Is this immoral, and is it or should it be a crime?

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#51 pie-junior
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Wouldn't that fall under self defense?

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Legally speaking, no.

IIRC It depends where. in some places the term duress is limited to the contractual abolishment doctrine, and necessity is the arching defense over acts of 'duress'. but I could be off. I haven't dealt in this stuff for a long time.
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#52 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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I'm not sure what religion has to do with this.

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#53 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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It isn't a crime because the person was forced to do it under duress. There is an entire section of law devoted just to this type of thing.

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#54 BluRayHiDef
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How about the following? The hostage who is forced to kill another has to choose who they'll kill. Does that change anything?

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#55 dave123321
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What made you think of this?
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#56 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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What made you think of this?dave123321
He's planning to kidnap a few people and make them kill each other

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#57 MetalDogGear
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It is immoral

It's immoral because you decided whose life was more valuable, yours.

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#58 BluRayHiDef
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What made you think of this?dave123321
There is a darkness inside of me, from which stems thoughts of malice, malevolence, and madness. The darkness wants to come out, and consume everything around me. I don't think I can hold to it much longer. Someone, help me!

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#59 MetalDogGear
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]What made you think of this?BluRayHiDef

There is a darkness inside of me, from which stems thoughts of malice, malevolence, and madness. The darkness wants to come out, and consume everything around me. I don't think I can hold it in much longer. Someone, help me!

Dude, just go jerk off or something.
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#60 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]What made you think of this?MetalDogGear

There is a darkness inside of me, from which stems thoughts of malice, malevolence, and madness. The darkness wants to come out, and consume everything around me. I don't think I can hold it in much longer. Someone, help me!

Dude, just go jerk off or something.

I did that this morning, as I do every morning.

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#61 dave123321
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[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"] There is a darkness inside of me, from which stems thoughts of malice, malevolence, and madness. The darkness wants to come out, and consume everything around me. I don't think I can hold it in much longer. Someone, help me!

BluRayHiDef

Dude, just go jerk off or something.

I did that this morning, as I do every morning.

What thoughts crossed your mind?
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#62 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"] Dude, just go jerk off or something.dave123321

I did that this morning, as I do every morning.

What thoughts crossed your mind?

  • "This feels good."
  • "This feels really good."
  • "I'm coming."
  • "I came."
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#63 MetalDogGear
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"] I did that this morning, as I do every morning.

BluRayHiDef

What thoughts crossed your mind?

  • "This feels good."
  • "This feels really good."
  • "I'm coming."
  • "I came."

No rainbowdash Or fluttershy?
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#64 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"] What thoughts crossed your mind?MetalDogGear

  • "This feels good."
  • "This feels really good."
  • "I'm coming."
  • "I came."

No rainbowdash Or fluttershy?

Didn't need to imagine anything to pleasure myself, because I was watching prons. Some chick, whose name I don't know, blowing someone through a glory hole.

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#65 dave123321
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[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

  • "This feels good."
  • "This feels really good."
  • "I'm coming."
  • "I came."

BluRayHiDef

No rainbowdash Or fluttershy?

Didn't need to imagine anything to pleasure myself, because I was watching prons. Some chick, whose name I don't know, blowing someone through a glory hole.

glorious
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#66 coolbeans90
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Probably legal. As for the ethics, it seems to be a rather dark shade of grey to me. I do not think I'd be able to ever rest easily at night after pulling the trigger.

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#67 Iceozo
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Legally, it's under duress so the hostage cannot be charged. As for the moral aspect, eh. I understand what had to be done had to be done.