in my opinion I think Cobain was not a decent guitar player and that his guitar skills are overrated. His technique is sloppy but the riffs are ok. Nothing against the band really, just my opinion on Cobain.
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#39 halfirishhomer
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haha i wasn't giving you permission, let me rephrase. Maybe you like their music, but how can you actually think they're good musicians? And thanks Fight Club's amazing isn't it?
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#41 Berzz
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I see the Sex Pistols as a bunch of sellouts who just were there to give a bad name to punk rock.
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#42 fuzzmuffin
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He died over 10 years and you are talking about his death now? :?

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#43 zombiepanda13
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I see the Sex Pistols as a bunch of sellouts who just were there to give a bad name to punk rock.Berzz

Sellouts, HOW?!?!?!?! You are insane.

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#44 Berzz
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[QUOTE="Berzz"]I see the Sex Pistols as a bunch of sellouts who just were there to give a bad name to punk rock.zombiepanda13

Sellouts, HOW?!?!?!?! You are insane.

All they did in their career was draw attention from the mainstream audiences and that's what they achieved, being a very well known band with alleged "punk" ideologies and being known mostly for all the stupid things they did rather than for the music they made.

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#45 zombiepanda13
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Okay, they were atention (well, IDK if I can say who on this site re.), but they did make good music, and weren't sellouts.

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#46 qubert27
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You do realize that the moment you inject herion, you don't automatically begin to lose control (I don't think at least...).

But, I'm sure Love did it...

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#47 Crimson_Faith
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If there was foul play involved, I would personally love to shake the hands of those responsible. He was a waste of musical talent imo. And he wasnt even that talented. Cant stand him.
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#48 qubert27
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If there was foul play involved, I would personally love to shake the hands of those responsible. He was a waste of musical talent imo. And he wasnt even that talented. Cant stand him. Crimson_Faith

Please say this was a joke? I'm not a fanboy... At all. But, he was a musical genius, one of the greatest songwriters of all time, he had a certain uniqueness that I haven't seen since about '96. As did many grunge artists.

But, to be fair, I looked up some Sevendust lyrics! And I guess the lines:

"Don't you feel like a bi***.

Don't promise s*** you'll never be"

Is better than anything off of In Utero, which title alone, is probably more unique and poetic than anything any artist from this era has written.

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#49 TyrantDragon55
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Ya, didn't he have to have some other dude play guitar live?zombiepanda13

No, he just wanted a rhythm guitarist (who didn't even join the band until their final tour). And Kurt was a great musician, he had a very versatile singing voice (though it was kinda hard to understand what he was saying at times) and just because he didn't play very fast doesn't mean he wasn't a good guitar player, you can't be a good song writter if you don't have at least some skill with your instrument. Besides you can't deny that Smells Like Teen Spirit's intro is one of the most recognizable riffs in all of rock.

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#50 TyrantDragon55
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You do realize that the moment you inject herion, you don't automatically begin to lose control (I don't think at least...).

But, I'm sure Love did it...

qubert27

Well yeah, but why would he bother getting loaded if he was just immediately going to shoot himself? I think the fact that he had been lying in his house dead for a couple of days before anything got reported alone suggests atleast a little foul play.