It's horrible what's happening to Europe.

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#1  Edited By anon
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#2 Drunk_PI
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.......

wat

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#3 JustPlainLucas
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I don't have 20 minutes to watch this. Summarize please.

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@JustPlainLucas said:

I don't have 20 minutes to watch this. Summarize please.

Brown people bad, muslims scary.

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#7 SOedipus
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Europe is a mess and it's because of those bleeding hearts in their governments. I get wanting to help people. But if the people you are willing to let in don't integrate into society, don't want to integrate into society, then it's obvious how that would make the general population feel.

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#8  Edited By lamprey263
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everything from the topic title to the video title to the production logo screams neo-fascist, I'll stop there

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#9  Edited By anon
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@lamprey263: must be a liberal

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#10 lamprey263
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@anon said:

@lamprey263: must be a liberal

but am I wrong?

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#11  Edited By lamprey263
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@anon: Nothing? That's what I thought, go back to jerking off to your copy of Mein Kampf if the pages aren't glued together with your semen. Take @SOedipus with you can shoot the shit about whether you hate Jews or Muslims more.

And, just so everyone else knows it's a Neo-Nazi video, go to the video comments and CTRL+F "Jew" and you'll see just who this video is for.

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#12 SOedipus
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@lamprey263: Clearly we have different views on the subject but I never claimed to hate anyone.

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#13  Edited By gamerguru100
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@jdiggle said:
@sarahf said:
@JustPlainLucas said:

I don't have 20 minutes to watch this. Summarize please.

Brown people bad, muslims scary.

Hulk smash!

LMFAO

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#14 gamerguru100
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Man, Europe is gonna get "culturally enriched" up the ass. Karma, I guess.

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#15  Edited By anon
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@lamprey263: Yeah you are wrong, what they are doing over there is genocide , they think they can cover over there and do whatever the **** they want, did you actually watch the video?

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@anon said:

@lamprey263: Yeah you are wrong, what they are doing over there is genocide , they think they can cover over there and do whatever the **** they want, did you actually watch the video?

genocide? you're soooo full of shit

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#17 servomaster
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It's Europe's own fault for not having more kids.

They have no room to complain. They have declining populations, and Arabs are filling in for the missing people.

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#18  Edited By lamprey263
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here, try this on for size, encouraging assimilation through open arms approach might do better than violence

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#19 servomaster
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@lamprey263: Yeah, Muslims are coming to Europe, whether people like it or not. It's best to just try to be friends, encourage assimilation and help them adapt liberal thinking.

Pushing them away will just drive them back into backward thinking and brew hatred.

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#20  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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Religion of peace?

Well, where's the fucking peace at? I certainly don't see it.

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#21 GazaAli
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I assume this is about the refugees crisis of which Europe is bearing the brunt. As a concerned Arab Muslim myself, I feel bad for Europe; it enrages me that it's at the forefront having to face the calamitous consequences of American insanity. It's a shit stain on that country that Bush and Cheney get to walk around like heroes after what they did to the region. You can reduce a few countries to rubble, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in the process, and spur modern history's largest exodus all in the name of that illusive beer. Filth.

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#22 Gaming-Planet
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Culturally enriched. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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#23  Edited By GazaAli
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@gamerguru100 said:

Man, Europe is gonna get "culturally enriched" up the ass. Karma, I guess.

lol you're one to talk about karma

oh the irony

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#24 Gaming-Planet
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@GazaAli said:
@gamerguru100 said:

Man, Europe is gonna get "culturally enriched" up the ass. Karma, I guess.

lol you're one to talk about karma

oh the irony

Karma for destabilizing the middle east for bankster interests, amirite?

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@Gaming-Planet said:
@GazaAli said:
@gamerguru100 said:

Man, Europe is gonna get "culturally enriched" up the ass. Karma, I guess.

lol you're one to talk about karma

oh the irony

Karma for destabilizing the middle east for bankster interests, amirite?

I'm sure he's referring to colonialist Europe, which is ironic considering American culpability in what's happening right now. I'll go as far as saying what the U.S did to the Middle East over the course of the past two decades surpasses the entirety of colonialist Europe's legacy.

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#26 Stesilaus
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@Gaming-Planet said:

Culturally enriched. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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The introduction of new sports is cultural enrichment. Competitive chair-tossing will be an Olympic event one day.

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#27  Edited By SOedipus
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It's pretty sad that people are quick to blame the United States and Europe but won't say anything about all of the other countries in the Middle East who refuse to take any refugees. They can't even clean up their own backyard. Assimilation has gone very well in Europe so let's just let everyone in, right? Nobody stops to think about who's paying for all of this. "Let's open our arms and welcome everyone in." It's kind of hard when there are those who refuse to integrate into the country they went to. I don't mean stop speaking your native language and stop practicing your faith. But respect the laws and values of the country you're going to. I'm not saying all of them are doing this, but there's a lot. And if anyone dares criticize the notion of letting everyone in is deemed a racist or a bigot. How about stop and actually think about it logically? Not with your feelings. I'm all for peace and prosperity for every single individual on this planet. Unfortunately, life isn't like that and some cultures simply don't mix well, not yet anyways.

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#28 Stesilaus
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@lamprey263 said:

And, just so everyone else knows it's a Neo-Nazi video, go to the video comments and CTRL+F "Jew" and you'll see just who this video is for.

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:-P

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@lamprey263 said:

And, just so everyone else knows it's a Neo-Nazi video, go to the video comments and CTRL+F "Jew" and you'll see just who this video is for.

This video focuses heavily on the negative sides of this mass immigration. Yes there are those among them that feel they are entitled to a life in luxury just because they managed to get into Europe.

But they are not all like that... Also for European politicians it is far safer for their political career to say that we will help them here (in their country), than saying that it would be smarter to help the Syrian refugees in Syria itself or the bordering countries.

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#30 SOedipus
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If anyone is interested I recommend watching this discussion. It gets to the refugee crisis, specifically, at 8:00min, so it's only like 13 minutes.

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@SOedipus said:

It's pretty sad that people are quick to blame the United States and Europe but won't say anything about all of the other countries in the Middle East who refuse to take any refugees. They can't even clean up their own backyard. Assimilation has gone very well in Europe so let's just let everyone in, right? Nobody stops to think about who's paying for all of this. "Let's open our arms and welcome everyone in." It's kind of hard when there are those who refuse to integrate into the country they went to. I don't mean stop speaking your native language and stop practicing your faith. But respect the laws and values of the country you're going to. I'm not saying all of them are doing this, but there's a lot. And if anyone dares criticize the notion of letting everyone in is deemed a racist or a bigot. How about stop and actually think about it logically? Not with your feelings. I'm all for peace and prosperity for every single individual on this planet. Unfortunately, life isn't like that and some cultures simply don't mix well, not yet anyways.

As far as blaming the U.S is concerned, I'll continue blaming it for the atrocities it committed until justice is served. That's just and moral. As for Europe and the problem it's facing, I sympathize, but I don't know what solution it has. Europe needs immigration, but certainly not in that fashion. I place the burden of assimilation on both the immigrants and their host societies, as both stand to benefit from this scheme. They are countries that made immigration work, and others that failed in that respect. This demonstrates that, contrary to what fascist wing nuts parade all over the world, there's no inherent incompatibility between Islam/Muslims and the rest of the world.

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@SOedipus said:

Nobody stops to think about who's paying for all of this. "Let's open our arms and welcome everyone in." It's kind of hard when there are those who refuse to integrate into the country they went to. I don't mean stop speaking your native language and stop practicing your faith.

According to lead economists. Immigration has somewhat improved the well being of our citizens. Not surprising of course, since they fill in the gaps left by depopulation and provides us with workforce that has already gone through the education route. A healthy birth rate birht rate is at 2.1 and where I live the birth rate is at 1.9. And it isnt just my european country that has a petty birth rate. I may not be necessarily overly happy about current immigration policies, but they are a lesser evil.

Of course... I am not saying immigration is entirely good either. A good balance would be key. Should their ideologies overwhelm ours, they could undermine the values that brought our civilization success.

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@lamprey263 said:

@anon: Nothing? That's what I thought, go back to jerking off to your copy of Mein Kampf if the pages aren't glued together with your semen. Take @SOedipus with you can shoot the shit about whether you hate Jews or Muslims more.

And, just so everyone else knows it's a Neo-Nazi video, go to the video comments and CTRL+F "Jew" and you'll see just who this video is for.

That seems over the top and unfair.

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#34 JimB
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@GazaAli: What atrocities did the US commit?

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@JimB: lol

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#36  Edited By sayyy-gaa
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@GazaAli said:
@Gaming-Planet said:
@GazaAli said:
@gamerguru100 said:

Man, Europe is gonna get "culturally enriched" up the ass. Karma, I guess.

lol you're one to talk about karma

oh the irony

Karma for destabilizing the middle east for bankster interests, amirite?

I'm sure he's referring to colonialist Europe, which is ironic considering American culpability in what's happening right now. I'll go as far as saying what the U.S did to the Middle East over the course of the past two decades surpasses the entirety of colonialist Europe's legacy.

I admit that I am not always good at detecting sarcasm...so I'm not sure if you are serious?

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#37  Edited By iloveatlus
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@anon said:
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that video footage at 5:19 minutes did not happen in Europe, it happen in USA

http://www.ky3.com/news/local/6-are-charged-for-downtown-assault-of-man-woman-last-august/21048998_31890874

did the video creator also took footage from Baltimore riot and added it to his propaganda video?

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@GazaAli:

Way to spin it around, you just can't stand anybody but the U.S. getting blamed for anything. Obvious bias.

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@sayyy-gaa said:
@GazaAli said:

I'm sure he's referring to colonialist Europe, which is ironic considering American culpability in what's happening right now. I'll go as far as saying what the U.S did to the Middle East over the course of the past two decades surpasses the entirety of colonialist Europe's legacy.

I admit that I am not always good at detecting sarcasm...so I'm not sure if you are serious?

He's correct though. British empire no longer stands so we get to see all shades of its past-self. America still stands so we, or rather you, are only shown the better shades of it. Depends on who you've been, who you are and who you plan to be, really.

At least the Colonialist era didn't leave us with proxy wars and oil-scuffles...

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Sweden calls on army to help manage refugee crisis

Sweden’s army is to help manage the fallout from the country’s refugee crisis, with the civilian administration struggling to cope with an unprecedented surge in arrivals and a top official claiming there is no room left, in the short-term, for migrants reaching Swedish shores.

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Sweden is bearing a disproportional burden of the European refugee crisis, due in part to its pledge in 2013 to provide permanent residency to almost any Syrian who reached Swedish soil. Of the roughly 800,000 people to have arrived in Europe by sea this year, at least one in seven have ended up in Sweden, even though the country accounts for just one in 50 EU citizens. So far in 2015, more than 120,000 people have applied for asylum in Sweden.

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This struggle to provide something as basic as accommodation has led to fears about Sweden’s ability to handle more complex refugee needs, such as education and healthcare. “How will they manage doctors and schools, and how will [refugees] learn Swedish?” asked Enar Bostedt, one of Sweden’s most experienced asylum lawyers. “That’s totally another issue that no one has had time to think about yet.”

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@Master_Live: Sweden needs to fix their current immigration issue before they get another 120 000 of them. Why on earth they came with that pledge is beyond me.

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More and more right wing nativist drivel. They're not hordes. They're men, women, and children, rich, poor, and middle-class, whose lives have been uprooted because of extremism and inept and tyrannical governments. They want a better life and to escape the madness. I suggest people to read up on the voyage of the St. Louis, and how we refused entry to a ship containing hundreds of Jews escaping Nazi Germany.

Honestly, this anti-refugee crap is getting ridiculous.

@JimB said:

@GazaAli: What atrocities did the US commit?

You're right, the United States has never committed any war crimes. Here's some proof: LINK

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@JimB said:

@GazaAli: What atrocities did the US commit?

Overthrew tyrants and disrupted the status quo in middle east. Apparently ali g here is of the opinion that his people need to be kept on the end of a short leash.

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#44  Edited By fenriz275
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This is what happens when you get rid of dictators that were keeping a lid on things without a backup plan. Sometimes not having a tyrant in charge is worse than the alternative.

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#47 JimB
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@drunk_pi: We were not talking about war crimes and the last place I would go for information is Wikipedia.

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#49  Edited By Ant_17
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I'm really glad that's what the biggest problem people see from this, not the fact the boarders of Turkey are under attack and i'm just 20min boat ride from it/Rhodes Island/.

I don't care if they try to push muslim down my throat, just have some manners and respect for other people.

If any European has a problem with this, my solution is to buy out the Greek ferrie company and don't let refugees from my island board it, cause they hope on from my island to Athens.

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@JimB said:

@GazaAli: What atrocities did the US commit?

Perhapes Jim you were in a coma or weren't born during the time period.. But you might want to read up on Cold War policy the United States was involved in between 1950s to 1989.... Don't skip the beginning part, it includes the US spreading freedom in Iran by constructing a coup and ousting the democratically elected president of Iran and putting in a brutal dictator in power.. Which tortured and oppressed the people in the country for decades, with the US's full support.. Don't miss out on South America either, your favorite president Reagan, supported some dandy regimes down there as well...