Israel...... :s

Wtf is up with Israel? Anyone watching the news? Just in case you aren't keeping up to date with the latest world news, here is a LINK. Seriously, I can't understand why other nations don't complain. Everytime there is an attack on Israel citizens, the world community goes all up in arms and you hear wolrd leaders condeming Palestinian terrorists and what not. Then Israel goes and kills hundreds of civilians and its all good? The sick thing is people go on about how Palestinians are terrorists but im willing to bet anything that Israelis have killed more civilians than Palestinians :? Israel is the definition of a terrorist government, yet the world (especially the US) continues to give it full support.

And before you get on me about my comments about calling Israel a terrorist government, what else would you call a government that constantly targets civilians in its attacks. Maybe if this happened once or twice, I would buy that its accidental, but when many civilians die whenever there is an Israeli led attack into Palestinian territory, it stops being an accident and become deliberate. And lets not forget the fact that they continually block off critical supplies to the Palestinian residents in Gaza. For a group of people who suffered such mistreatment at the hands of Nazis, they seem to have no problem mistreating other people too :? And before you go on about terrorist attacks in Israel, remember that collective punishment is illegal according to the Geneva Conventions.

the palestinian aggressors that are launching missile and mortar attacks on israeli soil, are launching from heavily populated areas, fully knowledgable of the fact that the israelis are hesistant of causing civilian casualties when returning fire, since it gets on the global front page everytime it happens.

This is a tactic which the palestinian practice with great eager, and reading what you wrote, obviously with great success.

the palestinian aggressors that are launching missile and mortar attacks on israeli soil, are launching from heavily populated areas, fully knowledgable of the fact that the israelis are hesistant of causing civilian casualties when returning fire, since it gets on the global front page everytime it happens.

This is a tactic which the palestinian practice with great eager, and reading what you wrote, obviously with great success.

BiancaDK

oh come on, be reasonable.

Things are NEVER as black and white as they are portrayed to be in the public forum.

The israelis have done some things which some people regard as "bad/evil", and the palestinian have done some things which some people regard as "bad/evil".

With the massive spin put in by populist politicians, how can you truly sit there and pass judgement on the israelis with such ease?

oh come on, be reasonable.

Things are NEVER as black and white as they are portrayed to be in the public forum.

The israelis have done some things which some people regard as "bad/evil", and the palestinian have done some things which some people regard as "bad/evil".

With the massive spin put in by populist politicians, how can you truly sit there and pass judgement on the israelis with such ease?

BiancaDK

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

oh come on, be reasonable.

Things are NEVER as black and white as they are portrayed to be in the public forum.

The israelis have done some things which some people regard as "bad/evil", and the palestinian have done some things which some people regard as "bad/evil".

With the massive spin put in by populist politicians, how can you truly sit there and pass judgement on the israelis with such ease?

II_Seraphim_II

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=459158

i've seen this in the net. take a look at the post of zhongda regarding casualties while in Palestinan occupation.

If Israel was removed Islamic extremists would still continue their rampage.

That's why they're extremists.

First Discovery, this entire post is for you :@!!!

I hope your being sarcastic, because that is a clear stupid and idiotic stereotype.

The Israeli Gov't are heartless cowards and so are the zionists backing it, they deserved what they had done to them at the holocaust - Now you see how much offence that caused you/anyone.

So please refrain from infuriating people's beliefs. This is a topic of opinion vs opinion, so there is never going to be an answer, just a clear cut consensus feeling.

My Opinion: Israeli Gov't is ALL to blame, not the people of Israel. Vice versa for Palestine, however I agree the USA just adding insult to injury by giving free military hardware. But you never know, they did the same thing to the Afghans, gave 'em weapons, now look at 'em. :D.

Wasalaam.

If Israel was removed Islamic extremists would still continue their rampage.

That's why they're extremists.

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

If Israel was removed Islamic extremists would still continue their rampage.

That's why they're extremists.

freshgman

[QUOTE="freshgman"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

If Israel was removed Islamic extremists would still continue their rampage.

That's why they're extremists.

DigitalExile

First Discovery, this entire post is for you :@!!!

I hope your being sarcastic, because that is a clear stupid and idiotic stereotype.

The Israeli Gov't are heartless cowards and so are the zionists backing it, they deserved what they had done to them at the holocaust - Now you see how much offence that caused you/anyone.

So please refrain from infuriating people's beliefs. This is a topic of opinion vs opinion, so there is never going to be an answer, just a clear cut consensus feeling.

My Opinion: Israeli Gov't is ALL to blame, not the people of Israel. Vice versa for Palestine, however I agree the USA just adding insult to injury by giving free military hardware. But you never know, they did the same thing to the Afghans, gave 'em weapons, now look at 'em. :D.

Wasalaam.

sadass

First Discovery, this entire post is for you :@!!!

I hope your being sarcastic, because that is a clear stupid and idiotic stereotype.

The Israeli Gov't are heartless cowards and so are the zionists backing it, they deserved what they had done to them at the holocaust - Now you see how much offence that caused you/anyone.

So please refrain from infuriating people's beliefs. This is a topic of opinion vs opinion, so there is never going to be an answer, just a clear cut consensus feeling.

My Opinion: Israeli Gov't is ALL to blame, not the people of Israel. Vice versa for Palestine, however I agree the USA just adding insult to injury by giving free military hardware. But you never know, they did the same thing to the Afghans, gave 'em weapons, now look at 'em. :D.

Wasalaam.

sadass

as long as your an "ally" of the US you can do whatever you wantfreshgman

Like I said before, the only thing that Israel is afraid of, is peace. Why? It's quite logical. If there is harmony between the palestinians and settlers, they will have as much as many right as the palestinians in tems of land.

But unfortunatley, most Israeli SOLDIERS are braver than the 22 arab leaders COMBINED.

Like I said before, the only thing that Israel is afraid of, is peace. Why? It's quite logical. If there is harmony between the palestinians and settlers, they will have as much as many right as the palestinians in tems of land.

But unfortunatley, most Israeli SOLDIERS are braver than the 22 arab leaders COMBINED.

ghoklebutter

Arab leaders, they are allied with America, they only show they are anti-Israeli so their people trust them, America democracy in the region, heres what i think of that = :lol:

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

Like I said before, the only thing that Israel is afraid of, is peace. Why? It's quite logical. If there is harmony between the palestinians and settlers, they will have as much as many right as the palestinians in tems of land.

But unfortunatley, most Israeli SOLDIERS are braver than the 22 arab leaders COMBINED.

FirstDiscovery

Arab leaders, they are allied with America, they only show they are anti-Israeli so their people trust them, America democracy in the region, heres what i think of that = :lol:

I actually meant the NEW SETTLERS, not the palestinian jews/christians/muslims.

Your stupied thread has made me log in even tho i quit ,What is up with israel ??? , the falastins have been BOMBING us for over 8 years ,they bomb Sderot everyday,so yes after 8 years we attack back you think we should do nothing ?,and dont say **** about my country you guys know nothing ,you have no idea what the falastins like .fake kid ,do something with your life instead of just sitting jerking off all day

and i know ill get moderated for this , because this forum is stupied : ) and the moderators think they're pro
#Peace

KisukexD

*facepalm*

They probably both have done bad things, but what is fact is fact: it was wrong to kick millions of Christians, Muslims, and Jews out of their homes.

YOU have no idea what you are talking about sir, and it's not a country, it's a state. Good God. :|

YOU have no idea what you are talking about sir, and it's not a country, it's a state. Good God. :|

ghoklebutter

Israel is a country though:?

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

YOU have no idea what you are talking about sir, and it's not a country, it's a state. Good God. :|

-Sun_Tzu-

Israel is a country though:?

I guess it is now, because sooner or later, the Palestinians will be out of Israel for good.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

YOU have no idea what you are talking about sir, and it's not a country, it's a state. Good God. :|

ghoklebutter

Israel is a country though:?

I guess it is now, because sooner or later, the Palestinians will be out of Israel for good.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

Israel is a country though:?

-Sun_Tzu-

I guess it is now, because sooner or later, the Palestinians will be out of Israel for good.

If that is true, then every state in the US is a country...?

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

I guess it is now, because sooner or later, the Palestinians will be out of Israel for good.

ghoklebutter

If that is true, then every state in the US is a country...?

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] It has nothing to do with the Palestinians being in Israel. There is no difference between the term "state" and "country".-Sun_Tzu-

If that is true, then every state in the US is a country...?

I think I was confusing "Jewish State" and "Israel" a bit. Thanks for the clarification though. :P

This entire thread is a big pile of horse crap.

WTF is wrong with Israel?

I'll tell you what - absolutely nothing.

Two days after the end of the ceasefire, more than 50 rockets were launched into Israel from Gaza.

Such a situation is unacceptable - the Palestinians have been warned, repeatedly, by our highest-ranking officials, that if they won't cut the crap, they'll be facing a clusterf*** of epic proportions.

So here they are, facing the direct consequences of their own actions, and you're wondering what's wrong with Israel?

Also - hunderds of civilians?

You have some nerve to categorise all the reported dead - ALL the 155 0f them - as civilians.

Personally, I'd like to hear about your method of distinguishing between them and determining that ALL of them are civilians, given that absolutely NO such indications were given by ANY news network, as well as the fact that the majority of the targets hit in Gaza were Hamas infrastructure, such as weapon storages and training camps.

This entire thread is a big pile of horse crap.

WTF is wrong with Israel?

I'll tell you what - absolutely nothing.

Two days after the end of the ceasefire, more than 50 rockets were launched into Israel from Gaza.

Such a situation is unacceptable - the Palestinians have been warned, repeatedly, by our highest-ranking officials, that if they won't cut the crap, they'll be facing a clusterf*** of epic proportions.

So here they are, facing the direct consequences of their own actions, and you're wondering what's wrong with Israel?

Also - hunderds of civilians?

You have some nerve to categorise all the reported dead - ALL the 155 0f them - as civilians.

Personally, I'd like to hear about your method of distinguishing between them and determining that ALL of them are civilians, given that absolutely NO such indications were given by ANY news network, as well as the fact that the majority of the targets hit in Gaza were Hamas infrastructure, such as weapon storages and training camps.

Zyamaman

You must be quite ignorant to say that there is nothing wrong with Israel...

This is our land and we shall take it back .how can you defend israel ?! just because somebody told you that they were good doesn't mean its true do you know them personally today 140 civilians died and more than 200 injuries and they this is just the start. They say that israel is under attack but wait almost everyday israelis get to take lands which were once ours how do you think i came to lebanon,thats because the israelis came with their promised land mambo jambo and started stealing our land whether we like it or not i am not saying the jews are bad people, just the israelis, Islam told us to respect other religions and only to fight when you are being fought and this is what we do everyday there is opression and death in our land while you are the ones under attack and thats not all i would like to thank egypt and abou mazin (palestinien president) for helping in stopping the masscre in gaza oh wait they didn't do anything i would like to go one on one with every israeli in the world and i would break their necks one by one oh and lets not forget the imaginary terrorism which recently came instead of nazism who supposidly wiped out the israelis back in the 40s which was proved wrong by alot of people but wait since they are against the idea of the holcust then they are nazis and are trialed for it please for the ones who think they know about it from cnn and all those channels don't talk

sorry for the bad language and spelling errors, i was outraged update 155 civilians dead

raj3een ya falasteen!!

and if gamespot deletes this post then they are the worst gaming website on the web :P

firo999

Delete your other post.

But unfortunatley, most Israeli SOLDIERS are braver than the 22 arab leaders COMBINED.

ghoklebutter

SO hezzbollah : 1 israel : 0

In this dreadful cycle of violence, It's kinda of hard to wholly condemn one side whilst supporting the other. The palestinians use the israeli air strikes as justification for launching rockets, and the israeli's use the rockets for justification for their strikes. One thing that I do know is that neither side should sit idly while their people suffer/die. The right thing would be to take up action, but just what kind of action? I'm afraid to say, but in situations like this, the process is just going to keep on repeating itself until one side decides to put a stop to it, for good. I'm sorry but in situations like this, I can't help but say, might makes right.

as well as the fact that the majority of the targets hit in Gaza were Hamas infrastructure, such as weapon storages and training camps.

Zyamaman

The Hamas military wing issueda statement saying it had fired a rocket toward the Israeli city of Askelon, and Israeli sources confirmed one Israeli was killed and two hurt when the rocket made a direct hit on a house.

eye for an eye, yup yup yup.

[QUOTE="Zyamaman"]

This entire thread is a big pile of horse crap.

WTF is wrong with Israel?

I'll tell you what - absolutely nothing.

Two days after the end of the ceasefire, more than 50 rockets were launched into Israel from Gaza.

Such a situation is unacceptable - the Palestinians have been warned, repeatedly, by our highest-ranking officials, that if they won't cut the crap, they'll be facing a clusterf*** of epic proportions.

So here they are, facing the direct consequences of their own actions, and you're wondering what's wrong with Israel?

Also - hunderds of civilians?

You have some nerve to categorise all the reported dead - ALL the 155 0f them - as civilians.

Personally, I'd like to hear about your method of distinguishing between them and determining that ALL of them are civilians, given that absolutely NO such indications were given by ANY news network, as well as the fact that the majority of the targets hit in Gaza were Hamas infrastructure, such as weapon storages and training camps.

ghoklebutter

You must be quite ignorant to say that there is nothing wrong with Israel...

No, you are the ignoramus here - misinterpreting my enitre point is a logical fallacy.

It's blatantly clear that I'm not saying that there's NOTHING wrong with Israel, I'm just saying that tthis attack is justified, and very much predictable, too.

I see no proof in that. also,

Hewkii

Too early for that right now (you need to wai till the end of the operation), but it was reported on the Israeli media that the main targets of this attack were Hamas infrastructure and compounds.

The Hamas military wing issueda statement saying it had fired a rocket toward the Israeli city of Askelon, and Israeli sources confirmed one Israeli was killed and two hurt when the rocket made a direct hit on a house.Hewkii

eye for an eye, yup yup yup.

Do you realize that it's a military operation, NOT a tag game?

In this dreadful cycle of violence, It's kinda of hard to wholly condemn one side whilst supporting the other.

Siofen

That's why I just condemn both sides.

Honestly I don't anyone will put a stop to it. This pointless conflict will go on. Even as everyone who even remembered the original reasons are laid to rest. The torch will pass down to generations whom it doesn't even concern.

Do you realize that it's a military operation, NOT a tag game?

Zyamaman

Like I said before, the only thing that Israel is afraid of, is peace. Why? It's quite logical. If there is harmony between the palestinians and settlers, they will have as much as many right as the palestinians in tems of land.

But unfortunatley, most Israeli SOLDIERS are braver than the 22 arab leaders COMBINED.

ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="Siofen"]

In this dreadful cycle of violence, It's kinda of hard to wholly condemn one side whilst supporting the other.

ThePlothole

That's why I just condemn both sides.

Honestly I don't anyone will put a stop to it. This pointless conflict will go on. Even as everyone who even remembered the original reasons are laid to rest. The torch will pass down to generations whom it doesn't even concern.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

Like I said before, the only thing that Israel is afraid of, is peace. Why? It's quite logical. If there is harmony between the palestinians and settlers, they will have as much as many right as the palestinians in tems of land.

But unfortunatley, most Israeli SOLDIERS are braver than the 22 arab leaders COMBINED.

redmen12

:|

Way to misinterpret my post.

I meant that the arab LEADERS are cowardly. And a lot of arabs are the same when it comes to these things.

[QUOTE="redmen12"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

Like I said before, the only thing that Israel is afraid of, is peace. Why? It's quite logical. If there is harmony between the palestinians and settlers, they will have as much as many right as the palestinians in tems of land.

But unfortunatley, most Israeli SOLDIERS are braver than the 22 arab leaders COMBINED.

ghoklebutter

:|

Way to misinterpret my post.

I meant that the arab LEADERS are cowardly. And a lot of arabs are the same when it comes to these things.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="redmen12"] Oh so its ok to be racist against arabs but jews are off limits?redmen12

:|

Way to misinterpret my post.

I meant that the arab LEADERS are cowardly. And a lot of arabs are the same when it comes to these things.

Sometimes it's best to stop caring what the rest of the world thinks, and do what you feel is right. Better to die a hero, to die for a cause, than to live life being a coward.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="redmen12"] Oh so its ok to be racist against arabs but jews are off limits?redmen12

:|

Way to misinterpret my post.

I meant that the arab LEADERS are cowardly. And a lot of arabs are the same when it comes to these things.

In theory, it is a clever idea but if muslims were united, the arab leaders would probably do something about it.

[QUOTE="redmen12"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

:|

Way to misinterpret my post.

I meant that the arab LEADERS are cowardly. And a lot of arabs are the same when it comes to these things.

Choga

Sometimes it's best to stop caring what the rest of the world thinks, and do what you feel is right. Better to die a hero, to die for a cause, than to live life being a coward.

if any other country done something like thing there would an international outcry but for some reason israel is special.ffaf666

This "some reason" is the fact that Israel has justification behind it's actions - it was subjected to a constant rocket barrage from Gaza, which has intensified by orders of magnitude in the last few days, and it has every right to defend it's citizens from attacks.

[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="redmen12"] Arab leaders are dead scared to speak out or else the US will attack them. Arab leaders in turn threaten their people so that they do not speak out against America. Cowardly, maybe, but its smart. It would be absolutly irresponsible for Arab leaders to speak out against Israel and allow their people to be attacked.redmen12

Sometimes it's best to stop caring what the rest of the world thinks, and do what you feel is right. Better to die a hero, to die for a cause, than to live life being a coward.

Good for them.